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  #2816288 20-Nov-2021 19:32
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An iPhone 13 mini can only just barely read the QR Pass (printed at 100% scale resulting in it being at 2.6 cm sq) but my Zebra DS2208 handheld scanner reads it quite easily.

 

The error in my mind is that the government's smartphone app needs to work robustly on any smartphone.  I think the code would need to fill up the width of the "business card" size to order to achieve that.




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  #2816318 20-Nov-2021 22:36
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Wife's name has been updated. Turns out her name was wrong in her NHI record, which her GP was able to update when provided evidence. After several hours the change was reflected on the pass requesting website. Great news. She is very happy, and had been irrationally anxious about this minor issue.

 

 

 

Regarding scanning of the paper card at default (A4) print size. QR code is sharp and clear when printed from my laser printer. However the 3rd party verifier app only uses the ultra-wide camera on my phone, and my phone can's focus close enough to get the QR code to read.

 

I assume the official app will include the ability to switch camera that may improve the situation.

 

 

 

Still I think it was poor design making it so small, could have omitted the word "Name" to save an entire line, and tightened spacing to free up space to make it much bigger.

 

My Preference would have been to omit personal details from the passes (perhaps other than first name to avoid mixing up passes if you are carrying for kids / elderly etc). This would make it pretty obvious it is not worth editing the name details to falsify the pass due, and would encourage people accepting the passes to scan them and use the details encrypted in the QR code.


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  #2816375 21-Nov-2021 06:28
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Having just finished helping the family get their certs into Google Pay on their phones, I’ve got to ask, why it couldn’t have been included as a tab on the NZ Covid Tracer App? You know, the one everyone is supposed to open and use before entering a premises?





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  #2816378 21-Nov-2021 06:52
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Dingbatt:

 

Having just finished helping the family get their certs into Google Pay on their phones, I’ve got to ask, why it couldn’t have been included as a tab on the NZ Covid Tracer App? You know, the one everyone is supposed to open and use before entering a premises?

 

 

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  #2816379 21-Nov-2021 06:59
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Dingbatt:

Having just finished helping the family get their certs into Google Pay on their phones, I’ve got to ask, why it couldn’t have been included as a tab on the NZ Covid Tracer App? You know, the one everyone is supposed to open and use before entering a premises?



It was something about the tracer app having access to Bluetooth and security/privacy implications of that.

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  #2816380 21-Nov-2021 07:19
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@Dingbatt:

Having just finished helping the family get their certs into Google Pay on their phones, I’ve got to ask, why it couldn’t have been included as a tab on the NZ Covid Tracer App? You know, the one everyone is supposed to open and use before entering a premises?



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  #2816382 21-Nov-2021 07:21
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Our Covid app has an incredibly strict privacy model. As an app user you are totally anonymous and all data is stored on the device only.

Adding the vaccine certificate to the app fundamentally breaks this and would allow you to be identified.

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  #2816383 21-Nov-2021 07:22
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Batman:

Dingbatt:


Having just finished helping the family get their certs into Google Pay on their phones, I’ve got to ask, why it couldn’t have been included as a tab on the NZ Covid Tracer App? You know, the one everyone is supposed to open and use before entering a premises?



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Sort of. It was a condition from Apple and Google when using the Bluetooth Event Notification Service that governments are not to have anything personally identifiable of the individual who enabled ENS. So MoH couldn’t add *anything* to the app other than links for you to login or linking to another app.

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  #2816384 21-Nov-2021 07:24
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Went through the process with no problems, using Android Settings (not app) except for the last little bit. The G pay, Ministry of health “Covid Card” that WAS created, for some reason was not populated with QR code ect. Have tried removing then re-applying using email link with the same result. Any ideas?




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  #2816390 21-Nov-2021 07:57
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sbiddle: Our Covid app has an incredibly strict privacy model. As an app user you are totally anonymous and all data is stored on the device only.

Adding the vaccine certificate to the app fundamentally breaks this and would allow you to be identified.

 

So bringing up a certificate that has your name and age on it to be scanned doesn’t affect your privacy? On a device that can listen to you? That has location data on your every movement? And willing to let Google or Apple have that information?

 

What I’m suggesting is the ability to store your certificate on your device in one Covid app. As I understand it that’s how the various Australian state apps do it.





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  #2816396 21-Nov-2021 08:10
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Rikkitic:

 

Can someone explain to me how this works? I just downloaded my pass. I don't carry a phone so I printed it out. I don't see how the QR code part could possibly be scanned. It is far too compressed on the card-size printout and is basically just a blob. My printer has normal resolution but the print area is just too small. The code does appear okay if I zoom it. The card contains my name and birth date but what is there to prove this is not a fake?

 

 

 

 

i know you say you dont carry a phone but do you have a phone? could you go to one of the couple of webpages which include the scanning software and try scanning your code with them to see if it works?


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  #2816399 21-Nov-2021 08:25
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Rikkitic:

 

Can someone explain to me how this works? I just downloaded my pass. I don't carry a phone so I printed it out. I don't see how the QR code part could possibly be scanned. It is far too compressed on the card-size printout and is basically just a blob. My printer has normal resolution but the print area is just too small. The code does appear okay if I zoom it. The card contains my name and birth date but what is there to prove this is not a fake?

 

 

i know you say you dont carry a phone but do you have a phone? could you go to one of the couple of webpages which include the scanning software and try scanning your code with them to see if it works?

 

 

Or just use these webpages on a laptop with camera if available - that's how I tested mine.





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  #2816405 21-Nov-2021 08:47
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Jase2985:

 

i know you say you dont carry a phone but do you have a phone? could you go to one of the couple of webpages which include the scanning software and try scanning your code with them to see if it works?

 

 

I have never had a phone. I did just inherit one but I don't know anything about it. Phones are simply not part of my world.

 

 





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  #2816407 21-Nov-2021 08:50
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freitasm:

 

Or just use these webpages on a laptop with camera if available - that's how I tested mine.

 

 

That I do have but I have never used it. I might give it a try some time.

 

 

 

 





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  #2816417 21-Nov-2021 09:28
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Rikkitic:

Jase2985:


i know you say you dont carry a phone but do you have a phone? could you go to one of the couple of webpages which include the scanning software and try scanning your code with them to see if it works?



I have never had a phone. I did just inherit one but I don't know anything about it. Phones are simply not part of my world.


 



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