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  Reply # 1772828 30-Apr-2017 13:42 Send private message quote this post

Same as any other car with no spare - it has a can of goop that gets sprayed in through the valve to temporarily repair a minor puncture. Won't fix a major blowout though.


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  Reply # 1774471 2-May-2017 17:28 Send private message quote this post

I'm looking to buy a used LEAF and I checked out a Jap import Gen 1 at a dealer recently with 12 bars remaining, but Leaf Spy reports 82% SOH. I thought first bar disappears at 85%? Any reason why it wouldn't?

 

As an aside, it's had 1100 charge cycles (very few QCs) at an average of only 15 km/charge, which I guess is plausible. I'm just fishing for whether I should be wary of what Leaf Spy tells me, or wary of the vehicle itself! Any thoughts?

 

 


 

 



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  Reply # 1774855 3-May-2017 11:35 One person supports this post Send private message quote this post

Join Nz ev owners of facebook and post the leafspy results. Will catch more knowledgeable folk who may also give advise about whether price is reasonable.

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  Reply # 1775200 3-May-2017 22:00 Send private message quote this post

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I'm looking to buy a used LEAF and I checked out a Jap import Gen 1 at a dealer recently with 12 bars remaining, but Leaf Spy reports 82% SOH. I thought first bar disappears at 85%? Any reason why it wouldn't?

 

As an aside, it's had 1100 charge cycles (very few QCs) at an average of only 15 km/charge, which I guess is plausible. I'm just fishing for whether I should be wary of what Leaf Spy tells me, or wary of the vehicle itself! Any thoughts?

 

Something not right if the bars are 12 but the SOH is 82%. 

Are you sure it was the SoH (State of Health) and not the SoC (State of Charge - which is the current charge level, not the overall health of the battery). 






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  Reply # 1775206 3-May-2017 22:09 One person supports this post Send private message quote this post

I need to have more faith. 

 

Today I drove my 30kWh LEAF from Napier to Taupo for the 3rd time. I left Napier on 100% and hoped to get to Taupo without topping up. But I was also mindful it was 3C-7C (depending on exact location) in Napier and this time I had two people in the car and a boot full of luggage. 

 

I made it all the way to the Rangitaiki Taven just 39km from my destination...and the LEAF reckoned it has 41km left. 

 

That's a 2km margin. Not much.......but I *know* the run into Taupo from Rangitaiki is largely flat or downhill.....and you get very good efficiency.

 

My nerve failed and I stopped at the tavern for a coffee and a 30 minute charge at 16amp (Blue Commando) which added just 6% / 10km range. Insurance.

 

I needn't have bothered......again....as I arrived at the new Taupo fast charger (open just 2 days ago) with 16% and over 30km to spare. Without the 6% I would have arrived on 10%. Easy. 

I'll get it right the fourth time. :-) 

 

 

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 1775245 3-May-2017 23:07 One person supports this post Send private message quote this post

Definitely SOH. The amp-hour reading backs it up at 54.3. Rated capacity should be 66 Ah IIRC, so that gives 82%...




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  Reply # 1775267 4-May-2017 05:20 Send private message quote this post

darrenw:

Definitely SOH. The amp-hour reading backs it up at 54.3. Rated capacity should be 66 Ah IIRC, so that gives 82%...



Then there's something impossible about that 12 bars. You can't be down 18% and still have 12 bars.




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  Reply # 1775346 4-May-2017 09:01 Send private message quote this post

Linuxluver:

 

I need to have more faith. 

 

Today I drove my 30kWh LEAF from Napier to Taupo for the 3rd time. I left Napier on 100% and hoped to get to Taupo without topping up. But I was also mindful it was 3C-7C (depending on exact location) in Napier and this time I had two people in the car and a boot full of luggage. 

 

I made it all the way to the Rangitaiki Taven just 39km from my destination...and the LEAF reckoned it has 41km left. 

 

That's a 2km margin. Not much.......but I *know* the run into Taupo from Rangitaiki is largely flat or downhill.....and you get very good efficiency.

 

My nerve failed and I stopped at the tavern for a coffee and a 30 minute charge at 16amp (Blue Commando) which added just 6% / 10km range. Insurance.

 

I needn't have bothered......again....as I arrived at the new Taupo fast charger (open just 2 days ago) with 16% and over 30km to spare. Without the 6% I would have arrived on 10%. Easy. 

I'll get it right the fourth time. :-) 

 

 

 

 

Good story and glad it worked out well for you! But for a person with less experience than yourself (such as me) range anxiety would have dominated the trip! Now, if you had a BMW i3 with a 9 litre petrol range extender of 130km and a total range of 300km, then a trip of this distance would be a little less stressful? Second hand i3s (old model with total range of 250km) can now be bought for as little as $40,000 so are they now a realistic alternative to the Nissan Leaf?


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  Reply # 1775800 4-May-2017 18:16 Send private message quote this post

frednz:

 

Linuxluver:

 

I need to have more faith. 

 

Today I drove my 30kWh LEAF from Napier to Taupo for the 3rd time. I left Napier on 100% and hoped to get to Taupo without topping up. But I was also mindful it was 3C-7C (depending on exact location) in Napier and this time I had two people in the car and a boot full of luggage. 

 

I made it all the way to the Rangitaiki Taven just 39km from my destination...and the LEAF reckoned it has 41km left. 

 

That's a 2km margin. Not much.......but I *know* the run into Taupo from Rangitaiki is largely flat or downhill.....and you get very good efficiency.

 

My nerve failed and I stopped at the tavern for a coffee and a 30 minute charge at 16amp (Blue Commando) which added just 6% / 10km range. Insurance.

 

I needn't have bothered......again....as I arrived at the new Taupo fast charger (open just 2 days ago) with 16% and over 30km to spare. Without the 6% I would have arrived on 10%. Easy. 

I'll get it right the fourth time. :-) 

 

 

 

 

Good story and glad it worked out well for you! But for a person with less experience than yourself (such as me) range anxiety would have dominated the trip! Now, if you had a BMW i3 with a 9 litre petrol range extender of 130km and a total range of 300km, then a trip of this distance would be a little less stressful? Second hand i3s (old model with total range of 250km) can now be bought for as little as $40,000 so are they now a realistic alternative to the Nissan Leaf?

 

 

For that price I'd skip right past the i3 and get a Renault Zoe ZE 40 which has pure ev range 300km range

 

There was a really good site probably posted by Linux a while ago where you could select your start point, destination, and car used, and it would tell you how much battery you would have remaining. Does anyone know what is was?

 

I'll be so happy when I can get an EV for around $30,000 that can comfortably get me from Dunedin to Wanaka with at most a quick stop in Alex or Cromwell 


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  Reply # 1775865 4-May-2017 19:57 Send private message quote this post

P1n3apqlExpr3ss:

 

frednz:

 

Linuxluver:

 

I need to have more faith. 

 

Today I drove my 30kWh LEAF from Napier to Taupo for the 3rd time. I left Napier on 100% and hoped to get to Taupo without topping up. But I was also mindful it was 3C-7C (depending on exact location) in Napier and this time I had two people in the car and a boot full of luggage. 

 

I made it all the way to the Rangitaiki Taven just 39km from my destination...and the LEAF reckoned it has 41km left. 

 

That's a 2km margin. Not much.......but I *know* the run into Taupo from Rangitaiki is largely flat or downhill.....and you get very good efficiency.

 

My nerve failed and I stopped at the tavern for a coffee and a 30 minute charge at 16amp (Blue Commando) which added just 6% / 10km range. Insurance.

 

I needn't have bothered......again....as I arrived at the new Taupo fast charger (open just 2 days ago) with 16% and over 30km to spare. Without the 6% I would have arrived on 10%. Easy. 

I'll get it right the fourth time. :-) 

 

 

 

 

Good story and glad it worked out well for you! But for a person with less experience than yourself (such as me) range anxiety would have dominated the trip! Now, if you had a BMW i3 with a 9 litre petrol range extender of 130km and a total range of 300km, then a trip of this distance would be a little less stressful? Second hand i3s (old model with total range of 250km) can now be bought for as little as $40,000 so are they now a realistic alternative to the Nissan Leaf?

 

 

For that price I'd skip right past the i3 and get a Renault Zoe ZE 40 which has pure ev range 300km range

 

 

Yes, the Zoe is a very nice vehicle and would be a good investment. However, the new model BMW i3 has a pure ev range of about 180km - 200km with a further 130km provided by the range extender. When compared with the Zoe, the advantage of the i3 is that you can keep filling up the 9 litre petrol tank and the car will run using its electric motor for as long as you keep doing this!

 

I like this aspect of the i3 because it means that you don't need to charge the battery on a long trip at all if you don't want to. The only limitation of this is that you need to refill the 9 litre tank every 120kms or so if you don't recharge the battery. But with the Zoe, you would need to charge the battery every now and then on a long trip and are much more likely to experience range anxiety than you would with the i3!

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1776099 5-May-2017 10:06 One person supports this post Send private message quote this post

http://www.jurassictest.ch/GR/

Gives ev range



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  Reply # 1777490 8-May-2017 08:06 Send private message quote this post

frednz:

 

Linuxluver:

 

I need to have more faith. 

 

Today I drove my 30kWh LEAF from Napier to Taupo for the 3rd time. I left Napier on 100% and hoped to get to Taupo without topping up. But I was also mindful it was 3C-7C (depending on exact location) in Napier and this time I had two people in the car and a boot full of luggage. 

 

I made it all the way to the Rangitaiki Taven just 39km from my destination...and the LEAF reckoned it has 41km left. 

 

That's a 2km margin. Not much.......but I *know* the run into Taupo from Rangitaiki is largely flat or downhill.....and you get very good efficiency.

 

My nerve failed and I stopped at the tavern for a coffee and a 30 minute charge at 16amp (Blue Commando) which added just 6% / 10km range. Insurance.

 

I needn't have bothered......again....as I arrived at the new Taupo fast charger (open just 2 days ago) with 16% and over 30km to spare. Without the 6% I would have arrived on 10%. Easy. 

I'll get it right the fourth time. :-) 

 

 

 

 

Good story and glad it worked out well for you! But for a person with less experience than yourself (such as me) range anxiety would have dominated the trip! Now, if you had a BMW i3 with a 9 litre petrol range extender of 130km and a total range of 300km, then a trip of this distance would be a little less stressful? Second hand i3s (old model with total range of 250km) can now be bought for as little as $40,000 so are they now a realistic alternative to the Nissan Leaf?

 

 

As it happened, two BMW i3 cars made exactly the same trip on the same day. I topped one off to 100% myself the night before. Nice car. :-)  

They both arrived in Taupo on about 20%-21% - no range extended necessary....and that's the uphill run. I know my LEAF can do the downhill run to Napier and arrive on 25%. I done it several times now.....but the uphill run requires about 15% more power to climb from seal level up to Taupo level on the plateau.

The BMW i3 is a very capable EV even without the range extender. Certainly, anywhere within 200km of a fast charger is reachable without worry...with a handful of exceptions (Porter Pass and the few other very high, steep routes mainly on the South Island).   





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  Reply # 1777491 8-May-2017 08:09 Send private message quote this post

frednz:

 

P1n3apqlExpr3ss:

 

frednz:

 

Linuxluver:

 

I need to have more faith. 

 

Today I drove my 30kWh LEAF from Napier to Taupo for the 3rd time. I left Napier on 100% and hoped to get to Taupo without topping up. But I was also mindful it was 3C-7C (depending on exact location) in Napier and this time I had two people in the car and a boot full of luggage. 

 

I made it all the way to the Rangitaiki Taven just 39km from my destination...and the LEAF reckoned it has 41km left. 

 

That's a 2km margin. Not much.......but I *know* the run into Taupo from Rangitaiki is largely flat or downhill.....and you get very good efficiency.

 

My nerve failed and I stopped at the tavern for a coffee and a 30 minute charge at 16amp (Blue Commando) which added just 6% / 10km range. Insurance.

 

I needn't have bothered......again....as I arrived at the new Taupo fast charger (open just 2 days ago) with 16% and over 30km to spare. Without the 6% I would have arrived on 10%. Easy. 

I'll get it right the fourth time. :-) 

 

 

 

 

Good story and glad it worked out well for you! But for a person with less experience than yourself (such as me) range anxiety would have dominated the trip! Now, if you had a BMW i3 with a 9 litre petrol range extender of 130km and a total range of 300km, then a trip of this distance would be a little less stressful? Second hand i3s (old model with total range of 250km) can now be bought for as little as $40,000 so are they now a realistic alternative to the Nissan Leaf?

 

 

For that price I'd skip right past the i3 and get a Renault Zoe ZE 40 which has pure ev range 300km range

 

 

Yes, the Zoe is a very nice vehicle and would be a good investment. However, the new model BMW i3 has a pure ev range of about 180km - 200km with a further 130km provided by the range extender. When compared with the Zoe, the advantage of the i3 is that you can keep filling up the 9 litre petrol tank and the car will run using its electric motor for as long as you keep doing this!

 

I like this aspect of the i3 because it means that you don't need to charge the battery on a long trip at all if you don't want to. The only limitation of this is that you need to refill the 9 litre tank every 120kms or so if you don't recharge the battery. But with the Zoe, you would need to charge the battery every now and then on a long trip and are much more likely to experience range anxiety than you would with the i3! 

 

 

Careful there. The REX is for topping up the battery not using instead of. That wee generator won't let you do 100kph on the highway if your battery is flat. You might get to 80kph on the flat with no headwind and maybe 50kph on a hill. It can't generate the level of power required for "normal" speeds. It's for topping up the battery. 





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  Reply # 1781652 13-May-2017 14:33 Send private message quote this post

graemeh:

 

 

 

I didn't realise the RUC exemption was for the life of the vehicle.

 

Petrol cars pay the equivalent of RUC charges as an extra tax on fuel, that one of the reasons petrol is so much more expensive than diesel.

 

 

It's not for the life of the vehicle. As it stands right now, it's until 2020.....so just under 3 more years (assuming July 1st 2020)

....unless the policy changes. This government wants 64,000 EVs on the road by 2022. To get there they will need a lot more than RUC exemptions. There are currently just over 3,300.....up from 1051 in January last year. Growing rapidly and exponentially.....but is it sustainable without more support? I don't know. 

A new government after September 23rd might take even bigger steps......





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  Reply # 1781681 13-May-2017 15:41 Send private message quote this post

I think this was extended to 31st December 2021.


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