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  Reply # 1562866 31-May-2016 10:47
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Anyway, bikers aren't paying more, they're just paying it faster wink

 

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Got the NZTA statistics to back those claims up nunz? I think if you take a look at the reports NZTA release you will be quite surprised. Off the top of my head I remember that motorcyclists are at fault roughly two thirds of the time.

 


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  Reply # 1562868 31-May-2016 10:49
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Anyway, bikers aren't paying more, they're just paying it faster wink

 

 

 

 

Oh I like that. I must remember :-)

 

 

 

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  Reply # 1562903 31-May-2016 11:29
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Got the NZTA statistics to back those claims up nunz? I think if you take a look at the reports NZTA release you will be quite surprised. Off the top of my head I remember that motorcyclists are at fault roughly two thirds of the time.

 

 

 

 

hmm - seems my stats are out of date. We seem to be following global trends with more crashes per million miles traveled than before 

 

http://www.webbikeworld.com/Motorcycle-Safety/motorcycle-accident-statistics.htm

 

But wiki shows that my assertation that my rate of chances of being hurt fall by almost 100% when I am over 40.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle_safety#Accident_rates

 

 

 

AND - in a multi vehicle accident (ie not just the motor cycle on it's own) 2/3's of the time it was the other vehicle (e.g. car, truck etc) at fault:

 

"  In the multiple vehicle accidents, the driver of the other vehicle violated the motorcycle right-of-way and caused the accident in two-thirds of those accidents. "

 

 

 

So again - if cars cause twice as many motor cycle accidents as cyclists themselves in a vehicle to vehicle accidents, why are we the bike riders pinged for it? user pays not victim pays.

 

Extrapolate this data to the increased use of bicylces and other alternative streams of transport as fuel prices rise, city congestion increases and if you still believe the old chestnut about global warming the requirement to reduce fuel use, then motor cycles should be encouraged - not cars.

 

 The iihs data is also interesting with larger bikes far less represented in bike accidents, then add in the type of bike and larger road tourers are far better than sports bikes, and a raft of other bike types.

 

 





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  Reply # 1562917 31-May-2016 11:35
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Because the motorcycle being there increases the chances of those accidents happening.





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Because the motorcycle being there increases the chances of those accidents happening.

 

 

 

 

so remove the cars - it will remove most of the accidents immediately.

 

 





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