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  #2136417 29-Nov-2018 09:05
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jonathan18:

 

Bump - at the risk of bringing this thread back to its namesake, has anyone advice or recommendations for decent-but-affordable tyres?

 

 

I would go with ecopias unless there was a compelling reason otherwise.

 

 


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  #2136424 29-Nov-2018 09:38
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jonathan18:

 

Bump - at the risk of bringing this thread back to its namesake, has anyone advice or recommendations for decent-but-affordable tyres?

 

 

I would go with ecopias unless there was a compelling reason otherwise.

 

 

My wife loses her job (for the second time in six months) at the end of the year, so yeah cost is indeed a "compelling reason"!

 

I'll certainly look at these, but my understanding is they're fairly expensive hence why I'm interested in alternatives.

 

I've managed a similar transition from expensive Bridgestone Turanzas (RRP $500 a tyre) on my Mazda 6 to Nexens which were less than $300 - the car handles fine in both wet and dry, and I saved a good amount. I'm hoping to be able to do something similar with the Leaf, taking into account the additional ideal of low resistance (noting my earlier post that this is the one factor that I'm probably more willing to give on).


 
 
 
 


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  #2136653 29-Nov-2018 15:42
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You need to talk to a tire shop and give them your criteria. They will be able to match your expectations with a model of tire.

 

Good is a subjective term. What is good for you might be high Kms for low price, but good for me might be wet weather performance or low noise. As the price drops you sacrifice one or more aspects of the performance, and as one performance marker goes up, it is often at the expense or other aspects of performance. The key is finding the aspects of performance than are and are not important to you and matching those to a tire brand and model.


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  #2136755 29-Nov-2018 17:52
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jonathan18:

 

happyfunball:

 

jonathan18:

 

Bump - at the risk of bringing this thread back to its namesake, has anyone advice or recommendations for decent-but-affordable tyres?

 

 

I would go with ecopias unless there was a compelling reason otherwise.

 

 

My wife loses her job (for the second time in six months) at the end of the year, so yeah cost is indeed a "compelling reason"!

 

I'll certainly look at these, but my understanding is they're fairly expensive hence why I'm interested in alternatives.

 

I've managed a similar transition from expensive Bridgestone Turanzas (RRP $500 a tyre) on my Mazda 6 to Nexens which were less than $300 - the car handles fine in both wet and dry, and I saved a good amount. I'm hoping to be able to do something similar with the Leaf, taking into account the additional ideal of low resistance (noting my earlier post that this is the one factor that I'm probably more willing to give on).

 



Leaf tires should cost quite a bit less than your Mazda 6 tires as the width and circumference are quite a bit less.

Get a quote from your local bridge-stone, they seem to always run specials. When i replaced my corolla tires, it was going to cost me the same to get Turanza serenity plus or Ecopias, both cheaper than the tires I wanted and that I brought last time (GT Radial Champero 228, great tires). Went the Turanza route (decided long life tires would give me better value (and be better for the environment) than low roiling resistance tires)

Cross shop this against Hyperdrive & Trademe.

Could also get a another tire dealer to get you a quote for the GT radial Champero FE1 (this is a fuel efficient performance touring tire)


Some good deals on trade-me at the moment (Auckland based).


Bridgestone Pontza RE002's at $169 each, balanced & fitted (Awesome performance tires)
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-parts-accessories/wheels-tyres/tyres/listing-1852635348.htm


Used bridgestone ecopia EP150's 2 for $130 total. (could be a good option if you only need to replace a single axle. These tires were the OEM fitment on the leaf in japan. Allow $25 per tire for your local place to fit & balance). Be sure to check the date code, and condition if you go the used route.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-parts-accessories/wheels-tyres/tyres/listing-1852311183.htm?rsqid=cfed1366ff044fa4b2c7e365a0e9b044

Avoid very cheap tires. Very slippery in the wet, and I have had out of round issues causing steering shake before.



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  #2138355 3-Dec-2018 09:24
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We are considering driving from Warkworth to Eltham some time over Christmas in the Leaf. Being conservative with range - only estimating 130km, given there will be 4 people and luggage - and 30 minutes at each charger it's looking over 11 hours. Of course after the first time the charging will be slower than that so it's going to be quite the adventure.

 

Current route plan is Home --> (115km) Hampton Downs --> (85km) Hamilton --> (48km) Te Kuiti --> (125km) National Park Four Square --> (35km) Ohankune (due to big climb over the edge of the national park) --> (95km) Whanganui --> (87km) Hawera --> (19km) Eltham. The leg that most worries me is the 125km leg between Te Kuiti --> National Park. There are no chargers in between, and currently no alternatives with a shorter distance. There's less of a climb between Te Kuiti and New Plymouth, but the distance is longer and would be borderline even if it was just me alone driving conservatively.

 

The alternative would be to go Cambridge --> Tokoroa --> Taupo --> Turangi --> Waiouru --> Ohakune.

 

Anyone else attempted this?





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  #2138366 3-Dec-2018 09:51
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SaltyNZ:

 

We are considering driving from Warkworth to Eltham some time over Christmas in the Leaf. Being conservative with range - only estimating 130km, given there will be 4 people and luggage - and 30 minutes at each charger it's looking over 11 hours. Of course after the first time the charging will be slower than that so it's going to be quite the adventure.

 

Current route plan is Home --> (115km) Hampton Downs --> (85km) Hamilton --> (48km) Te Kuiti --> (125km) National Park Four Square --> (35km) Ohankune (due to big climb over the edge of the national park) --> (95km) Whanganui --> (87km) Hawera --> (19km) Eltham. The leg that most worries me is the 125km leg between Te Kuiti --> National Park. There are no chargers in between, and currently no alternatives with a shorter distance. There's less of a climb between Te Kuiti and New Plymouth, but the distance is longer and would be borderline even if it was just me alone driving conservatively.

 

The alternative would be to go Cambridge --> Tokoroa --> Taupo --> Turangi --> Waiouru --> Ohakune.

 

Anyone else attempted this?

 

 

If you use google maps and choose the "cycle" option, you get a elevation chart for the trip,  Te Kuiti-National Park is a 750m climb, - vs an additional 35km to New Plymouth... (the New Plymouth route has a couple of hills -Mt messenger stands out- but you should get most back on the downhill)

 

This site

 

https://saxton.org/EV/energyuse.php

 

claims an EV uses around 1.5Kwh/300m of elevation - and 1 kwh for 6.5km of highway driving (15kwh/100km) so 750 meters of vertical is equivalent to about 25kms of highway driving...

 

Based on that I would say the "sphincter factor" would be about the same on both the Te Kuiti- National park and New Plymouth legs,  

 

 

 

Taupo-Turangi- then National Park  might be the best option...

 

 

 

 


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  #2138395 3-Dec-2018 10:41
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Scott3:

 

Leaf tires should cost quite a bit less than your Mazda 6 tires as the width and circumference are quite a bit less.

Get a quote from your local bridge-stone, they seem to always run specials. When i replaced my corolla tires, it was going to cost me the same to get Turanza serenity plus or Ecopias, both cheaper than the tires I wanted and that I brought last time (GT Radial Champero 228, great tires). Went the Turanza route (decided long life tires would give me better value (and be better for the environment) than low roiling resistance tires)

Cross shop this against Hyperdrive & Trademe.

Could also get a another tire dealer to get you a quote for the GT radial Champero FE1 (this is a fuel efficient performance touring tire)

Some good deals on trade-me at the moment (Auckland based).

Bridgestone Pontza RE002's at $169 each, balanced & fitted (Awesome performance tires)
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-parts-accessories/wheels-tyres/tyres/listing-1852635348.htm

Used bridgestone ecopia EP150's 2 for $130 total. (could be a good option if you only need to replace a single axle. These tires were the OEM fitment on the leaf in japan. Allow $25 per tire for your local place to fit & balance). Be sure to check the date code, and condition if you go the used route.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-parts-accessories/wheels-tyres/tyres/listing-1852311183.htm?rsqid=cfed1366ff044fa4b2c7e365a0e9b044

Avoid very cheap tires. Very slippery in the wet, and I have had out of round issues causing steering shake before.

 

Thanks for your reply, Scott3 - there certainly are some good deals out there, and luckily that tyre is a fairly common size with many options (whereas my Mazda tyres are an unusual size). I'm not Auckland-based, so don't have quite the range or good prices here, but I do understand one can book and pay for local fitting when purchasing via Hyperdrive.

 

The tyre I've been looking at is the Goodyear Triplemax 2 - comes out pretty well in Consumer's test, with a fairly good rolling resistance - Beaurepaires is doing a buy one get one half price, which makes them $161 fitted per tyre (if buying two or four; compares to $204 a tyre from another store). Has anyone had experience with these?

 

As it happens, the tread on the Leaf seems to be ok for the moment - 4mm on three tyres, 3mm on one, and the car passed its WOF today without issue.

 

I assume I'm better to still looking at replacing them before they're at the legal minimum - but when should that be? They suggested at VINZ perhaps at the next WOF (we're doing less than 10k kms a year in the car).

 

EDIT: the reason I ask this is I am debating whether it's worth purchasing the tyres now even if it's for installation in a few months, as that's a pretty good deal; I guess it's a mater of how often this sort of deal comes up (eg, if as common as Bridgestone's 4 for the price of 3 offer).


 
 
 
 


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  #2138610 3-Dec-2018 15:11
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This site   http://www.jurassictest.ch/GR/

 

 would suggest that you would have only 4% left on your Te Kuiiti to National Park leg is very tight and i would not attempt.

 

This has assumed that your average speed is 81 km/h

 

 

 

 


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  #2138626 3-Dec-2018 15:42
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morrisk:

 

This site   http://www.jurassictest.ch/GR/

 

 would suggest that you would have only 4% left on your Te Kuiiti to National Park leg is very tight and i would not attempt.

 

This has assumed that your average speed is 81 km/h

 

 

And via that site, Te Kuiti is even worse... down to 1% ....


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  #2138905 3-Dec-2018 22:26
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jonathan18:

 

Thanks for your reply, Scott3 - there certainly are some good deals out there, and luckily that tyre is a fairly common size with many options (whereas my Mazda tyres are an unusual size). I'm not Auckland-based, so don't have quite the range or good prices here, but I do understand one can book and pay for local fitting when purchasing via Hyperdrive.

 

The tyre I've been looking at is the Goodyear Triplemax 2 - comes out pretty well in Consumer's test, with a fairly good rolling resistance - Beaurepaires is doing a buy one get one half price, which makes them $161 fitted per tyre (if buying two or four; compares to $204 a tyre from another store). Has anyone had experience with these?

 

As it happens, the tread on the Leaf seems to be ok for the moment - 4mm on three tyres, 3mm on one, and the car passed its WOF today without issue.

 

I assume I'm better to still looking at replacing them before they're at the legal minimum - but when should that be? They suggested at VINZ perhaps at the next WOF (we're doing less than 10k kms a year in the car).

 

EDIT: the reason I ask this is I am debating whether it's worth purchasing the tyres now even if it's for installation in a few months, as that's a pretty good deal; I guess it's a mater of how often this sort of deal comes up (eg, if as common as Bridgestone's 4 for the price of 3 offer).

 



I did a quick search on the triplemax 2 tires. Most of the stuff I found refereed to the orginal triplemax tires, not the "2" version. That said, it is a reputable brand, and they are unlikly to have made the tire worse, and the feedback on the original tripplemax was OK.

Couple of complaints on the aussie product review website about tires wearing out in cira 40,000km when people were expecting 70,000km... (these arn't longlife tires, tread wear rating is 360 I think)



It is really up to you regarding when you replace the tires. I have been through the same decision before. as you likely know, legal min is 1.5mm, but hydroplaning resistance starts dropping away under 3mm, and your odds of getting punctures increases too. So depends how big of a deal these things are to you.

For optimal safety and reliablity, swapping tires at 3mm is good practice, but this obviously comes at a cost, both financially and environmentally. (if the tire started with a 8mm tread depth, you would be throwing away roughly a quarter of the tires legally usable life).

Given the car is mostly used in town, the hydroplaning is a lesser concern. It is not really an issue at slower speeds, and motorways are generally porous surfaces that let water pass down through them.

Puncture resistance could be a bigger concern (given how all except the e-aussie leaf's don't have a spare), but generally such punctures are slow leaks that can be pumped up again with a $30 12V compressor for the car to be driven to a tire repair shop. If the leaf didn't come with a little compressor, you could consider getting one as risk mitigation. Again this is a lesser concern if the car spends most of it's time in town, as opposed to rural area.

I think given your use, and desire to save money, I would run the tires for another year.

If you want feedback on cheap decent tires, the EV facebook page could be a good place to try.




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  #2139648 5-Dec-2018 09:58
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The new Nissan Leaf Nismo

 

Thx to stuff.co.nz

 

 





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  #2139792 5-Dec-2018 13:11
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That is a Leaf I would purchase - though I would also purchase a 2019 version as well, if they were sold in New Zealand and I could actually afford a car


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  #2139797 5-Dec-2018 13:18
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IcI:

 

The new Nissan Leaf Nismo

 

Thx to stuff.co.nz

 

 

 

 

 

 

Judder bars would be terrifying........


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  #2141103 7-Dec-2018 11:24
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I am now a proud owner of a 2018 Nissan Leaf (new shape) in white ..

 

Just a shame it was purchased for $3 at the Warehouse and comes on a Matchbox card ...


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  #2141104 7-Dec-2018 11:25
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nzkiwiman:

 

I am now a proud owner of a 2018 Nissan Leaf (new shape) in white ..

 

Just a shame it was purchased for $3 at the Warehouse and comes on a Matchbox card ...

 

 

 

 

On the plus side it has greatly reduced lifetime carbon emissions even compared to other Leafs.





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