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#2877497 2-Mar-2022 09:02

Dingbatt:

Today marks 1 year since I had my first (of three) Covid vaccination. I still have the same number of heads and fingers. I can’t pick up 5G without a phone and cutlery doesn’t stick to me.

While our household is clear of the ‘Cron at the moment (touch wood), I’ve got to ask, in the event of a household case how is it I can still go to work after a negative RAT, but I can’t go to the supermarket?

isnt your work taking on that risk?

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#2877499 2-Mar-2022 09:04

Someone I know pointed out a diagram that explains it to a degree. And made sense.

RATs need a very high load to detect. It's not a lab processed PCR that's as sensitive

What do symptoms likely mean? Well, to someone bolstered. That you're body is doing work to fight early
detected infection. Now if it didn't know how to, that onset would likely take a lot later.
So we're all likely early phase and the RAT just isn't at the level it can detect early onset. But the engine is working double time.

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#2877518 2-Mar-2022 09:48

Having a sofa delivered today and feeling very mindful that protection is now needed especially from the younger ones that mingle more. Will wear a mask and air the room and ask them to be masked. Meanwhile next door a houseful of students all have the virus and daughter at work waiting to hear if staff member is positive as she’s a close contact.

It’s brought home that Covid is well and truly among us all now whereas before it was something in the news that we felt distanced from.

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#2877521 2-Mar-2022 10:02

Oblivian: Someone I know pointed out a diagram that explains it to a degree. And made sense.

RATs need a very high load to detect. It's not a lab processed PCR that's as sensitive

Are those the ones that are taking a week to process? Surveillance PCRs are effectively useless at the moment, as are saliva tests because of the delay in getting a result. I’ll hang my hat on RATs thanks and would like to manage and get on with my own life. We have been frightened and coddled for the past two years so I can understand people having difficulty adjusting to having to take personal responsibility and look after themselves.

I spent a year before the vaccines arrived relying on personal hygiene and procedures to keep myself well. I do the same now.

Eva888, you are quite right to be cautious. You should be able to dictate how people behave in your own home. If they don’t meet your standards, they aren’t allowed in. Any ‘strangers’ visiting our house are told the requirements with no apology for insisting on them.

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#2877596 2-Mar-2022 10:18

Dingbatt: Are those the ones that are taking a week to process? Surveillance PCRs are effectively useless at the moment, as are saliva tests because of the delay in getting a result. I’ll hang my hat on RATs thanks and would like to manage and get on with my own life.

I'm not saying ignore RATs. And there is a heap less lab tests being done now so results are meant to be faster. The apologies were given in yesterday standup that the lag had increased to the state it did.

A new post jumped in as I was typing. It was responding to why RATs appear to be false or slow at picking up positive after onset.
It's just the way the RATs work. You might be positive.. feeling sick. But not get a result until 2 days later as load builds to detection levels.

The number of people that dont realise the RATs are also mostly nasal is catching them out too.

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#2877598 2-Mar-2022 10:22

Just got FaceTimed that grandchild has covid. Must say she looked perky enough, mostly sore throat and felt cold last night. Parents are masked but it’s inevitable they will catch it.

Maybe it’s time to put a sign on our front doors that masks are required. That way you don’t have to tell people face to face. Then you can choose who you don’t mind coming without one according to the amount of risk you feel they are. Delivery people are definitely high risk as they are mingling.

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#2877667 2-Mar-2022 12:10

Eva888: Just got FaceTimed that grandchild has covid. Must say she looked perky enough, mostly sore throat and felt cold last night. Parents are masked but it’s inevitable they will catch it.

Maybe it’s time to put a sign on our front doors that masks are required. That way you don’t have to tell people face to face. Then you can choose who you don’t mind coming without one according to the amount of risk you feel they are. Delivery people are definitely high risk as they are mingling.

Lots of posters available for example https://toolkit.covid19.govt.nz/assets/552769

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#2877710 2-Mar-2022 13:18

RAT Test number 8 today on the way into work. All negative so far - I am definitely not a rat.

Haven't had a positive in the workplace yet. Just two people as household contacts, so far.

Sometimes its good to be living in a tumbleweed town.

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#2877716 2-Mar-2022 13:34

You have two household contacts? Shouldn't you be isolating?

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#2877720 2-Mar-2022 13:40

freitasm: You have two household contacts? Shouldn't you be isolating?

I may be wrong, but I don't think he's saying that *he* had two household contacts, but rather that within his work, there were two people who were household contacts

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#2877721 2-Mar-2022 13:41

freitasm: You have two household contacts? Shouldn't you be isolating?

I think Mike's talking about the impact thus far on his workplace, ie there are two people at work who are household contacts so who are isolating.

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#2877737 2-Mar-2022 13:50

MikeAqua:

RAT Test number 8 today on the way into work. All negative so far - I am definitely not a rat.

Haven't had a positive in the workplace yet. Just two people as household contacts, so far.

Sometimes its good to be living in a tumbleweed town.

I think I'm up to number 5 on the RAT test tally all being negative. Already over sticking a swab up each nostril. It seems a bit like Russian Roulette for me, just a matter of time before the hammer falls I fear. All practical precautions being taken but it's a numbers game and the odds aren't flash the way I see it. About 6 so far at work, casual contact with one well over a week ago.

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#2877815 2-Mar-2022 15:17

kiwi_64:

freitasm: You have two household contacts? Shouldn't you be isolating?

I may be wrong, but I don't think he's saying that *he* had two household contacts, but rather that within his work, there were two people who were household contacts

Yes, makes sense, reading again.

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#2877820 2-Mar-2022 15:27

Technofreak:

I think I'm up to number 5 on the RAT test tally all being negative. Already over sticking a swab up each nostril. It seems a bit like Russian Roulette for me, just a matter of time before the hammer falls I fear. All practical precautions being taken but it's a numbers game and the odds aren't flash the way I see it. About 6 so far at work, casual contact with one well over a week ago.

Really does feel that way. Number 3 for me today, two positive cases within my household. I'm allowed to go to work via the Close Contact Exemption Scheme, but am rostered to work from home, thankfully.

Feels like it is only a matter of time..

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#2877823 2-Mar-2022 15:35

just had a phone call from my father who is 83 and living in a retirement village and he thinks he has had it , he had all the symptoms and quite a few people have been moved to the westside of the complex who tested positive, he thanked me for convincing him to get the vaccinations and the booster, he wasnt going to as my sister who is anti vax said not to, i dont speak to my sister anymore, and just glad he listened to the facts and his Doctor and went ahead with them. With his heart problems im pretty sure they kept him out of hospital.

Common sense is not as common as you think.

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