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  Reply # 1311257 25-May-2015 13:02
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ScuL:
TonyR1973:

Having registration plates is not a part of the WoF requirements and never has been.


I'm talking about the compliance check not WoF


It's not a requirement for compliance or in-service certification. Vehicles are complied for dealers and put on the yard and only registered when sold.

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  Reply # 1311277 25-May-2015 13:09
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Well good luck on driving around without a license plate. I'm sure a police officer will agree the car is not roadworthy without one




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  Reply # 1311293 25-May-2015 13:30
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TonyR1973:
lxsw20: Which are not legal. 


Says who? Nobody seemed able to say where the requirement in the legislation is to even register a vehicle with the NZTA, despite the Judge's apparent assertion.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503450&objectid=11073625



So if you own a car, I take it you will be de registering it or don't register it?

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  Reply # 1311319 25-May-2015 14:00
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ScuL: Well good luck on driving around without a license plate. I'm sure a police officer will agree the car is not roadworthy without one


A plate or not doesn't make a vehicle roadworthy. Just, perhaps, non-compliant.

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  Reply # 1311328 25-May-2015 14:13
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lxsw20:
TonyR1973:
lxsw20: Which are not legal. 


Says who? Nobody seemed able to say where the requirement in the legislation is to even register a vehicle with the NZTA, despite the Judge's apparent assertion.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503450&objectid=11073625



So if you own a car, I take it you will be de registering it or don't register it?


What I choose to do is entirely my personal business. I'm simply discussing the matter and saying that just because the majority is assuming something needs to be done doesn't actually make it a requirement.

Can anyone here point me to legislation that requires anyone to register their vehicle with the NZTA? I've looked and I can't and it seems TPTB can't either...

 

"He wrote to the then police District Commander for Northland, Superintendent Mike Rusbatch, police prosecutions, Crown Law, Chief Justice and to the NZTA but none could point out specific sections in the relevant legislation that required him to register his vehicle to the agency."

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  Reply # 1311337 25-May-2015 14:27
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So you're arguing a point that you don't really believe in? Ok...

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  Reply # 1311374 25-May-2015 15:16
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"What I choose to do is entirely my personal business. I'm simply discussing the matter and saying that just because the majority is assuming something needs to be done doesn't actually make it a requirement.

Can anyone here point me to legislation that requires anyone to register their vehicle with the NZTA? I've looked and I can't and it seems TPTB can't either...

"He wrote to the then police District Commander for Northland, Superintendent Mike Rusbatch, police prosecutions, Crown Law, Chief Justice and to the NZTA but none could point out specific sections in the relevant legislation that required him to register his vehicle to the agency."

 


Part 17 of the Land Transport Act contains the relevant law:

243 Application for registration

 

     

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    (1) An application for registration of a motor vehicle must be—

     

       

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      (a) made by or on behalf of the owner to the Registrar in accordance with any regulations made under this Part; and

       

       

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      (b) accompanied by—

       

         

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        (i) the prescribed fee; and

         

         

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        (ii) an application for a licence for the motor vehicle

         

     


 

 

Registrar means the person appointed by the Minister to be the Registrar of Motor Vehicles, and includes, where appropriate,—

 

     

  •  

    (a) any person to whom the Registrar has delegated any of the powers, duties, or functions of the Registrar under this Part:

     

     

  •  

    (b) any person for the time being authorised by the Registrar to perform any specified function of the Registrar under this Part

     


You would then just need to find out who the Minister appointed as Registrar and any delegated authority from thereon.

 

 





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  Reply # 1311381 25-May-2015 15:36
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Xile: "What I choose to do is entirely my personal business. I'm simply discussing the matter and saying that just because the majority is assuming something needs to be done doesn't actually make it a requirement.

Can anyone here point me to legislation that requires anyone to register their vehicle with the NZTA? I've looked and I can't and it seems TPTB can't either...

"He wrote to the then police District Commander for Northland, Superintendent Mike Rusbatch, police prosecutions, Crown Law, Chief Justice and to the NZTA but none could point out specific sections in the relevant legislation that required him to register his vehicle to the agency."


Part 17 of the Land Transport Act contains the relevant law:

243 Application for registration

 

     

  • (1) An application for registration of a motor vehicle must be—

     

       

    • (a) made by or on behalf of the owner to the Registrar in accordance with any regulations made under this Part; and

       

    • (b) accompanied by—

       

         

      • (i) the prescribed fee; and

         

      • (ii) an application for a licence for the motor vehicle

Registrar means the person appointed by the Minister to be the Registrar of Motor Vehicles, and includes, where appropriate,—

 

     

  • (a) any person to whom the Registrar has delegated any of the powers, duties, or functions of the Registrar under this Part:

     

  • (b) any person for the time being authorised by the Registrar to perform any specified function of the Registrar under this Part

You would then just need to find out who the Minister appointed as Registrar and any delegated authority from thereon.




But that just says an application must be made by the owner (or on their behalf) and must be paid for and have the right paper work.
It doesn't say that an application must be made.

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  Reply # 1311794 26-May-2015 08:29
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But that just says an application must be made by the owner (or on their behalf) and must be paid for and have the right paper work.
It doesn't say that an application must be made.


You (and the person in that story) did not read the paragraph directly before the one you quoted.

242 Motor vehicles must be registered and licensed

 

     

  • (1) A motor vehicle must not be operated on a road unless the motor vehicle—

     

       

    • (a) is registered and licensed in accordance with this Part; and

       

    • (b) has affixed to it and displayed in the manner prescribed by regulations made under this Part—

       

         

      • (i) the registration plates issued for it; and

         

      • (ii) a current licence issued for it and appropriate for its use under section 244

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