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  Reply # 1438887 1-Dec-2015 21:21
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timmmay: "Hey, we're going to enforce the speed limit". Seems reasonable.


Assuming of course that the speed limit is set at a reasonable value.



That is irrelevant, the legal maximum is 100KM/H


So you support the idea of enforcing unreasonable laws?


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  Reply # 1438891 1-Dec-2015 21:24
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myopinion: I never go over 100 


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  Reply # 1438892 1-Dec-2015 21:25
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frankv:
MikeB4:
frankv:
timmmay: "Hey, we're going to enforce the speed limit". Seems reasonable.


Assuming of course that the speed limit is set at a reasonable value.



That is irrelevant, the legal maximum is 100KM/H


So you support the idea of enforcing unreasonable laws?



I comply with the law




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  Reply # 1438902 1-Dec-2015 21:35
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IMO it should be a 1kmph speed tolerance.

Stay UNDER the speed limit, not directly on it 

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  Reply # 1438903 1-Dec-2015 21:37
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simon14: IMO it should be a 1kmph speed tolerance.

Stay UNDER the speed limit, not directly on it 


Most speedos (not the type you wear) read higher than the speed you are actually doing on purpose

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  Reply # 1438907 1-Dec-2015 21:50
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Why are we having the same arguments *ahem I mean conversation for the umpteenth time?

It appears there might be three kinds of people
1. People who swear they never ever break any laws and any rules and any ...
2. People who disagree with the rules imposed for whatever reason
3. People who try to follow the rules
4. People who drive so fast the police never see them - and so laws like these are not meant to catch these guys

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  Reply # 1438917 1-Dec-2015 21:55
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keewee01:
timmmay: "Hey, we're going to enforce the speed limit". Seems reasonable.


But do you not find it interesting that it is only the road rules, in particular the speed limit (which collect revenue) that the Police regularly campaign on and not any of the other New Zealand laws (which coincidentally don't earn any revenue). To me this completely lacks credibility because of their lack of action across all other parts of their jobs except for where they really have to act. I am a big supporter of our Police, but IMO I think the powers-that-by as misguided on prioroties.


Seems more like a reasonable argument for a minimum $1000 fine for all infringements, speeding or otherwise.

I wrote to the Transport Minister to enquire why the fine for jumping red lights was a mere $150 - less than I spend in New World in a week - when it is a potentially fatal action. I invited him to install red light cameras on every set of lights in New Zealand with a fine of at least $500 for each infringement.

Response was some vagueness about 'looking into it' and 'reviewing the level of fines' IIRC.

I watched Highway Patrol earlier tonight and they pinched two car loads of absolute morons with a collective IQ of less than a whole number for racing at 148kmh on the public highway - and the drivers had the temerity to lose their tempers because their licences were suspended on the spot.

With di**heads like that being allowed to share the road with me and mine, I am more than happy for the Police to raise as much revenue from them as humanly possible.






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  Reply # 1438918 1-Dec-2015 21:58
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Geektastic:With di**heads like that being allowed to share the road with me and mine, I am more than happy for the Police to raise as much revenue from them as humanly possible.


The problem is that they never actually pay the fines because they have no money.

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Geektastic:
keewee01:
timmmay: "Hey, we're going to enforce the speed limit". Seems reasonable.


But do you not find it interesting that it is only the road rules, in particular the speed limit (which collect revenue) that the Police regularly campaign on and not any of the other New Zealand laws (which coincidentally don't earn any revenue). To me this completely lacks credibility because of their lack of action across all other parts of their jobs except for where they really have to act. I am a big supporter of our Police, but IMO I think the powers-that-by as misguided on prioroties.


Seems more like a reasonable argument for a minimum $1000 fine for all infringements, speeding or otherwise.

I wrote to the Transport Minister to enquire why the fine for jumping red lights was a mere $150 - less than I spend in New World in a week - when it is a potentially fatal action. I invited him to install red light cameras on every set of lights in New Zealand with a fine of at least $500 for each infringement.

Response was some vagueness about 'looking into it' and 'reviewing the level of fines' IIRC.

I watched Highway Patrol earlier tonight and they pinched two car loads of absolute morons with a collective IQ of less than a whole number for racing at 148kmh on the public highway - and the drivers had the temerity to lose their tempers because their licences were suspended on the spot.

With di**heads like that being allowed to share the road with me and mine, I am more than happy for the Police to raise as much revenue from them as humanly possible.



Thanks to your suggestion I found something to do tonight - watch Highway Patrol!
4 Nov episode - car was too loud coz it sounds too loud. No dB meter needed. "It was legal for the shop to fit aftermarket exhaust, but illegal for the owner to drive it." (the words of the officer!) Lucky I sold my car with an aftermarket exhaust. It was pretty loud! I was always wondering what the laws were around that.

EDIT: hmm Aussie show oops

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  Reply # 1438927 1-Dec-2015 22:13
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MikeB4:
frankv:
MikeB4:
frankv:
timmmay: "Hey, we're going to enforce the speed limit". Seems reasonable.


Assuming of course that the speed limit is set at a reasonable value.



That is irrelevant, the legal maximum is 100KM/H


So you support the idea of enforcing unreasonable laws?



I comply with the law


I was trying to avoid commenting on this topic for the lord-knows how many-nth time.  However this is it in a nutshell.  

If you don't like the law then by all means lobby your local MP and/or talk to your local roading authority about making a change. Speed limits take a whole lot of engineering and cognitive factors into account the average motorist wouldn't even think of, and it's all under review anyway (i.e. 110 km/h on some 5 star roads, and reduced speed limits on others).  However until that happens then all the Police are doing is enforcing the law.  They cannot pick and choose which ones they like and don't like to enforce, although some have higher priorities than others.

Drivers need to also appreciate there is a difference between collective risk and individual risk.  Most are only concerned with the latter (it's all about me!) while Police and roading authorities are focusing on the former.  

That's me, climbing back out of this black hole to nowhere.    

  




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  Reply # 1438938 1-Dec-2015 22:21
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My uniden LRD 850 definitely helps here

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  Reply # 1438941 1-Dec-2015 22:31
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alasta:
Geektastic:With di**heads like that being allowed to share the road with me and mine, I am more than happy for the Police to raise as much revenue from them as humanly possible.


The problem is that they never actually pay the fines because they have no money.


Easy. Every $100 outstanding after 28 days is a month in prison and your car is sold to repay the fines as well.





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  Reply # 1438943 1-Dec-2015 22:32
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Geektastic:
keewee01:
timmmay: "Hey, we're going to enforce the speed limit". Seems reasonable.


But do you not find it interesting that it is only the road rules, in particular the speed limit (which collect revenue) that the Police regularly campaign on and not any of the other New Zealand laws (which coincidentally don't earn any revenue). To me this completely lacks credibility because of their lack of action across all other parts of their jobs except for where they really have to act. I am a big supporter of our Police, but IMO I think the powers-that-by as misguided on prioroties.


Seems more like a reasonable argument for a minimum $1000 fine for all infringements, speeding or otherwise.

I wrote to the Transport Minister to enquire why the fine for jumping red lights was a mere $150 - less than I spend in New World in a week - when it is a potentially fatal action. I invited him to install red light cameras on every set of lights in New Zealand with a fine of at least $500 for each infringement.

Response was some vagueness about 'looking into it' and 'reviewing the level of fines' IIRC.

I watched Highway Patrol earlier tonight and they pinched two car loads of absolute morons with a collective IQ of less than a whole number for racing at 148kmh on the public highway - and the drivers had the temerity to lose their tempers because their licences were suspended on the spot.

With di**heads like that being allowed to share the road with me and mine, I am more than happy for the Police to raise as much revenue from them as humanly possible.



Thanks to your suggestion I found something to do tonight - watch Highway Patrol!
4 Nov episode - car was too loud coz it sounds too loud. No dB meter needed. "It was legal for the shop to fit aftermarket exhaust, but illegal for the owner to drive it." (the words of the officer!) Lucky I sold my car with an aftermarket exhaust. It was pretty loud! I was always wondering what the laws were around that.

EDIT: hmm Aussie show oops


The version I watched was mostly on the South Island.





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  Reply # 1438946 1-Dec-2015 22:42
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That's Highway Cops. Watching that now!

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Geektastic:
alasta:
Geektastic:With di**heads like that being allowed to share the road with me and mine, I am more than happy for the Police to raise as much revenue from them as humanly possible.


The problem is that they never actually pay the fines because they have no money.


Easy. Every $100 outstanding after 28 days is a month in prison and your car is sold to repay the fines as well.


are you happy for your taxes to go up to pay to keep these guys in prison? doesn't it cost about $80,000 a year per person, so what your saying is that for $100 worth of outstanding debt the tax payer should fork out about $6,500. Doesn't really work does it.

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