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  #2488823 21-May-2020 16:49
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concordnz: But they all watch the news in some shape or form.


Sadly you are increasingly mistaken.

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  #2488825 21-May-2020 16:51
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Yesterday I pushed v1.0.0 to my Android 6 handset (from a PC browser) as it said it supported Android v6

 

I see today there is a new version v1.0.2 and only supports Android 7 or better so now I cannot get updates unless I can get the apk?

 

Note my Huawei handset cannot be upgraded to v7 despite that being available overseas. The upgrade to my handset is not available in NZ and I have tried and failed many times to upgrade to v7 here

 

I have sent feedback to the email address in the app saying they should endeavour to support Android 6 esp. since large scale uptake is important to the success to any contact tracing app

 

 

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  #2488832 21-May-2020 17:02
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concordnz: But they all watch the news in some shape or form.


Sadly you are increasingly mistaken.


How do You suggest people & businesses get informed about this then?
(If they live in a box like you suggest.)

(FYI - I class 'media' in all its forms - print/TV/facebook/geekzone - all as 'media' & having a role/responsibility to play in pushing this out to people.)

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  #2488850 21-May-2020 17:18
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concordnz: 
How do You suggest people & businesses get informed about this then?
(If they live in a box like you suggest.)

(FYI - I class 'media' in all its forms - print/TV/facebook/geekzone - all as 'media' & having a role/responsibility to play in pushing this out to people.)

 

The responsibility for pushing information out lies with the ministry of health and the government.

 

Mainstream media has shown no reluctance to publishing information that is provided to them - quite the opposite. It's a cheap way for them to fill content. Equally they are not cheer leaders for the government. They also have a serious role in critiquing this deployment.

 

If you think facebook, or most overseas social media, cares about a New Zealands contact tracing app then you are mistaken. They will publish what they are paid to publish. The government has shown no hesitation in paying for advertising on social media previously during this crisis. 

 

The Ministry of health doesn't get all the credit and none of the criticism (nor should it be the other way around).


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  #2488852 21-May-2020 17:29
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concordnz: 

If you are complaining that it won't install on older devices - Blame Google/Apple - because they are the cause of this problem (longer validation process - / won't allow it)

 

 

 

It only works on ios 12 and newer s doesn't support iphone 5C and older, which many elderly for example still use as many older people don't regularly update their devices.  Doesn't Apple allow new apps to be installed on versions older? Most  apps seem to support ios 10 including banking apps

 

I saw someone post a tweet of a sign on an establishments door, that required anyone entering to scan the QR code, and if they didn't there was no entry.


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  #2488860 21-May-2020 18:09
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Fred99:

 

I went out for a sail today - yacht club had printed posters laminated with QR code but the app wouldn't recognise the code - came up with a "code not supported" message, a couple of other people with me from the club tell me "nah - don't worry about it - it doesn't work".  I guess it's probably because someone in the office stuffed up - but when an opt-in system fails like that, people will give up on the idea as a waste of time. 

 

 

Did it have a big ol striped border? If not, Go back tomorrow, scan it with a standard barcode AP. It's probably what BK have done.

 

Print QR with weblink to online questionnaire capture form. They get people to zap and give away details before entering. A lot have done this. If it doesn't have an associated logo to identify, it likely won't be associated with an automated logger with specific requirements (like the MBIE one)


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  #2488881 21-May-2020 19:06
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Since USA has ordered American firms including Google to not provide updates to Huawei it might be a long while before you can get any updates. 

 

 

 

xlinknz:

 

Yesterday I pushed v1.0.0 to my Android 6 handset (from a PC browser) as it said it supported Android v6

 

I see today there is a new version v1.0.2 and only supports Android 7 or better so now I cannot get updates unless I can get the apk?

 

Note my Huawei handset cannot be upgraded to v7 despite that being available overseas. The upgrade to my handset is not available in NZ and I have tried and failed many times to upgrade to v7 here

 

I have sent feedback to the email address in the app saying they should endeavour to support Android 6 esp. since large scale uptake is important to the success to any contact tracing app

 

 

 

 

 





Nokia 7 Plus
Nexus 6P 32Gb
Nexus 6 Phone
Nexus 5 Phone
Nexus 7 2013 Tablet
Samsung TAB A 8"
Samsung TAB A 10"

 

& many Windows laptops, Desktops etc

 

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  #2488886 21-May-2020 19:27
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mattwnz:

 

concordnz: 

If you are complaining that it won't install on older devices - Blame Google/Apple - because they are the cause of this problem (longer validation process - / won't allow it)

 

 

 

It only works on ios 12 and newer s doesn't support iphone 5C and older, which many elderly for example still use as many older people don't regularly update their devices.  Doesn't Apple allow new apps to be installed on versions older? Most  apps seem to support ios 10 including banking apps

 

I saw someone post a tweet of a sign on an establishments door, that required anyone entering to scan the QR code, and if they didn't there was no entry.

 

 

 

 

My parents wanted me to install it on their phones tonight, and they are using Marsh mellow and Lollipop which can' t be upgraded, so it doesn't look like they can install it. I wonder if there are stats on how many active devices are too old to support the OS versions it supports. I am a bit surprised it only supports down to Android 7 , or iOS 12,. as I am not sure what features older OS versions don't support. At least with apple, it could still support the 5S and 6 which are 5 + years old. But not the 5C, which is the same age as the 5S


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  #2488887 21-May-2020 19:34
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^^^^^^ sounding very like y2k to me. Certainly got us all to upgrade our desktops back then.....


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  #2488888 21-May-2020 19:37
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^^^^^^ sounding very like y2k to me. Certainly got us all to upgrade our desktops back then.....

 

 

 

 

LOL. Maybe they could use the helicopter payments to make sure everyone has a new device with it preinstalled.


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  #2488893 21-May-2020 19:51
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ronw:

 

Since USA has ordered American firms including Google to not provide updates to Huawei it might be a long while before you can get any updates. 

 

 

That is not the issue for me Android v7 is available for my handset just not in NZ, to install the non NZ ROM I'll have to unlock the bootloader which is preventing the non NZ rom

 

mattwnz:

 

My parents wanted me to install it on their phones tonight, and they are using Marsh mellow and Lollipop which can' t be upgraded, so it doesn't look like they can install it. I wonder if there are stats on how many active devices are too old to support the OS versions it supports. I am a bit surprised it only supports down to Android 7 , or iOS 12,. as I am not sure what features older OS versions don't support. At least with apple, it could still support the 5S and 6 which are 5 + years old. But not the 5C, which is the same age as the 5S

 

 

See above I agree really silly now allow install on Mashmellow (v6)

 

Does anyone know whether the app can be installed on rooted handsets?

 

 

 

 




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  #2488934 21-May-2020 20:53
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ronw:

 

Since USA has ordered American firms including Google to not provide updates to Huawei it might be a long while before you can get any updates. 

 

 

This is not correct. Existing handsets retain the licence they have. Also, the restrictions are in supplying Google's own frameworks (app, Google Play Store) and have nothing to do with the Android project itself, which is open source. However, OEMs may have their own policies regarding updates - most devices on Android One, for example, have two years of upgrades.

 

This pretty much means that any device that originally shipped with Android 6 or Android 7 might not even have updated OS anymore. 

 

I would be more worried about recent devices that run Android 8, Android 9 and Android 10 not receiving updates because either someone bought a parallel imported device from a cheap brand that doesn't invest in updates, or from a brand that's bad at delivering updates or even because telcos are in the middle between OEM and the user, having to "approve" updates.

 

Apple, on the other hand, has already begun delivering an update with the required API in place. Android users, in general, will have no such luck - if an update comes it will probably not be a timely one.





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  #2488952 21-May-2020 21:18
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xlinknz:

 

See above I agree really silly now allow install on Mashmellow (v6)

 

Does anyone know whether the app can be installed on rooted handsets?

 

 

Yep, installed fine for me. Though had an error or rather non starter in terms of it not doing anything when I pointed the app at a QR code.  That was v1, have not tried since the update.


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  #2488955 21-May-2020 21:30
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My iOS v1.0.1 (iPhone XSMax iOS 13.4.1) still couldn’t accept the local library QR code today, so had to do a manual ‘check in’ with the ladies at the table in the entrance instead, who also would t use my library card (which has all my contact details too!) instead 🤷‍♂️

*edit: just went to check the iOS version and was offered iOS 13.5 with the following (relevant to this topic) description:

iOS 13.5 speeds up access to the passcode field on devices with Face ID when you are wearing a face mask and introduces the Exposure Notification API to support COVID-19 contact tracing apps from public health authorities. This update also introduces an option to control automatic prominence of video tiles on Group FaceTime calls and includes bug fixes and other improvements.
Some features may not be available in all regions or on all Apple devices. For information on the security content of Apple software updates, please visit this website:
https://support.apple.com/kb/HT201222

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  #2488984 21-May-2020 22:50
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Mrs.Neb had to pick something up from the Bin Inn at the local mall, while she did that I did an informal survey of Covid19 tracing for the entire mall:

 

 

3 Rippl QR codes

 

2 MoH QR codes

 

Numerous pads with shared disease-transmission sticks to write on them

 

 

If this is our tracing system and there is an outbreak somewhere, we're screwed. 2 instances of the official MoH tracing mechanism in the entire mall, and no sign anyone was using them.

 

 

Oh, and when I tried to use one I had to click through about four screens of stuff before I got to scan the QR code. You have to be really persistent to take part in the tracing, I suspect most people would simply give up.

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