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timmmay
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  #3173274 19-Dec-2023 09:04
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Nasal rinses are super, super useful. You can put your regular dose of nasal spray into the bottle as then it gets right up into the sinuses. It's CRITICAL to use boiled, cooled water as otherwise any bugs in the water can cause big problems, even death. Boiled water kills any bugs, obviously.

 

It's also worth seeing an ENT to get your sinuses properly checked. It may be a physical exam or a scan. An ENT massively improved my sinus issues.




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  #3173283 19-Dec-2023 09:45
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jonathan18: 
The only ‘solution’ that seems to work is being by the sea; whenever we stay at our union holiday homes on the Kapiti Coast (seaside property) her allergies are so much improved. One more reason for that being our planned retirement location!

 

You just have to find what works for her. I'm at the beach in Kapiti and I've never had it this bad.


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  #3173291 19-Dec-2023 10:07
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A friend of mine had an allergy test done where they prick you with like a dozen things to see if they can figure out what it is.

 

He and his doctor then went through an allergy de-sensitisation program where they injected him with a tiny tiny dose of what he was allergic to, then slightly more a month or so later, then slightly more and so on.   Had to have nurse on hand and also adrenaline etc.

 

Took a couple of years, and the stuff they inject wasn't cheap (you pay per vial no matter how much you use).

 

Cured.

 

All asthma gone as well.

 

It wasn't through specialists, just his GP.   Done at Northcare here in Auckland.




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  #3173335 19-Dec-2023 12:44
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duckDecoy:

 

A friend of mine had an allergy test done where they prick you with like a dozen things to see if they can figure out what it is.

 

He and his doctor then went through an allergy de-sensitisation program where they injected him with a tiny tiny dose of what he was allergic to, then slightly more a month or so later, then slightly more and so on.   Had to have nurse on hand and also adrenaline etc.

 

Took a couple of years, and the stuff they inject wasn't cheap (you pay per vial no matter how much you use).

 

Cured.

 

All asthma gone as well.

 

It wasn't through specialists, just his GP.   Done at Northcare here in Auckland.

 

 

I had a similar thing about a decade ago, but it was sublingual (tablets) rather than injections. It didn't help at all.


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  #3173343 19-Dec-2023 13:03
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Things that helped me limit symptoms: -

 

  • Cortisone injection just before spring.
  • SinuRinse
  • Flixonase
  • Loratadine

Things that prevented symptoms: -

 

  • Seeing an immunologist who gradually desensitised me to pollen (he'd previously helped a friend who was allergic to horses and also a horsey-chick).

 

 

 





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  #3173370 19-Dec-2023 14:11
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I've had horrible hayfever at various times throughout my life, including a year or so of cedar pollen allergies in Japan (people occasionally called the fire brigade reporting forest fires because the amount of yellow pollen being blown off looked like fire) where I would be curled up on the floor of the shower, shivering and quietly vomiting. 

 

Back in NZ, it's bad, and Flixonase never really worked for me that well, until my GP suggested keeping it by your bed, and using it the instant you wake up, before you start breathing more deeply when moving around.

 

I don't know the science behind it, but this seems to work a lot better than just using it at random times. Maybe it's because the spray is actually hitting the side of my nasal cavity, instead of landing on all the snot that starts shortly after getting up...?





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I have the worst hayfever of anyone I know.   

 

Had it all my life. I used to take razene antihistamines and they worked well, until I turned 23 and suddenly all antihistamines - including "non drowsy" ones - will make me sleepy for two days.   

 

I can take a teeny tiny tablet on friday and sleep until midday sunday, only waking a few times for an hour each.   

Solution

 

So after a change of doctor a few years ago, he prescribed Prednisone.    

 

Prednisone is a steroid and not fun but wow it works well.   

 

Starting at the beginning of december each year, i do 10 days, one tablet a day and it solves all my hayfever problems until about the 5th of January when i need another tablet for 3 days and then i am good until next summer. 

 

There are side effects - It makes you hungry so you can gain weight, it can keep you awake so you dont want to be drinking coffee at the same time, and i am one of the most docile people you would ever meet - but I can be punching holes in walls angry.   
All the stuff you were warned about steroids in health class at school. But its easily manageable. 

 

Better than falling asleep while i am on someones roof.   

 

It was set up so i could order it along with my other hayfever stuff through my doctors web portal but i think they changed the law at some point and you have to get it prescribed specifically each year now.   

 

   

 

I have been trying to have a go at avoiding it this year - normally i take a week off work so im not so angry around people. Its not that bad but i get wound up easily at this time of the year. This year i cant take time off until after xmas.   

 

So other things   

 

 - Itchy throat - i just have to take half a zetop tablet. Enough to take the itch away but not enough to put me into drowsy mode.   

 

 - Nasal Spray. I use flixonase each night before i go to sleep. I am sure this is also contributing to my drowsyness but its not a listed side effect so I am not sure. Anyhow it helps if you use it regularly even if you dont have symptoms because it takes a few days in a row before it starts working.   

 

 - Otravin nasal spray - this is sold at the pharmacy. Its like squirting some menthol from a throat lozenge airwaves gum or up your nose and it clears it within seconds. Natural too. 
This helps because   

 

 - Blowing nose regularly. You cant let your nose get stuffy or blocked so its important to blow out the snot as soon as it accumulates rather than sniffing to try to keep it in until a more convenient time to blow. The reason is because if your nose blocks up, your sinuses block up and pressure pushes some snot up into your eyes so they start getting sore and itchy.   

That is if you keep your nose clear, you wont get itchy eyes. Otravin is a very good way to do that when it starts to get stuffy, and Flixonase every night should help your nose stop getting stuffy in the first place though by this time of the year, flixonase has stopped working on the grasses. It fully works for the pine tree pollen which we see mostly in spring as yellow fog coming off the forests in the wind.    

 

 - Dry crusty skin around the eyes. For this use hydrocortisone ointment (not cream). I usually get a little punnet prescribed for the pharmacist to make up and it lasts me a few years. Very good for any rash or skin irritation in general but it works in the corner of your eyes as long as you keep it out of your eyes. Provides a moist surface to help the skin, without drying fast and a barrier to the air. But seriously if you use it near your eyes you need to be sure to wipe it off if your tears begin to cause it to loose its viscosity and get too close to entering the eyes.    

 

 

 

  - Clear out your eyes every morning. When i get up in the morning i use wet fingers to clear the stringy gunk out of my eyes. This gunk comes from the sinuses and is what causes your eyes to become itchy - like having something stuck in your eye. I find eyedrops help a little bit but not much. 
Most people dont realise their sore itchy eyes is caused by this gunk that can be very hard to spot.   

 

  

 

Use a wet finger to touch the accumulated gunk at A and normally it will stick to your finger. Its stringy and so as you pull your finger away a little bit and around B towards your ears, it will pull the string off from your bottom eye lid. Your eyes feel so much better after clearing it away.   

 

C shows some of the gunk stuck between the bottom and top eyelid. I havent figured out how to clear it from behind the top eye lid but if you carefully blink a few times you can get it to sit along the bottom eyelid. 

 

 

 

  

 

 





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  #3173531 19-Dec-2023 22:43
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jonathan18:

 

Yeah, she’s similar in that they generally do SFA, especially at peak season like now. Thanks for recommendation re Telfast - would an alternative brand with the same active ingredient (at same potency) provide the same effect? This is $25 for 70 tablets vs $50sh for 30:

 

https://www.ibuypharmacy.co.nz/products/hayfexo-fexofenadine-180mg-tablets-70

 

 

I'd imagine so, worth a try at any rate (and I'm going to try and remember to try those too)!





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  #3173551 20-Dec-2023 08:47
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Many years ago I had a kidney problem for which prednisone was temporarily prescribed for 4 months.

 

I had much the same side affects as @raytaylor, but not the angry one.

 

During that time, all of my allergies, of which there are several, completely went away.

 

I was told prednisone is what asthmatics were given before puffers were invented.

 

After the prednisone was finished all the allergies came back.

 

I didnt particularly enjoy my time on prednisone, the insatiable hunger led to considerable weight gain.

 

You get a puffy face.

 

I learnt to take it in the morning so I didnt stay awake all night.

 

But wow, I had never breathed so easily in my life!





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  #3173622 20-Dec-2023 11:01
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Try Dymista. It tastes foul and is expensive but if you administer it correctly it should have no taste. This is the #1 treatment recommended by my allergy doctor if you have treatment resistant allergies. It is not Pharmac subsidised unfortunately but can be purchased over-the-counter without a prescription.


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I used to suffer from pretty bad sinus infections, someone recommend I give acupuncture a try. Had about 4 or 5 sessions, and haven't had a bad infection since. I have rinses twice a week and use Xlear spray if a bit stuffy. 4 years later so far so good. 


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Thanks, all, for the really helpful posts. I’ve passed all the info onto my wife for digestion, and ordered the Hayfexo (Telfast clone) which has already arrived today. She also spent ages completing a request form for a Wellington-based allergy clinic, only to be told after submitting that they weren’t running the clinic any more! (Then take down/amend the @#$#@ website, #@$@#ers.) She’ll take a further look at all the other product recommendations (but said a straight no to prednisone!). Many years ago she’s had steroid injections and reports it as being the only product that’s ever provided full relief. But she’s been recommended to not have it any more.

 

She has also had a skin prick test done before, but will no doubt need to get another done given it was many years ago; especially important if she does go down the path of immunotherapy which really sounds like it’s worth looking at.

 

I’ve not been able to find any immunologists in our home city, or even GPs that specialise in allergies - weird, given the pollen levels here! Are there any recommendations for anyone in Wellington? (We found the apparently closed Wadestown Clinic from this list; there are a few other Wellington names on there.)

 

Thanks once again.


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I get a steroid injection (Kenacort - A 40 it is from memory) once a year just as hayfever season begins. It lasts the entire season and I forget about it until the following year. Works far better than any anti-histamines, and with no side effects at all for me. Too easy.

 

If the injection is not suitable for whatever reason the following did stop the symptoms but had side effects:

 

The only antihistamine that used to make any difference is phenergan 25 mg taken at night (makes you very drowsy) but lasts the 24 hours. The problem with that is I struggled to wake up in the mornings and was drowsy for a few hours. Also, I became reliant on it to get to sleep after taking it for several weeks and it was a total PITA with several sleepless nights to adjust back to sleeping without it.

 

Otherwise psuedo-ephidrine was good to stop the nose running but became too much of a hassle when it became prescription only. Although apparently that is going to change back again.

 

I know just how miserable she must be feeling and how much of a distraction to normal life bad hayfever can be. Hopefully the above helps. Cheers.


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