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#290002 14-Oct-2021 14:04
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Creating this as suggested by @Technofreak to keep discussion on these in their own thread


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  #2795186 14-Oct-2021 14:08
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Since this has gone live there seems to be less info than there was in the beta version? 

 

Assuming my memory is correct, the beta included the vaccination location.  Now just the vaccine type (Pfizer BioNTech of course) and dates.

 

https://app.covid19.health.nz/vaccination-records

 

 


 
 
 

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  #2795190 14-Oct-2021 14:12
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Correct.

 

Slimmed it down a bit. Can still get the other details via the paper request from MoH. But I expect it's a case of 'end users won't care so don't show' sort of thing for immediate usage.

 

I've seen a few people say the activation emails never arrive. Sure do just fine on Google. So unless there are other mail servers on high alert to the content and trapping them?

 

The current one seems to ask if you have your NHI number handy now when signing up. The beta didn't seem to give me the option and it couldn't find a match - went manual. Despite helping a family member sign up with the number off a prescription bottle, it still flagged for manual follow up. May be a licence as ID thing. Since realme seems to go fast.

 

(My details with the DHB are a little... old/outdated)


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Is anyone else concerned that key medical information appears to be hosted offshore?





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  #2795197 14-Oct-2021 14:24
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DS248:

 

Since this has gone live there seems to be less info than there was in the beta version? 

 

Assuming my memory is correct, the beta included the vaccination location.  Now just the vaccine type (Pfizer BioNTech of course) and dates.

 

https://app.covid19.health.nz/vaccination-records

 

 

Yeah, some of the initial versions I saw included a lot of technical details

 

including how it was administered  ( intra muscular) , which arm it was, and where you got it...

 

now looks like its been pared back...


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  #2795270 14-Oct-2021 14:47
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openmedia:

Is anyone else concerned that key medical information appears to be hosted offshore?



Doesn’t bother me in the slightest.

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  #2795330 14-Oct-2021 15:16
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openmedia:

 

Is anyone else concerned that key medical information appears to be hosted offshore?

 

 

The IP address shows the domain behind Cloudfront. That's the CDN. What makes you think it's hosted offshore?





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  #2795336 14-Oct-2021 15:26
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DS248:
https://app.covid19.health.nz/vaccination-records

That site gives me a blank page in firefox, after logging in successfully. The page's title is correct. I tried clearing the browser cache and cookies.

It's good in chromium.



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  #2795337 14-Oct-2021 15:29
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freitasm:

 

openmedia:

 

Is anyone else concerned that key medical information appears to be hosted offshore?

 

 

The IP address shows the domain behind Cloudfront. That's the CDN. What makes you think it's hosted offshore?

 

 

You are correct:

 

COVID Immunisation Register (CIR) privacy statement | Ministry of Health NZ

 

"The CIR operates on a Salesforce platform, which is hosted on Amazon Web Services servers in Sydney, Australia."





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  #2795343 14-Oct-2021 15:42
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I tried to sign up but had two issues.

 

The first was that I never got the verification code when using my hotmail.com account. If this is just me then cool, but it may indicate a wider problem.

 

The second was that I do not have a current passport (mine expired), nor any of the other documentation. I assumed this would be an issue but tried the expired passport anyway - no dice. No certificate for me I guess. Maybe I could go through the rigamarole of getting realme up and running again. I can't remember what that requires or if it is even possible now.






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  #2795346 14-Oct-2021 15:47
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Is anyone else concerned that key medical information appears to be hosted offshore?



I'd rather it hosted in the likes of Microsoft or AWS datacentres with their extremely high uptime as opposed to some dinky NZ based one.

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  #2795352 14-Oct-2021 15:59
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freitasm:

 

You are correct:

 

COVID Immunisation Register (CIR) privacy statement | Ministry of Health NZ

 

"The CIR operates on a Salesforce platform, which is hosted on Amazon Web Services servers in Sydney, Australia."

 

 

I think I'm more comfortable with it in AWS' Sydney region than with most of the on-shore providers, tbh. At the end of the day, the biggest security risks are not in the platform provider responsibility side of the matrix but on the actual app/service side.


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  #2795356 14-Oct-2021 16:09
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freitasm:

 

You are correct:

 

COVID Immunisation Register (CIR) privacy statement | Ministry of Health NZ

 

"The CIR operates on a Salesforce platform, which is hosted on Amazon Web Services servers in Sydney, Australia."

 

 

Pretty sure they are using Salesforce/AWS for the Bookmyvaccine site too.. so that makes logical sense the backend Datastore  is on the same platform...


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  #2795357 14-Oct-2021 16:11
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We now need evidence of double vacs to go into my mother’s rest home, so I created a health account for my partner via her RealMe account (she wasn’t given a card at the time of the vaccinations). What a disaster! Verification emails etc arrived fine, but it somehow entered a loop in which I’d get partway through creating the health account and it would make me log back into RealMe, and then not have saved changes in the health account. Rejected the driver’s licence details as well, then accepted them but threw me out... After 20 minutes of this I was about to give up but out of the blue it somehow worked, and displayed her vaccinations!

By comparison, my signing up via the beta site about a week ago (also via RealMe login) was an absolute walk in the park. They did have to manually verify my NHI, but that was done in about a day.

I sure hope my first experience is more typical than the last, as if the problems I faced with my partner’s account is common there’ll be many people that give up or need extra help.

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jonathan18: We now need evidence of double vacs to go into my mother’s rest home, so I created a health account for my partner via her RealMe account (she wasn’t given a card at the time of the vaccinations). What a disaster! Verification emails etc arrived fine, but it somehow entered a loop in which I’d get partway through creating the health account and it would make me log back into RealMe, and then not have saved changes in the health account. Rejected the driver’s licence details as well, then accepted them but threw me out... After 20 minutes of this I was about to give up but out of the blue it somehow worked, and displayed her vaccinations!

By comparison, my signing up via the beta site about a week ago (also via RealMe login) was an absolute walk in the park. They did have to manually verify my NHI, but that was done in about a day.

I sure hope my first experience is more typical than the last, as if the problems I faced with my partner’s account is common there’ll be many people that give up or need extra help.

 

Sounds like it was unable to verify the ID from Realme, which by accounts has been up and down like a yo-yo as people hammer the health portal.. sounds like it finally came up for you

 

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  #2795365 14-Oct-2021 16:32
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wellygary: Sounds like it was unable to verify the ID from Realme, which by accounts has been up and down like a yo-yo as people hammer the health portal.. sounds like it finally came up for you


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Sounds plausible! This could explain why it was the health portal that was asking for her driver’s licence details, as if it had been successfully connecting to RealMe she’d have been verified via that (given she’s already proven her identity as part of setting that up).

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