Nearly there for Medicinal Cannabis Nugs, just waiting for a local supply !

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JimmyH

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#2458857 10-Apr-2020 12:14

Rikkitic:

I am in favour of legalisation across the board, recreational, medicinal, whatever, but at the very least, medicinal. Too many people have listened to reefer madness nonsense over the years and have had their critical faculties blunted by this hysterical abolitionist propaganda pushed by the US alcohol lobby. Innumerable people have suffered because of this emotion-based idiocy.

No, cannabis is not harmless. Any substance has the potential to cause harm when abused. But the harm caused by criminalisation is many times worse.

I think this has been covered in earlier threads. Personally I don't use the stuff, never have and I doubt I ever will. But I will be voting Yes for pretty much these reasons.

The other reason is my offspring. I hope they never use it when they are old enough for it to be possible, and I will certainly tell them firmly that they shouldn't. But if they do, I would rather they get actual weed from a licensed and regulated seller. Not from their local gang house where they will be offered who knows what from someones backyard chemistry set and told it's weed, as well as some meth or firearms they want them. And possibly robbed and beaten up in the process.

Legalisation will be pretty much neutral for users, as weed is fairly readily and affordably available for anyone who wants it. But it will be a calamity for the gangs (who will lose a lot of their income), and also enable justice resources to be focused on things that matter far more. Thus, I'm in favour.

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#2458872 10-Apr-2020 12:37

In my opinion, this is a good argument FOR

JimmyH:

The other reason is my offspring. I hope they never use it when they are old enough for it to be possible, and I will certainly tell them firmly that they shouldn't. But if they do, I would rather they get actual weed from a licensed and regulated seller. Not from their local gang house where they will be offered who knows what from someones backyard chemistry set and told it's weed, as well as some meth or firearms they want them.

Though I'd suggest based on this argument there are drugs where it's much more common to mix dangerous things in (Including vaping syrups) than weed.

And this is a good argument for AGAINST:

Numpy

I can only see our road death toll getting worse when this is legalized, not better. Is that not a big disadvantage to society as a whole? Having had a close relative killed by a drunk/drugged while this is illegal, I can only imagine the rate of drugged drivers to increase when/if legalized.

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#2458896 10-Apr-2020 13:13

networkn:

And this is a good argument for AGAINST:

Numpy

I can only see our road death toll getting worse when this is legalized, not better. Is that not a big disadvantage to society as a whole? Having had a close relative killed by a drunk/drugged while this is illegal, I can only imagine the rate of drugged drivers to increase when/if legalized.

I honestly don't see the logic of this. Driving impaired is already illegal. Idiots who drive drugged are already breaking the law whether the drug is legalised or not. Just look at alcohol. There are already measures to test for impairment and cannabis roadside tests will improve. There is also the old walk a straight line recite Peter's pickled peppers without giggling test. Most cops have the wisdom of experience and can make these kinds of judgement calls. Legalising cannabis is unlikely to improve road safety, but I don't see how it will make things worse. Are there studies from those parts of the world where cannabis has already been legalised? It has been effectively decriminalised in The Netherlands for many years and I am not aware of any road safety issues arising from this. Most people who smoke don't want to jump in a car and go for a drive. They want to sit in a corner and listen to the music playing in their head.

@Numpy: I'm sorry for your loss. That must be a horrible thing to experience. There will always be individual tragedies like this. But I genuinely believe that legalising cannabis won't make this worse. There is at least a possibility that it might actually make it better by taking it out of the criminal sphere.

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#2458902 10-Apr-2020 13:24

Taking medical cannabis under the guidance of a GP or other suitably qualified professional should be no more dangerous than taking aspirin. I am currently taking drugs that are orders of magnitude riskier than cannabis.
My understanding is that medical cannabis does not contain THC and poses minimal risk for driving. Again I am prescribed drugs now that I don't feel safe walking let alone driving and that is why I voluntarily gave up driving and surrendered my license. Also I can't turn around to see beside or behind me which I thought was kind of important to be able to do.

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#2458920 10-Apr-2020 14:16

NumPy:

I'm sure you meant taxpayer subsidized? I don't think there is such a thing as government subsidized.

If you'd like to be a pedant, then sure. But anyone with a lick of mental acuity knew what I meant. And likewise, it's the govt that decides how to use taxes, not the taxpayer. The extent of our influence is voting.

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