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  Reply # 1507669 7-Mar-2016 17:53
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surfisup1000:

 

Ahhh tesla (or whoever has the nz rights) demonstrated one at my kids primary school on Friday. 

 

So my 7 year old comes home educating me on the advantages of the electric car!!!!

 

Had I known, I'd have gone along too. Missed out.  

 

 

That is probably why you didn't know - wouldn't want a school full of parents





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  Reply # 1507766 7-Mar-2016 21:40
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Ahhh tesla (or whoever has the nz rights) demonstrated one at my kids primary school on Friday...

 

It will have been an enthusiast owner, doing it for free, with no association with Tesla.

 

Tesla don't have a presence in NZ and don't have dealerships or sell regional rights.

 

They do make it quite easy to buy one an Aussie, an grey import it to NZ (without needing to register it in Aussie, and get stung sales tax + luxury vehicle tax). Previously they were prohibitively expensive to get from Aussie. One of the first model S owners in NZ flew to Europe to pick his up from the European distribution center, for a road trip before it was shipped to NZ.


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  Reply # 1516606 20-Mar-2016 20:31
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I had a test drive of a Tesla S P90D in Sydney on friday .... most awesomeness car ever!!!

 

My old Lotus Elise is a Morris Minor in comparison for acceleration :-)

 

Now just got to list my kids on TradeMe and then I might be able to get one!

 

Interesting nugget of info from the sales guy ... they are more than happy to sell one sans the various Australian taxes etc but since there is no way to service the car properly in NZ the warrenty is void as soon as it lands here.


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  Reply # 1516664 20-Mar-2016 22:04
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  Reply # 1516930 21-Mar-2016 14:06
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Tesla S

 

- Actually not that expensive compared to petrol cars with similar performance (0 - 100 in 5si supper end).

 

http://www.autosnout.com/0-100kph-Times/0-100kph-in-less-than-6-seconds.php

 

- Comparable range to many petrol cars with similar performance.

 

- Battery swap could work like LPG bottle swap now.  Swap batteries, pay a fee.  Swap service provider checks and reconditions battery if required and carries associated risk.  If Tesla are smart they will make this cheap for swap service providers to encourage uptake. 

 

- Charging won't be as congested as might be thought if mass adoption of EV's occurs.  Most use of vehicles is short trip use, so at home charging will take car of that.  400km is usually 5 hours driving. Stop at a roadside cafe, buy a charge by the time you have finished lunch the car is charged. 

 

- I've seen several Teslas. I like the overall design but I have to say the external standard of finish is not great The finish looks dated e.g large panel gaps, clunky looking fittings.

 

If I had the money I would buy one ...





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  Reply # 1516980 21-Mar-2016 15:07
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eracode:

Like - wow!:


 


http://www.cnet.com/roadshow/pictures/insane-mods-for-your-tesla/


 



Well at least we could save on the 'magnetic number plate holder' option here.

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  Reply # 1517317 22-Mar-2016 02:37
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Sat behind the wheel at a small town car show yesterday here in UK. As close as I'll get. Still want.


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Who is legally in charge of your car when (e.g.) you summon it to pick you up? Or when it is driving you?

 

Is it legal to text whilst your Tesla is in charge?

 

Could a Tesla drive you home when you're drunk?

 

 


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  Reply # 1530103 11-Apr-2016 15:22
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These questions can be extended. Once a car is self-driving, it can potentially be remotely controlled. If you are drunk in the car, but your partner at home is controlling it from a laptop, who is responsible? I think these kinds of issues are going to cause future courts real headaches.

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 1530172 11-Apr-2016 19:01
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Rikkitic:

 

These questions can be extended. Once a car is self-driving, it can potentially be remotely controlled. If you are drunk in the car, but your partner at home is controlling it from a laptop, who is responsible? I think these kinds of issues are going to cause future courts real headaches. 

 

 

If there will ever be a remote controlled autonomous car, then the remote control ability probably would not extend to actually driving the car, just to choosing where it should drive to. The machine will be better at driving the car than a human being.





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  Reply # 1530173 11-Apr-2016 19:06
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frankv:

 

Who is legally in charge of your car when (e.g.) you summon it to pick you up? Or when it is driving you?

 

Is it legal to text whilst your Tesla is in charge?

 

Could a Tesla drive you home when you're drunk?

 

 

If we are talking today - then the automatic driving only works on well marked roads and on the motorway. It does not work well in city driving, and even on the motorway it can have problems. So the car will actually stop if you keep your hands away from the wheel long enough. You are supposed to have your hands on the wheel all the time.

 

You are completely and fully responsible for what you or the car get up to as it is today. 

 

For future self driving cars, I am pretty sure there will have to be some interesting legal work done to figure out how to deal with blame. Although I am fairly sure that the crashes will be because of human error and not because of the machine.





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  Reply # 1530269 11-Apr-2016 21:22
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What tesla have now is not self driving, it is just more fancy cruise control.

 

Self driving is when its like knight rider. Not just stopping when the car infront does and staying in lane etc.





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frankv:

 

Who is legally in charge of your car when (e.g.) you summon it to pick you up? Or when it is driving you?

 

 

 

 

Think of autopilot it as a flash adaptive cruise control with lane following & collision avoidance.

 

Compare this to a marine autopilot (Will follow a compass heading, or take you through a series of gps waypoints). Speed control & avoidance of other boats manually only.

 

Or an aviation autopilot (will take the plane on a preset route (incl elevation)).

 

In all the above circumstances the autopilot is simply an operator aid, to reduce operator workload. A skilled operator (driver/skipper/pilot) is required to be aware of the system limitations, to constantly observe the system, and to be ready to take over at any time in the event of either a system failure, or an event beyond the abilities of the system. (i.e. in a marine autopilot to alter course to avoid another boat)

 

 

 

In regards to summon this feature is quite limited. The car can be instructed to move up to 33 feet straight forward or backward at 1 mile per hour. Following criticism Tesla is going to add dead man control to this system (hold down a button or everything stops).

 

Remote control equipment (i.e. rail locomotives - stand beside locomotive near coupling point for better viability than in the cab, or cranes - stand near the load for better visibility and no reliance on spotters to observe load when sight-lines to cab are blocked)

 

I assume in terms of liability I think it is pretty clear that it is the person operating the equipment is liable.

 

 

 

Tesla has a vision (as do google and many automakers) of a car that is fully self driving i.e. only required destination inputted. When you allow unmanned vehicles to drive themselves with no observation the above will need to no longer apply.


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  Reply # 1530870 12-Apr-2016 15:11
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richms:

 

What tesla have now is not self driving, it is just more fancy cruise control.

 

Self driving is when its like knight rider. Not just stopping when the car infront does and staying in lane etc.

 

 

Or when you are in the coutry side somewhere in the middle of nowhere...

 

Russians have "invented" self driving long time before Musk was born. There is an old Russian Driver's joke:

 

- "Why your car does not have a steering wheel, mate?"

 

- "Does not need one. It can't get anywhere from that rut...", :-)

 

While trying to google appropriate image came accross that article:

 

http://www.odditycentral.com/news/russian-scientist-claims-ancient-race-drove-giant-cars-on-earth-and-the-tracks-are-still-around.html

 

Those ruts looks very familiar - being there done that, steering wheel is almost obsolete in ruts like those...:-)

 

You will always stay in the right lane :-)

 


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