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#152022 13-Sep-2014 12:27
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which one and why? (or suggest another one - pref wagon 4wd)

i need
- boot space
- long drive comfort
- doesn't break down for no reason
- cheap servicing
- go up ski fields
- regularly up/down hill when frosty

basically i need a range rover sport, yet much prefer an RS6, but can only afford a Proton




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  #1127790 13-Sep-2014 12:41
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Neither.

Get some Audi or BMW with xdrive.



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  #1127801 13-Sep-2014 12:50
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for that price I'd get a LR Disco Sport 2015




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  #1127832 13-Sep-2014 13:56
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Lots of things to think about here. The biggest is the declining support with Ford (Australia) shutting down production of it's large vehicles and Holden (Australia) scheduled to do the same.

In general a V8 will chew up more petrol than a V6 (Holden) or straight 6 (Ford) for no real gain, other than sounding good, so that may be something you want to think about too. I drive Ford (personally) and Holden (work) vehicles and have a preference for the way Fords handle plus they seem to feel a little more roomy than the Holdens, but at the end of the day, that's just my perception. I'd suggest you go to the respective dealers and arrange test drives.

I'm assuming the extra traction from rear wheel drive is a big factor here? Have you considered something like a Subaru Forester, or Outback? Obviously not as big a motor but is all wheel drive (even better traction) and would seem to fit your other requirements too.



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  #1127835 13-Sep-2014 14:01
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I have a 2012 x-trail and can't stand trips ... so tiring ... and not enough nm and kws ;p




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  #1127837 13-Sep-2014 14:05
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Dratsab: Lots of things to think about here. The biggest is the declining support with Ford (Australia) shutting down production of it's large vehicles and Holden (Australia) scheduled to do the same.


so that means increased maintenance cost? oh dear no good


In general a V8 will chew up more petrol than a V6 (Holden) or straight 6 (Ford) for no real gain, other than sounding good, so that may be something you want to think about too. I drive Ford (personally) and Holden (work) vehicles and have a preference for the way Fords handle plus they seem to feel a little more roomy than the Holdens, but at the end of the day, that's just my perception.


I want the sound ;p but I just read the mustangs are coming next year ... hmm ... how much markuping coz they cost less than a Toyota over there

I'm assuming the extra traction from rear wheel drive is a big factor here? Have you considered something like a Subaru Forester, or Outback? Obviously not as big a motor but is all wheel drive (even better traction) and would seem to fit your other requirements too.


no, kws and nms ;p




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  #1127848 13-Sep-2014 14:16
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Get a 2008+ Audi, Same price as a new ford or holden and much better.
You would be an ID10T to buy a new Holden or ford. Plus you said that you plan on going on icy roads.
You realize those cars have 250KW+ and spin their wheels on a dry road trying to move themselves.

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  #1127918 13-Sep-2014 16:00
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Go get a Hyundai sante fe or similar. I would personally avoid European if maintenance costs are an issue. Sounds like your usage would be more like an SUV of some kind. Both Holden and ford shutting up shop soon in Aussie. I wouldn't be buying a car made by a worker who knows they will shortly be redundant!




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  #1127920 13-Sep-2014 16:03
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  #1127922 13-Sep-2014 16:09
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I'd go for the Comodore, Purely because it's a holden but that aside, I've always found that if you want more pretty bits inside your car go for a Ford, However if it's power you're after get the holden :D.

Also if you're spending that sort of $$$$ I'd go for new not some used Euro.

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  #1127925 13-Sep-2014 16:09
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Toyota Highlander? 200KW in a mid size SUV should go OK.

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  #1127934 13-Sep-2014 16:35
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Highlander yes, Stay away from the Korean cars, Good luck to you after 50,000 KMS, They wear out fast and drive like bags of crap after.
Those who still think Euro cars are expensive to repair are stuck in the past when they were not as common and parts were hard to get. They are just as cheap as fixing a new Toyota if not some are cheaper. I did all the bushes in my E46 and it was cheaper than doing them for the Toyota Corolla.

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  #1127938 13-Sep-2014 16:54
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highlander ?
every generation has handled like a bag of pooz.

$50k-ish will get you a used range rover sport.
but best have a few quid tucked away for the inevitable repairs.

my pick would be a porsche cayenne.
much better built than any rr, faster and almost as capable off road.
lots to choose form for the price of a holden or ford.




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  #1127984 13-Sep-2014 17:46
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My dad just got a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (the V8 one) after after comparing it to the likes of a Commodore R8, Audi Q5, Merc SUV etc, huge step up from his VE Commodore R8 and it was much better value than the competition.

Its a beast, very quick. handles well and sounds awesome :P, not very good on gas as you would expect but very comfortable and he takes it up to the ski fields no worries.

this one here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LU2DjkiAI4

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he diesel one was good too (has air suspension which the SRT does not), over 1000km to a tank apparantly, but no comparison to a V8 :P

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  #1128021 13-Sep-2014 18:52
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joker97: which one and why? (or suggest another one - pref wagon 4wd)

i need
- boot space
- long drive comfort
- doesn't break down for no reason
- cheap servicing
- go up ski fields
- regularly up/down hill when frosty

basically i need a range rover sport, yet much prefer an RS6, but can only afford a Proton


Sounds like you want to consider a Subaru Legacy GT SpecB. You can even get it in a wagon body, so even more space. Plenty of power, plenty of space, awesome traction & handling. Similar price point to the Falcon XR6T, so cheaper than the Commodore. The AWD really does make a difference, especially in icy/snowy conditions, in my experience.



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  #1128027 13-Sep-2014 19:17
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this is going to be tedious - let me try to respond one at a time ...




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