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  Reply # 1138637 27-Sep-2014 10:25
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Just my two cents, a shame that our Police force do not place the same focus on safe driving as they do on speed. 



Would like to know more about why you think our Police don't target dangerous driving. Considering how often they run campaigns specifically targeting unsafe lane changes, crossing the centre line and failure to stop at red lights/stop lines etc. The Police have previously run huge campaigns targeting unsafe driving leading to people accusing them of trying to meet quotas or ignoring 'more serious crimes'. Can't win either way.


How often do you hear of motorist's being fined for unsafe lane changes, using the right hand lane when not passing? Certainly many more instances of speeding infringements.

The main point I am trying to make, we can learn from countries like the USA and UK, where more focus is placed on unsafe driving vs speeding.

It's often unsafe driving practices such as sitting in the right lane without reason, which causes frustration and results in drivers passing on the left or increasing speed to attempt to pass on the left.



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  Reply # 1138639 27-Sep-2014 10:29
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Just my two cents, a shame that our Police force do not place the same focus on safe driving as they do on speed. 



Would like to know more about why you think our Police don't target dangerous driving. Considering how often they run campaigns specifically targeting unsafe lane changes, crossing the centre line and failure to stop at red lights/stop lines etc. The Police have previously run huge campaigns targeting unsafe driving leading to people accusing them of trying to meet quotas or ignoring 'more serious crimes'. Can't win either way.


How many of these campaigns like speed control can conveniently be done from a stationary vehicle?

 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1138664 27-Sep-2014 11:03
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It's often unsafe driving practices such as sitting in the right lane without reason, which causes frustration and results in drivers passing on the left or increasing speed to attempt to pass on the left.




Just want to point out that it's perfectly legal to pass on the left in NZ.  Which is odd since another part of the road code says to keep left unless passing.

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  Reply # 1138693 27-Sep-2014 12:06
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Every now and again I will get an idiot driver cut me off or try and race me etc. Just do something intentional. I'll be a complete idiot in the safest way back to them. (Only when I have others in the car) I have had a few people follow me. One get out when I stopped to confront me. But found 3 others guys with me.

On my experiences nz drivers are useless. And aggressive.




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  Reply # 1138715 27-Sep-2014 12:28
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In New Zealand driving is a competition, most people are impatient and aggressive. I wish the police would try to find a way to help, but it's probably cultural.

We were in Thailand earlier this year, it looks like chaos but that's just because of volume. Drivers are generally polite and let other in and out easily.




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  Reply # 1138751 27-Sep-2014 14:29
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gmball: Why do NZ drivers feel the need to drive at considerably less than the posted speed limit in the far right lane while the left lanes remain empty?
Our left hand lanes remain vacant, just take a look at night...

Why when attempting to pass, does a driver in the left lane suddenly increase speed to match?

Why do trucks attempt to pass each other at speeds almost the same when a passing lane becomes available, only to hold up every other road user?


I'm a South African living in Auckland for the past year, and I ask myself these questions every day. The thing about it being some sort of a race when you try to pass everyone really gets to me, it's incredibly dangerous and unnecessary, if you did that in South Africa you would be shot. I don't know why people do it, it's some sort of game or something, also the driving slow on the fast lane is also incredibly irritating, people seem to think that it's a requirement to drive 20KM/h below the speed limit here.

Luckily I haven't had a problem on the road other than having to swerve out of the way of someone not following the road rules. Another thing is people on the road don't have patience most noticeably when you are in the city or in the wrong lane. It's been hard for me to adjust to how the roads are here and I make mistakes being in the wrong lane now and then but people don't seem to understand that not everyone knows the roads off the top of their head.

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  Reply # 1142863 28-Sep-2014 00:13
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I really don't think NZ has a very bad driving culture. I drive from South Auckland to West Auckland almost every day and quite a lot in addition to that. As well as for most road trips I'll be the driver. So I've seen quite a bit of stuff.

There are a lot of idiots out there, but there are WAYYYYYY more considerate safe drivers out there too. The idiots (people that go too fast/slow, don't pay attention to signs and stay in the wrong lane then try to cross 5 lanes of traffic in rush hour to make their exit etc..) are the ones that stick out and make the rest look bad. 

Of course you're going to remember the one guy who cut you off and nearly hit someone else, but you probably won't remember the nice guy that let you merge onto the motorway when no one else would. 




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  Reply # 1142867 28-Sep-2014 01:26
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In all my time I've never met anyone who has said they aren't a good driver.

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  Reply # 1142871 28-Sep-2014 03:29
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We are all brilliant drivers. ;)

Before embedding this video, I just want to say that this kind of behavior is just mildly irritating. And I am pretty used to it. Wouldn't have been posting this unless you guys were already discussing driving.

What is not seen in the video is that I am indicating early, and the cars are in a long queue, so not getting anywhere any faster. 



I am pretty sure the guy in the Ute thinks I was being fresh, but in my mind (and what I would have done in their situation) is let people in and don't hinder them when you are in a queue, seems to me like the right thing to do.




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  Reply # 1142876 28-Sep-2014 08:18
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Having lived and driven several thousand miles in the US they also have speed issues, but the roads are so large (as noted 4 lanes in most directions) there is plenty of room for everyone unlike in NZ we're we all fight over the same space on two tiny lanes. The left (right) lane is always empty except the cars passing.
NO ONE ever drives under the speed limit. Everyone seemed to drive a good 10-15 Mph (16-25) above posted limits on the freeway with a few going 20+ (30+).

The lanes in the US are also very wide in comparison to NZ, most of Auckland




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  Reply # 1142907 28-Sep-2014 10:55
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jarledb: We are all brilliant drivers. ;)

Before embedding this video, I just want to say that this kind of behavior is just mildly irritating. And I am pretty used to it. Wouldn't have been posting this unless you guys were already discussing driving.

What is not seen in the video is that I am indicating early, and the cars are in a long queue, so not getting anywhere any faster. 



I am pretty sure the guy in the Ute thinks I was being fresh, but in my mind (and what I would have done in their situation) is let people in and don't hinder them when you are in a queue, seems to me like the right thing to do.


I would of waited for someone to give me a spot instead of just going, but that's just how I drive, he was still a bit of an idiot for almost going in to you, can someone clarify something for me please, if the ute went into jarledb, whose fault would it have been?

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  Reply # 1142958 28-Sep-2014 13:35
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While the ute driver didn't flash the lights he appears to have allowed enough of a gap. Unfortunately if there had been a collision it would have been jarledb who "failed to give way while turning right".

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  Reply # 1142977 28-Sep-2014 14:00
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Bung: While the ute driver didn't flash the lights he appears to have allowed enough of a gap. Unfortunately if there had been a collision it would have been jarledb who "failed to give way while turning right".


While that may be true, just ramming someone is not going to be ok either. I would have guessed that the insurance companies would have split the blame if there had been a collision, and failing to stop when you can is probably not OK by the road code in NZ either. (At least it isn't some other places on this earth).




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  Reply # 1143008 28-Sep-2014 16:15
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Why do NZ drivers feel the need to drive at considerably less than the posted speed limit in the far right lane while the left lanes remain empty?
Our left hand lanes remain vacant, just take a look at night...



Possibly unrelated but personally whenever I go to wellington, at about plimmerton I like to get into the right hand lane and stay in there - then on the motorway stretches I just set the cruise control to 105.
Pain in the a$$ when you go through the george and its a downhill section with a stupid limit of 80

In auckland once I get off the waikato expressway I sit in the right hand lane until i get to spaghettii since my exit is usually for queen street or khybers pass.
Again, cruise control set to 105.





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  Reply # 1143009 28-Sep-2014 16:19
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jarledb: We are all brilliant drivers. ;)

Before embedding this video, I just want to say that this kind of behavior is just mildly irritating. And I am pretty used to it. Wouldn't have been posting this unless you guys were already discussing driving.

What is not seen in the video is that I am indicating early, and the cars are in a long queue, so not getting anywhere any faster. 



I am pretty sure the guy in the Ute thinks I was being fresh, but in my mind (and what I would have done in their situation) is let people in and don't hinder them when you are in a queue, seems to me like the right thing to do.


I would of waited for someone to give me a spot instead of just going, but that's just how I drive, he was still a bit of an idiot for almost going in to you, can someone clarify something for me please, if the ute went into jarledb, whose fault would it have been?


The cars there are queued up because there is a speed hump just off to the right of the camera.
Personally I would just go around the back of ahuriri and come from the other direction at busy times of the day - but I must say that is the most traffic i have ever seen on west quay.

You aint seen bad or arrogant drivers until you come to Hawkes Bay. They are nasty here.
Someone would kidnap your grandmother and hold her hostage just to get in front of you.




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