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  #1166837 2-Nov-2014 11:58
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joker97: Ah sliding doors! Now we're talking :D

Is Mazda Premacy reliable? vs Toyota Estima?

PS: easy to talk but I need to sell my X Trail first, easier said than done.


No problems with the newer one 2007 onwards, avoid the earlier model as it's like driving a brick and it's really small :-/ Prices are pretty good too.

 
 
 

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  #1166840 2-Nov-2014 11:59
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the premacy? have you owned one? thanks

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  #1166854 2-Nov-2014 12:21
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I had a '96 Estima for several years. It was reliable, economic, and a great car to drive. There are, however, a couple of issues to watch out for. First, make sure you get it thoroughly checked before buying. I'd include engine compression in that check.
Second, the water & thermostat system needs to be properly maintained. If the radiator needs repairs, get it repaired properly or replaced. Our mechanic poured some of that liquid seal stuff in my radiator, which was the beginning of the end for the vehicle. 
Lastly, be prepared to replace the cam belt every four years regardless of whether it needs it. These engines are vulnerable to being trashed if a belt breaks. 

Mine was a diesel and I don't know what difference there is to a petrol motor when it comes to the water/thermostat system. All models are prone to damage if the cam belt packs it in. However, in the scheme of things this ongoing maintenance isn't a biggie and despite losing an engine (and ultimately selling off for a fraction of its value to Turners when the repairs went very wrong) I would buy another Estima. I had the luxury Emina model with two sunroofs, hot/cold box and all the bells and whistles. It served us well. Shame about its sad end (mechanic's rip-off and dodgy work rather than the fault of the car).



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  #1166880 2-Nov-2014 14:21
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Depending on the application, consider an Estima hybrid in that price range. The Alphard hybrid has a good reputation also. There are several specialist sellers on trademe who can provide good advice.

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  #1166896 2-Nov-2014 14:27
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yes I was looking at Estima hybrids. they are pretty rare and so the prices are nearly double a non hybrid on spec for spec. might wait a while for a nice one

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  #1166898 2-Nov-2014 14:29
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The Mazda CX7 and CX9 are good but a tad expensive to run

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  #1166900 2-Nov-2014 14:30
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joker97: yes I was looking at Estima hybrids. they are pretty rare and so the prices are nearly double a non hybrid on spec for spec. might wait a while for a nice one


also they are in the region of 90-110,000ks. and around 2006-2009. so that makes it payone double for a car that's near its use-by date.

anyone knows the lifespan of the battery pack?



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  #1166902 2-Nov-2014 14:33
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I don't. The specialist importers usually do fair bit of testing and refurbishing before they go on the road so they can tell you all about it. Btw, they will often replace just a defective individual cell which is a bit cheaper than the whole thing. Dealer warranty also, but check that.

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We have a Mitsi Grandis Sportgear, 2.4l with switchable AWD.

Had it from new (delivery km's only) and the only trouble we have had was excessive tire wear, which has since been resolved. It handles well, has enough power even when the seats are all occupied, but the best feature is definitely the seating. The third row of seats will fit an average sized adult (I'm 6ft and have been in these seats before). The middle row of seats slides forward to allow proper step-in access to the third row of seats.




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  #1166969 2-Nov-2014 17:01
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Is the mitsi nz new?

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  #1167009 2-Nov-2014 18:18
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I am really surprised that there is no mention in the thread of a Mazda MPV (2006+). I have had a 2006 one for 4 years and for what it is it is a brilliant vehicle.

Seats 6 adults very comfortably

How old are you passengers? Need Car Seats and or anchor point access?
I have 3 kids with 2 in car seats

Downside of the Odyssey for car seats is that the anchor point teathers go from the middle row across the top of the rear seats making them unusable.

Insanely reliable as it uses the running gear from a 2.3L Mazda 6

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  #1167015 2-Nov-2014 18:27
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Yes I've considered the mpv, but didn't know much about its reliability

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  #1167058 2-Nov-2014 19:13
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joker97: Yes I've considered the mpv, but didn't know much about its reliability


Hmm MPVs are not my wife favourite ... 

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  #1167065 2-Nov-2014 19:23
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All cars in the early 90s do that!

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joker97: Yes I've considered the mpv, but didn't know much about its reliability


I have not had a single issue and the fact that it is based on the Mazda 6 which is one of the most reliable cars out there.
I am really picky about the cars I purchase and there is a lot more of them out there now since I bought mine.

Highly recommend taking one for a drive - Mine has the factory 18" alloys and handles quite well

Stay right away from the Pre 2005 old shape ones, completely different car.

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