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  # 1332761 27-Jun-2015 20:56
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Some sub models do not have the same levels of safety despite looking similar, two examples i can think of ZZ12x corollas, most jap imports only have twin airbags were some local models have 4 airbags, CL7 Accord Euro R's have nice recaro seats but miss out on side airbags afforded to the local models, no side airbags could altar the outcome in a t bone situation I'm sure

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  # 1332858 28-Jun-2015 09:10
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alasta: Kia Rio, $135. I just checked my records and it cost me $285 last year!


Same for my 2008 Ford Mondeo.




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  # 1332883 28-Jun-2015 10:16
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I can't even find the model of car I drive (must be an Australian unique model - HSV Senator) but the closest one I can find is $137.80 per year.  Compared to the $900~ I'm paying here, woah.

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  # 1332920 28-Jun-2015 12:43
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My Mitsubishi Mirage 1997 with two air-bags and ABS brakes is costing $238 for a year with the new rates!!! Why!?

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  # 1332931 28-Jun-2015 13:01
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dacraka: My Mitsubishi Mirage 1997 with two air-bags and ABS brakes is costing $238 for a year with the new rates!!! Why!?


I suspect that any care that needs a 6 month WOF will be considered unsafe in the eyes of the bureaucrats.




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  # 1332951 28-Jun-2015 13:33
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dacraka: My Mitsubishi Mirage 1997 with two air-bags and ABS brakes is costing $238 for a year with the new rates!!! Why!?


Probably because it only has 2 airbags and ABS. By today's standards that's pretty basic. New ACC rates are based on the safety rating of individual vehicles eg ANCAP or Euro equivalent safety rating. Nothing to do with age or 6/12 month WOF. Fact is simply newer cars are safer. NZ has old vehicle fleet by international standards, they are trying to incentivise people to buy safer cars.




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  # 1332968 28-Jun-2015 14:56
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dacraka: My Mitsubishi Mirage 1997 with two air-bags and ABS brakes is costing $238 for a year with the new rates!!! Why!?


Probably because it only has 2 airbags and ABS. By today's standards that's pretty basic. New ACC rates are based on the safety rating of individual vehicles eg ANCAP or Euro equivalent safety rating. Nothing to do with age or 6/12 month WOF. Fact is simply newer cars are safer. NZ has old vehicle fleet by international standards, they are trying to incentivise people to buy safer cars.


I understood they used actual crash data to decide which cars were safest.  We have two 1997 cars with very much the same safety features, one is a "2" and one is "3".

 
 
 
 


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  # 1332977 28-Jun-2015 15:11
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if you look at all the black ice crashes (my respects for the lost and resting) ... they were all those with no electronic stability program




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  # 1332978 28-Jun-2015 15:12
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i do acknowledge the rates are not based on presence of ESP but airbags which didn't do much when matched against a bus etc




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  # 1332983 28-Jun-2015 15:22
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They should charge even less for new models that have low speed collision control and lane guidance systems. But I doubt their systems are setup for those pieces of technology yet. Another good feature would be a warning when you are over the speed limit which some new cars now have built into the GPS. I think that sort of technology should be mandatory on new cars as it certainly helps.

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  # 1332984 28-Jun-2015 15:23
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I heard ESP is now mandatory for new cars is that correct?




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# 1333013 28-Jun-2015 16:56
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joker97: I heard ESP is now mandatory for new cars is that correct?
from 1st July mandatory on all new cars and new light trucks then progressing to all vehicles by March 2020.

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  # 1333061 28-Jun-2015 20:46
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ubergeeknz:
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dacraka: My Mitsubishi Mirage 1997 with two air-bags and ABS brakes is costing $238 for a year with the new rates!!! Why!?


Probably because it only has 2 airbags and ABS. By today's standards that's pretty basic. New ACC rates are based on the safety rating of individual vehicles eg ANCAP or Euro equivalent safety rating. Nothing to do with age or 6/12 month WOF. Fact is simply newer cars are safer. NZ has old vehicle fleet by international standards, they are trying to incentivise people to buy safer cars.


I understood they used actual crash data to decide which cars were safest.  We have two 1997 cars with very much the same safety features, one is a "2" and one is "3".


There's more to it than just airbags. It is based on how the car performs in crash tests, so how it is designed and built, as well as the technology that goes into the handling and stability.




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  # 1333099 28-Jun-2015 22:40
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ubergeeknz:
scuwp:
dacraka: My Mitsubishi Mirage 1997 with two air-bags and ABS brakes is costing $238 for a year with the new rates!!! Why!?


Probably because it only has 2 airbags and ABS. By today's standards that's pretty basic. New ACC rates are based on the safety rating of individual vehicles eg ANCAP or Euro equivalent safety rating. Nothing to do with age or 6/12 month WOF. Fact is simply newer cars are safer. NZ has old vehicle fleet by international standards, they are trying to incentivise people to buy safer cars.


I understood they used actual crash data to decide which cars were safest.  We have two 1997 cars with very much the same safety features, one is a "2" and one is "3".


There's more to it than just airbags. It is based on how the car performs in crash tests, so how it is designed and built, as well as the technology that goes into the handling and stability.


Not just crash tests; actual crash data.  How often are the cars in crashes, what rate of injury/death from the crashes.  All normalised of course.

It makes sense though.  The "safer" car is a Primera, the "less safe" car is a 626.  I know which I'd rather be in for the "moose test" let alone actually hitting anything.

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  # 1333563 29-Jun-2015 16:37
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@lucky015, @trig42
I just rang the ACC number (0800 222 776) about my 1998 r34 skyline category (cat 1).  I was told there's a known issue with the skyline grouping which they are rectifying.  They took my details and will let me know the correct rego fee once its sorted.
If you haven't already paid your rego you might like to give them your details too.

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trig42: $238 for a 2001 Skyline.

They have lumped ALL skylines in as one (from 1977 onwards). Bit unfair I think.

Getting rid of it shortly.


Same for my 2002 Skyline (V35)

Really seems like its been put together by some monkey with a blatant disregard for the difference in vehicle models and their relative safety features if it is the correct pricing.




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