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  # 1458161 28-Dec-2015 16:35
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gzt:
What is the actual rule anyway?


(3) A driver, during the hours of darkness, must use the vehicle's headlamp or headlamps.
(4) A driver during the hours of darkness must use the vehicle's position lamp or lamps.
http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2004/0427/latest/DLM303647.html

hours of darkness means—

 

     

  • (a) a period of time between half an hour after sunset on one day and half an hour before sunrise on the next day; or

     

  • (b) any other time when there is not sufficient daylight to render clearly visible a person or vehicle at a distance of 100 m

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/2004/0427/latest/DLM302197.html

gzt:
The sunset rule makes it legal to drive with lights off during a partial eclipse ; ).


Unless it gets too dark to see 100m ;-)

(b) any other time when there is not sufficient daylight to render clearly visible a person or vehicle at a distance of 100 m

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  # 1458162 28-Dec-2015 16:38
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timmmay: To all drivers: indicates to signal your intention (3 sec in advance), not document actions you've already started taking.


THIS ohhhh so THIS!

What is it with people? Yes I can see you are turning, no need to put the indicator on when you do it. You are just wasting fuel at that point. The indicators are there to signal that you are GOING to do something, not that you are doing it. The later is OBVIOUS even without signalling. 




 
 
 
 


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  # 1458257 28-Dec-2015 21:01
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gzt: Nothing against silver cars myself. In some daylight overcast conditions they are harder to notice in peripheral vision or rear/side view if the lights are off and coming at ya out of the sky background.

What is the actual rule anyway?

The sunset rule makes it legal to drive with lights off during a partial eclipse ; ).


I think it's something to do with not being able to see clearly 100 metres away. One hundred metres seems to be the default distance for safety.

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  # 1458267 28-Dec-2015 21:27
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And the people in silver cars who use my driveway on my property [whilst they see people inside our house] to turn around rather than driving to the cul de sac 50m away at the end of my street yell 



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  # 1458351 29-Dec-2015 08:36
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xlinknz: And the people in silver cars who use my driveway on my property [whilst they see people inside our house] to turn around rather than driving to the cul de sac 50m away at the end of my street yell 




Haha - Only silver cars do this to you?

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  # 1458353 29-Dec-2015 08:39
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xlinknz: And the people in silver cars who use my driveway on my property [whilst they see people inside our house] to turn around rather than driving to the cul de sac 50m away at the end of my street yell 




Haha - Only silver cars do this to you?


If silver cars are hard to see, how would you even notice this?  




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  # 1458428 29-Dec-2015 11:39
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Since we are stereotyping silver car owners in this thread, I think we should go all the way and add 'blond' to the description.
 




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  # 1458429 29-Dec-2015 11:42
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Rikkitic: Since we are stereotyping silver car owners in this thread, I think we should go all the way and add 'blond' to the description.
 


The thread started in the right path, noting that a specific colour is hard to distinguish against the landscape/road backdrop. One or two comments didn't make it a stereotype. I wouldn't stretch it.

From an owner of a silver car who drives with lights always on (and idiots still pull in front of me when there's no other cars behind me, so why can't they wait?)







Hmm, what to write...
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  # 1458470 29-Dec-2015 13:08
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Funny thing is, most of the studies done on this show that Silver cars are not more difficult to see. One study (British Medical Journal 2003) indicated people in silver cars are 50% less likely to be seriously injured in a crash.

The Monash University study results:

 

The result compared white vehicles with all other coloured vehicles. MUARC’s research showed there were a number of colours related to high risk, including:

 

  • Black
  • Blue
  • Grey
  • Green
  • Red
  • Silver
None of the colours tested were statistically safer than white, though some had equal relative crash risk.


So.. we could blame silver cars....or we could stick with peer reviewed scientific research... and since this is Geekzone....

One last thought... I find those new "high Visibility" red Highway Patrol cars very hard to see compared to the normal white ones.





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  # 1458476 29-Dec-2015 13:25
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Muarc: The association between colour and crash risk was highest during daylight hours, the risk associated with the above colours during this period up by 10%. The link was reduced during darker driving hours due to colour being less distinguishable and headlights further reducing colour’s effects. Results also showed that environmental factors had an impact on the relationship between colour and crash risk."


Hmm, what to write...
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  # 1458480 29-Dec-2015 13:33
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gzt: Muarc: The association between colour and crash risk was highest during daylight hours, the risk associated with the above colours during this period up by 10%. The link was reduced during darker driving hours due to colour being less distinguishable and headlights further reducing colour’s effects. Results also showed that environmental factors had an impact on the relationship between colour and crash risk."



So at night it made no difference......

Almost a paragraph  worthy of an Ig Nobel by itself  




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  # 1458506 29-Dec-2015 14:21
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To the idiot driver behind me waiting at the lights by a railway crossing who beeped me as I didn't want to drive over the tracks as the queue at the lights would have meant my car would be stopped over the tracks, you then proceeded to overtake me on the left hand side while crossing over the train tracks when the lights went green and back into the right hand land... nice driving, I hope you got to your destination a whole 2 seconds faster with that manoeuvre.

His car wasn't grey though, I think it was black. What a chump.

Sorry, rant over.

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  # 1458508 29-Dec-2015 14:32
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There are so many of those morons on the roads it hardly seems worth mentioning.





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  # 1458531 29-Dec-2015 15:02
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Blurtie: To the idiot driver behind me waiting at the lights by a railway crossing who beeped me as I didn't want to drive over the tracks as the queue at the lights would have meant my car would be stopped over the tracks, you then proceeded to overtake me on the left hand side while crossing over the train tracks when the lights went green and back into the right hand land... nice driving, I hope you got to your destination a whole 2 seconds faster with that manoeuvre.

His car wasn't grey though, I think it was black. What a chump.

Sorry, rant over.


Same happened to me in Mana... I waited at the green lights because going ahead would mean stopping in the middle of the crossing. An idiot came behind, decided to overtake and then he proceed to stop in the middle of the crossing, blocking traffic. 

Idiots are idiots.

Bloody annoying too because police wouldn't even worry about ticketing this guy. 





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  # 1458568 29-Dec-2015 16:01
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Maybe the Darwin effect will do some self-correcting.





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