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#2875918 27-Feb-2022 23:12

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Pretty much. We’ve been dealing with Covid actively around us for 2 years in Dubai. Since vaccinations we have travelled internationally, have an active social life, play sport and the kids go to school and play sports. I work from home mostly but my wife has been in class since September 2020.

Our life is different to before Covid, we wear masks in public places / at work but we live our lives. Everyone has to make their own assessment but for most vaccinated people Covid isn’t that harmful. It can be harmful for vulnerable people or if you are unlucky but anecdotally (and in our employers) it’s very unusual now for people to get really badly sick.

It’s not a cold, if you get it you are likely to feel very unwell. It’s also not the Black Plague.

In my view do what you are comfortable doing within the rules around you and accept that others have different levels of comfort. You’ll drive yourself crazy otherwise.

The primary risk is spending time with people outside of your bubble without a mask. You are unlikely to get Covid in a retail store, restaurant or other setting. At a restaurant, the only likely spread is more than 1 bubble at a table, no masks for protracted periods of time. Covid is primarily spreading household to household this way, not in shops and restaurants.

When we dine out we are trying to ensure that either have an outdoor dining area, or near a window. All restaurants I've dealt with are happy to accommodate peoples extra spacing requirements, esp if you dine off-peak which we often do.

Our kids are at school, it's inevitable we will contract it, 8 people in my daughter's class have had it (half the classrooms in the school have at least one case, 1 from her Scout group tested positive today after a founders day event. Schools that are adhering to single bubble classrooms during play times have stated they don't expect to close unless they don't have enough teachers to teach.

We aren't going anything group sport etc, and wear a mask where practical. Our hope is that we will get a mild dose..

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#2875920 27-Feb-2022 23:22

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Handle9:

Pretty much. We’ve been dealing with Covid actively around us for 2 years in Dubai. Since vaccinations we have travelled internationally, have an active social life, play sport and the kids go to school and play sports. I work from home mostly but my wife has been in class since September 2020.

Our life is different to before Covid, we wear masks in public places / at work but we live our lives. Everyone has to make their own assessment but for most vaccinated people Covid isn’t that harmful. It can be harmful for vulnerable people or if you are unlucky but anecdotally (and in our employers) it’s very unusual now for people to get really badly sick.

It’s not a cold, if you get it you are likely to feel very unwell. It’s also not the Black Plague.

In my view do what you are comfortable doing within the rules around you and accept that others have different levels of comfort. You’ll drive yourself crazy otherwise.

The primary risk is spending time with people outside of your bubble without a mask. You are unlikely to get Covid in a retail store, restaurant or other setting. At a restaurant, the only likely spread is more than 1 bubble at a table, no masks for protracted periods of time. Covid is primarily spreading household to household this way, not in shops and restaurants.

When we dine out we are trying to ensure that either have an outdoor dining area, or near a window. All restaurants I've dealt with are happy to accommodate peoples extra spacing requirements, esp if you dine off-peak which we often do.

Our kids are at school, it's inevitable we will contract it, 8 people in my daughter's class have had it (half the classrooms in the school have at least one case, 1 from her Scout group tested positive today after a founders day event. Schools that are adhering to single bubble classrooms during play times have stated they don't expect to close unless they don't have enough teachers to teach.

We aren't going anything group sport etc, and wear a mask where practical. Our hope is that we will get a mild dose..

I know quite a few people who have likely caught it in a restaurant and it certainly spreads in workplaces with masks. There's a certain element of rolling snake eyes to it - most of the time you'll be fine, sometimes you won't.

Bubbles really aren't a thing for us or any of the people I talk to around the world. It's gone too long for that sort of thing to be sustainable.

I wouldn't be so sure about school, once again it's luck of the draw. My wife and kids have gone 18 months without testing positive, touch wood. Class sizes here are relatively small though and they have worn masks since September 2020.

This week they have reduced restrictions here. Mask use is not required outside, not that many people were following that anyway, asymptomatic close contacts no longer have to isolate, no PCRs required anymore for vaccinated inbound travellers. We're coming out the other side of the omicron wave. It'd be nice to have a few months of calm before whatever happens next.

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#2876051 28-Feb-2022 09:00

I keep hearing generalities about Omicron, except if one is 'vulnerable', without vulnerable being quantified in any meaningful way. So I just assume it applies to me and am taking the precautions I can. Fortunately I live on a farm and can avoid other people most of the time. I have a bubble with a family in town that I see every week or so and can arrange food deliveries there. I am avoiding supermarkets and other places where crowds gather until there is more clarity about things. I can't avoid exposure completely but I can keep it to an absolute minimum. Fortunately my personality type does not require extensive human contact.

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#2876068 28-Feb-2022 09:04

Rikkitic:

I keep hearing generalities about Omicron, except if one is 'vulnerable', without vulnerable being quantified in any meaningful way. So I just assume it applies to me and am taking the precautions I can. Fortunately I live on a farm and can avoid other people most of the time. I have a bubble with a family in town that I see every week or so and can arrange food deliveries there. I am avoiding supermarkets and other places where crowds gather until there is more clarity about things. I can't avoid exposure completely but I can keep it to an absolute minimum. Fortunately my personality type does not require extensive human contact.

I think you are about as safe as anyone in the country right now. Try not to worry. Even if you do contract it, it's likely you would have mild symptoms as most people do. Not all older people suffer badly, I have a couple of elderly people I work with who have had it, they have underlying health issues too, and were a bit miserable for a day or two and are right as rain after 4 days.

Try not to worry :)

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#2876070 28-Feb-2022 09:06

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Im doing mad mitre10 and bunnings runs for supplies so I have things to do for when I eventually get it and am forced to stay home and isolate.

Lockdown was a waste of time because I had no materials or cash to get them so this time it will be different.

I don't know how I'd feel with Omicron but I had proper flu once and doing anything other than lying around feeling awful was never on the agenda!

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#2876071 28-Feb-2022 09:07

I have never really enjoyed working from home, but I have decided to do so throughout March because of two risk factors associated with going into the office:

The need to use public transport.
Yobbos blowing water vapour into my face on city streets.

If I can avoid these two things then I figure I can limit my risk of contracting the virus, but I have accepted that I still need to live my life and can't achieve zero risk without becoming a hermit.

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#2876075 28-Feb-2022 09:10

alasta:

I have never really enjoyed working from home, but I have decided to do so throughout March because of two risk factors associated with going into the office:

The need to use public transport.
Yobbos blowing water vapour into my face on city streets.
If I can avoid these two things then I figure I can limit my risk of contracting the virus, but I have accepted that I still need to live my life and can't achieve zero risk without becoming a hermit.

Vaping people are... special.

They came up with the absurd explanation that vaping would help ward off nicotine addiction. It was never explained how a product with nicotine would achieve it. But now we have a new generation of people addicted to that crap.

Anyone who says "I am not taking a vaccine because I don't kwno what's in it" that vapes - while buying those Made in China liquids, are just plain dumb.

But yes, the water vapour crap.

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#2876079 28-Feb-2022 09:13

Vulnerable - Anyone that interacts with their elderly parents are normally going to drop themselves in that bucket

As will those on medication, those who have stuff like lung issues or cancer. Visit hopsitals, have people that work at hospitals.

Others that are considerate of their peers potentially being exposed to detriment. And it seems to be getting harder to find people who consider it.

Basically the at risk places can almost be defined as certain business now that tend to those who may not be capable themselves, or be heavily impacted by any grade of illness.

Everyone is vulnerable. Some more than others via risk factor

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#2876081 28-Feb-2022 09:15

Rikkitic:
I keep hearing generalities about Omicron, except if one is 'vulnerable', without vulnerable being quantified in any meaningful way. So I just assume it applies to me and am taking the precautions I can. Fortunately I live on a farm and can avoid other people most of the time. I have a bubble with a family in town that I see every week or so and can arrange food deliveries there. I am avoiding supermarkets and other places where crowds gather until there is more clarity about things. I can't avoid exposure completely but I can keep it to an absolute minimum. Fortunately my personality type does not require extensive human contact.

This is as good a summary as any to what vulnerable means.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/people-at-higher-risk/who-is-at-high-risk-from-coronavirus/

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#2876083 28-Feb-2022 09:20

@MaxineN I am responding to you here as per @freitasm suggestion. I wont participate in the other Covid-19 thread.

I have received 3 full shots and this Sunday past I received the booster shot. For the 3rd full shot I had to obtain a prescription from my GP which is done under special authority this can then be taken to a vaccination center. At the vaccination center I had to sign a waiver and declaration or order to receive the third injection. This is a special authority approved by Medsafe and the Ministry for those who are seriously immune compromised. The booster is not a third full shot.

The booster I received on Sunday was done under the normal "Book My Vaccine" process.

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#2876179 28-Feb-2022 11:55

Goes to show how little damns given are now.

Retail chain store. Has removed all the scan qr codes from windows. Put a single almost ripped one with ballot box inside door. Should anyone still want to.

None of the staff wearing coverings.

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#2876182 28-Feb-2022 11:57

Oblivian: Goes to show how little damns given are now.

Retail chain store. Has removed all the scan qr codes from windows. Put a single almost ripped one with ballot box inside door. Should anyone still want to.

None of the staff wearing coverings.

I'd suggest that's a very isolated incident. Every place I've been to in the past few weeks has been continuing though many feel it shouldn't be required.

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#2876389 28-Feb-2022 16:31

Breaking News on Stuff

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has announced that from Wednesday at 11:59pm, vaccinated travellers from Australia will no longer need to self-isolate for a week
* The border will fully reopen for Kiwis returning from anywhere from Friday.

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#2876555 28-Feb-2022 20:27

Eva888: Breaking News on Stuff

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has announced that from Wednesday at 11:59pm, vaccinated travellers from Australia will no longer need to self-isolate for a week
* The border will fully reopen for Kiwis returning from anywhere from Friday.

This is total insanity.

It's not COVID we need to worry about from international visitors but the FLU's and RSV's that we haven't been exposed to for 2 years. It's going to be total carnage if they get loose. Isolation would slow this down and in many cases prevent it.

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#2876565 28-Feb-2022 20:44

networkn:

This is total insanity.

It's not COVID we need to worry about from international visitors but the FLU's and RSV's that we haven't been exposed to for 2 years. It's going to be total carnage if they get loose. Isolation would slow this down and in many cases prevent it.

I don't want to venture in politics but decisions being made in 2022 are baffling me.

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