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Technofreak
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  #2794027 12-Oct-2021 15:12
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Oblivian:

 

Sorry you were picking holes in the main thread that it wasn't clear for laymans. I figured you were still on the same route here.

 

Technically how it does that, You've answered your own question and it was described in the early phases of this thread.

 

(And outlined in the document that is signed off by the privacy commissioner linked in great detail.)

 

Pg 55 on.

 

It sends notifications to all, if it finds a match, you hear about it. If it doesn't find a match. You don't. But it won't get to anyone to even be able to be sent to others, without approval/the user uploading it.

 

As seen here (which most people won't read, because 'govt' even if it is more than 'it just does') https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-resources-and-tools/nz-covid-tracer-app/privacy-and-security-nz-covid-tracer 

 

It's also outlined in the how guide of the app itself. not that any of those people would believe it any more anyway. Once in the mindset. They're not easily swayed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not picking holes at all. For most of us on here we have a pretty good handle on the the way technology works. That's doesn't apply the general population. It's not just with the likes of the Covid app, a lot of "Explainers" do a very poor job of explaining to the "man in the street" how something works. The explanation is written by someone with a very good understanding of the app or device and that understanding very often isn't dumbed down to a layman's level.





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  #2794279 12-Oct-2021 21:14
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If it had gone under the radar. Here is covid certificate/passport PWA phase one. Separate from app mentioned here. But of interest to those following

https://app.covid19.health.nz/

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  #2794287 12-Oct-2021 21:36
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Thanks! That was relatively painless to setup! Much better than when the covid 19 tracer app first dropped.



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Oblivian: If it had gone under the radar. Here is covid certificate/passport PWA phase one. Separate from app mentioned here. But of interest to those following

https://app.covid19.health.nz/

 

Wow really slick and easy to use. Obviously a lot of work has gone into this. Well done MOH et al.


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  #2795072 14-Oct-2021 11:46
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Oblivian: If it had gone under the radar. Here is covid certificate/passport PWA phase one. Separate from app mentioned here. But of interest to those following

https://app.covid19.health.nz/

 

I signed into this soon after the stand-up finished on the day they announced it going live.  Very snappy to load etc... despite the suggestion it was being slammed by heavy traffic having just been announced.  Admittedly I used my RealMe login so bypassed the registration process.

 

Thought it was a good idea for the phased launch of the app so the curious (and others like me haha) could register and get that out of the way.  Can just imagine if the vaccine passport/certificate feature went live at the same time it might not have been as pretty.


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  #2795160 14-Oct-2021 13:33
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Groucho:

 

Oblivian: If it had gone under the radar. Here is covid certificate/passport PWA phase one. Separate from app mentioned here. But of interest to those following

https://app.covid19.health.nz/

 

I signed into this soon after the stand-up finished on the day they announced it going live.  Very snappy to load etc... despite the suggestion it was being slammed by heavy traffic having just been announced.  Admittedly I used my RealMe login so bypassed the registration process.

 

Thought it was a good idea for the phased launch of the app so the curious (and others like me haha) could register and get that out of the way.  Can just imagine if the vaccine passport/certificate feature went live at the same time it might not have been as pretty.

 

 

I've tried signing up a few times across different days, and I never get the email to verify.

 

Tried both stand-alone signup, and via RealMe, but nothing comes through.

 

I never see anything on the website to say there is an issue, and nothing into my email, including into spam folders.

 

 

 

Not too worried about it, nor particularly surprised.  I have the card they gave me, and a letter from the MoH from a few months ago, but its not a good look.

 

 

 

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  #2795167 14-Oct-2021 13:48
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I signed in via RealMe and got the SMS verification code no problem -- I didn't get any email verifications for RealMe. Apparently I have not fully verified my RealMe identity yet but I was able to login using it anyway, and the My Health Account portal verified my identity using my passport details instead. I assume had my RealMe been fully verified they would just use the RealMe details instead. Also got both email and SMS verification codes for the My Health Account portal itself -- you can add email/SMS details to your My Health Account itself -- and both codes arrived within seconds. Pretty much the gold standard given other services I use see delays of minutes for SMS/email verification codes.

 

May be worth checking your Spam folder for an email from no-reply@identity.health.nz. Not sure what email RealMe uses for verifications. For SMS both RealMe and My Health Account seems to use commercial short code services so you'll get a SMS from a short code number (maybe shared with other service users so may be worth checking all messages from short code numbers).

 

Also make sure your phone number in RealMe is correct -- if you're signing in through RealMe and not getting their SMS verification codes that's a RealMe problem and nothing to do with the My Health Account service.

 

It does seem strange you are having trouble with both the direct login flow, as well as the RealMe login flow. I can assure you though the RealMe login flow works -- I've just tried it again just now and it signed in with no trouble, and no SMS verification this time presumably because I have already used it recently. The site is incredibly quick to load so I am sure there is no 'too much traffic' type issues.




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  #2795169 14-Oct-2021 13:49
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Since this thread is about the Covid tracer app shouldn't any discussion on the covid certificate/passport website be on a different thread. They are two distinctly different topics/functions.





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  #2795189 14-Oct-2021 14:10
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Technofreak:

 

Since this thread is about the Covid tracer app shouldn't any discussion on the covid certificate/passport website be on a different thread. They are two distinctly different topics/functions.

 

 

Done

 

https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=161&topicid=290002&page_no=1#2795186


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DS248:

 

Technofreak:

 

Since this thread is about the Covid tracer app shouldn't any discussion on the covid certificate/passport website be on a different thread. They are two distinctly different topics/functions.

 

 

Done

 

https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=161&topicid=290002&page_no=1#2795186

 

 

Thank you.  I guess I could have done that myself but currently that site has no value for me as I already have the Vaccination Confirmation Letter which as far as I can tell gives the same or more information.





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  #2795939 15-Oct-2021 14:58
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KiwiSurfer:

 

I signed in via RealMe and got the SMS verification code no problem -- I didn't get any email verifications for RealMe. Apparently I have not fully verified my RealMe identity yet but I was able to login using it anyway, and the My Health Account portal verified my identity using my passport details instead. I assume had my RealMe been fully verified they would just use the RealMe details instead. Also got both email and SMS verification codes for the My Health Account portal itself -- you can add email/SMS details to your My Health Account itself -- and both codes arrived within seconds. Pretty much the gold standard given other services I use see delays of minutes for SMS/email verification codes.

 

May be worth checking your Spam folder for an email from no-reply@identity.health.nz. Not sure what email RealMe uses for verifications. For SMS both RealMe and My Health Account seems to use commercial short code services so you'll get a SMS from a short code number (maybe shared with other service users so may be worth checking all messages from short code numbers).

 

Also make sure your phone number in RealMe is correct -- if you're signing in through RealMe and not getting their SMS verification codes that's a RealMe problem and nothing to do with the My Health Account service.

 

It does seem strange you are having trouble with both the direct login flow, as well as the RealMe login flow. I can assure you though the RealMe login flow works -- I've just tried it again just now and it signed in with no trouble, and no SMS verification this time presumably because I have already used it recently. The site is incredibly quick to load so I am sure there is no 'too much traffic' type issues.

 

 

 

 

I finally received the email - it took at least 24 hours to arrive, and that's assuming it was in response to my attempt to register yesterday, rather than my attempt on Wed (around 48 hours ago)!

 

It included a code that I needed to enter within five mins (presumably of requesting the email).

 

Clever :-)

 

 

 

Alan.


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  #2796058 15-Oct-2021 22:20
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V6.0.1 for iOS out now. Says it fixes the dashboard / iOS 15 issue.


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  #2797147 18-Oct-2021 15:18
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Been noticing lately that a lot of businesses are still using manual recording keeping in the form of an A4 piece of paper on a clip board. This is now contrary to regulations and has been for a while now. They should be using a ballot box system.

 

https://covid19.govt.nz/business-and-money/businesses/record-keeping-and-contact-tracing/

 

https://www.privacy.org.nz/publications/guidance-resources/guidance-on-mandatory-record-keeping-for-contact-tracing/

 

Time for the government bureaucracies to do a mass email and or snail mail information drop.

 

 





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FineWine:

 

Been noticing lately that a lot of businesses are still using manual recording keeping in the form of an A4 piece of paper on a clip board. This is now contrary to regulations and has been for a while now. They should be using a ballot box system.

 

Time for the government bureaucracies to do a mass email and or snail mail information drop.

 

 

And also to slip in a reminder that those businesses should also be monitoring and periodically emptying/storing contents of said ballot boxes.  I've seen a couple recently that have pieces of paper poking up from the top of the box because they're full and borderline overflowing.


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Groucho:

 

FineWine:

 

Been noticing lately that a lot of businesses are still using manual recording keeping in the form of an A4 piece of paper on a clip board. This is now contrary to regulations and has been for a while now. They should be using a ballot box system.

 

Time for the government bureaucracies to do a mass email and or snail mail information drop.

 

 

And also to slip in a reminder that those businesses should also be monitoring and periodically emptying/storing contents of said ballot boxes.  I've seen a couple recently that have pieces of paper poking up from the top of the box because they're full and borderline overflowing.

 

 

I bet most places have no process for dealing with the "ballot box" contents. They're just being compliant by having one at the door.

 

I wonder how many empty it each day or more often as necessary and then bag or box the contents and date those bags or boxes to allow easy retrieval of the information if it becomes necessary?





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