Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | ... | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22
3207 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Subscriber

  #2492812 27-May-2020 13:52
Send private message quote this post

Senecio:

 

However, in flicking back a few pages I noted that Donald Duck, Lady Gaga and Freddie Mercury have all eaten lunch in the Oporto Manukau in recent days!

 

 

I genuinely don't understand.

 

It's like the Americans refusing to wear face masks as an expression of their 1st amendment rights.

 

I hope not it doesn't come to this for them, but I wonder if Donald Duck, Lady Gaga and Freddie Mercury might have second thoughts at the point the ICU nurse straps the ventilator on?


309 posts

Ultimate Geek


  #2492822 27-May-2020 14:01
Send private message quote this post

dafman:

 

Senecio:

 

However, in flicking back a few pages I noted that Donald Duck, Lady Gaga and Freddie Mercury have all eaten lunch in the Oporto Manukau in recent days!

 

 

I genuinely don't understand.

 

It's like the Americans refusing to wear face masks as an expression of their 1st amendment rights.

 

I hope not it doesn't come to this for them, but I wonder if Donald Duck, Lady Gaga and Freddie Mercury might have second thoughts at the point the ICU nurse straps the ventilator on?

 

 

Charitable of you to assume Donald Duck, Lady Gaga and Freddie Mercury actually possess a brain to have second thoughts with...





Ant  Reformed geek | Referral links: Electric Kiwi  Sharesies  Stake


 
 
 
 


76 posts

Master Geek


  #2494362 29-May-2020 13:58
Send private message quote this post

This is interesting. Auckland Council have made the judgment call that the official government app and hence any other similar solutions like Rippl (which WCC and DCC are using), are not compliant with their statutory contact tracing requirements.

 

The council does not have access to the data held securely within the government’s app on our customer’s phones. So, if the council were required to carry out any contact tracing, it would not be able to use the information from the NZ COVID Tracer app. And for technical reasons, it is not possible to integrate the two systems.”

 

https://ourauckland.aucklandcouncil.govt.nz/articles/news/2020/05/welcome-back-we-ve-missed-you/


3894 posts

Uber Geek


  #2494548 29-May-2020 17:50
Send private message quote this post

It's a bit of a mish-mash. Unless a book sharing like place is Classified as retail? 

 

Then they push their own app as a method of tracing - BUT, you need everyone to use it or it's not much good. As the requirement is you have to hand over a valid log of everyone if there is a trace need.

 

So unless everyone does it, it probably needs the backup.

 

 

There are multiple different ways you can set up a contact tracing register. For example, a paper register, using an app or scanning a membership card.

 

If you have an existing booking system, such as a hairdresser or doctor, consider whether you can use that to meet your record-keeping requirements.

 

Your contact tracing register or record-keeping system must collect people’s:

 

  • full name
  • phone number or email or other effective means of communicating with them
  • date of entering the business
  • time in and out.
Contact tracing apps

 

There are many different apps you can use to collect information to help with contact tracing.

 

The Ministry of Health has created a tracing app — NZ COVID Tracer. This app works by scanning a QR code on a poster at participating businesses. The app then keeps track of where someone has scanned so they know where they have been.

 

The only thing it won't do, unless you zap twice - is the in and out


neb

2364 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2494553 29-May-2020 17:58
Send private message quote this post

I've now found a second place that has the MoH QR code, Bunnings of all places. Went pretty smoothly, but I didn't see anyone else using it.

14606 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2496169 1-Jun-2020 16:07
Send private message quote this post

I did see the code at Mitre 10 yesterday. I saw at least 10 people enter the store and nobody even looked at it, much less used it.






neb

2364 posts

Uber Geek

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  #2496373 2-Jun-2020 02:49
Send private message quote this post

Same with Bunnings, didn't see anyone else use it or even acknowledge its presence.

 
 
 
 


2363 posts

Uber Geek

Subscriber

  #2496490 2-Jun-2020 10:17
Send private message quote this post

I went into Dunedin City Mazda; walked right past their pen and paper setup - asked the question I needed to ask and then walked out 
There was no direction to sign anything.

 

However I went to a food truck on Saturday night and before I could order I had to prove I had either signed their pen and paper sign in or used the Rippl app QR code.

 

Haven't yet seen a MOH code for the official app, not that I went anywhere in the weekend


1048 posts

Uber Geek


  #2496502 2-Jun-2020 10:26
Send private message quote this post

I would be happy if they just quoted their cellphone number or phone if no cell. That would enable the alerts to be sent out or contact made.

 

Senecio:

 

However, in flicking back a few pages I noted that Donald Duck, Lady Gaga and Freddie Mercury have all eaten lunch in the Oporto Manukau in recent days!

 

 

 





Nokia 7 Plus
Nexus 6P 32Gb
Nexus 6 Phone
Nexus 5 Phone
Nexus 7 2013 Tablet
Samsung TAB A 8"
Samsung TAB A 10"

 

& many Windows laptops, Desktops etc

 

 

 


253 posts

Ultimate Geek


  #2496571 2-Jun-2020 11:26
Send private message quote this post

I agree compliance with contract tracing is slack. If we went into level 1 and there was an outbreak I fear we would have to go back to level 4 because contract tracing of those potentially infected could not be carried out effectively.

 

I am part of the problem. I went to to the MBIE website to get a premises contact QR code for a business I am associated with but bailed out as the site required a RealMe login to get the OR code.

 

I researched the rigmarole to get a RealMe ID and went nah! can't be bothered.





Obsequious hypocrite

1048 posts

Uber Geek


  #2496573 2-Jun-2020 11:28
Send private message quote this post

it's not that hard and if you use IRD or most other Govt Departments its makes sense to have one id that can be used in all sites

 

ObidiahSlope:

 

I researched the rigmarole to get a RealMe ID and went nah! can't be bothered.

 





Nokia 7 Plus
Nexus 6P 32Gb
Nexus 6 Phone
Nexus 5 Phone
Nexus 7 2013 Tablet
Samsung TAB A 8"
Samsung TAB A 10"

 

& many Windows laptops, Desktops etc

 

 

 


253 posts

Ultimate Geek


  #2496614 2-Jun-2020 11:35
Send private message quote this post

ronw:

 

it's not that hard and if you use IRD or most other Govt Departments its makes sense to have one id that can be used in all sites

 

 

I don't disagree but how many have a RealMe ID or would be prepared to make the effort to get one.

 

The objective is to overcome the slackness in the general population who have already demonstrated they are not prepared to make an effort. Putting barriers in their path won't improve the situation





Obsequious hypocrite

11 posts

Geek

Subscriber

  #2496640 2-Jun-2020 12:05
Send private message quote this post

ObidiahSlope:

 

I don't disagree but how many have a RealMe ID or would be prepared to make the effort to get one.

 

 

Everyone with an NZ passport, for a start.


166 posts

Master Geek


  #2496653 2-Jun-2020 12:24
Send private message quote this post

Its a puzzle why the process for a company to get a covid code is made so difficult, and complex.
Never mind why non registered companies and clubs and other groups can't easily register so they can have a code if the want at their event ?

 

Do they really think there are significant numbers of people that would spend the time to make fake registrations.
For what end ?
Having a 0.001% fake registrations would hardly break the system anyway.
Let alone that you can just take a photo and print someone else's if you were so inclined to this stupidity.

 

Make it easy, simple if you want quick uptake.

 

It would be interesting to know the reasons for this complexity. 


3894 posts

Uber Geek


  #2496715 2-Jun-2020 13:24
Send private message quote this post

It seems they created a entirely new digital structure to handle the Identification module (obtaining an ID that they recognise your business by) instead of in-house it seems.

 

You need to get yourself in check and then ask them to assign one. Which is the hard part. 

 

https://businessconnect.govt.nz/about/ 

 

But the irony..

 

 

What businesses tell us

 

Businesses tell us that they spend a lot of time and effort trying to navigate complex and fragmented public services – just so they can make sure the compliance box is ticked.

 

Common complaints include:

 

  • needing to repeat the same information over and over
  • that rules and processes are too complicated to understand or follow, and
  • that coordination between government agencies is limited

1 | ... | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22
Filter this topic showing only the reply marked as answer View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic



Twitter and LinkedIn »



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Menulog change colours as parent company merges with Dutch food delivery service
Posted 2-Jul-2020 07:53


Techweek2020 goes digital to make it easier for Kiwis to connect and learn
Posted 2-Jul-2020 07:48


Catalyst Cloud launches new Solutions Hub to support their kiwi Partners and Customers
Posted 2-Jul-2020 07:44


Microsoft to help New Zealand job seekers acquire new digital skills needed for the COVID-19 economy
Posted 2-Jul-2020 07:41


Hewlett Packard Enterprise introduces new HPE GreenLake cloud services
Posted 24-Jun-2020 08:07


New cloud data protection services from Hewlett Packard Enterprise
Posted 24-Jun-2020 07:58


Hewlett Packard Enterprise unveils HPE Ezmeral, new software portfolio and brand
Posted 24-Jun-2020 07:10


Apple reveals new developer technologies to foster the next generation of apps
Posted 23-Jun-2020 15:30


Poly introduces solutions for Microsoft Teams Rooms
Posted 23-Jun-2020 15:14


Lenovo launches new ThinkPad P Series mobile workstations
Posted 23-Jun-2020 09:17


Lenovo brings Linux certification to ThinkPad and ThinkStation Workstation portfolio
Posted 23-Jun-2020 08:56


Apple introduces new features for iPhone iOS14 and iPadOS 14
Posted 23-Jun-2020 08:28


Apple announces Mac transition to Apple silicon
Posted 23-Jun-2020 08:18


OPPO A72 a top mid-tier smartphone
Posted 19-Jun-2020 18:02


D-Link A/NZ launches new smart AX1500 Wi-Fi 6 Router
Posted 19-Jun-2020 15:03



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.


Support Geekzone »

Our community of supporters help make Geekzone possible. Click the button below to join them.

Support Geezone on PressPatron



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.