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  Reply # 2074940 17-Aug-2018 17:01
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There website is:  https://evdrive.co.nz/


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  Reply # 2074952 17-Aug-2018 17:42
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If any of the cars were available and I could actually afford to rent a car, I would love to rent an EV to see what it is all about.
$769 for a Gen4 Nissan Leaf - sign me up right now

 

I've always want to lease a car .. never looked into it enough. I don't think I will be in a position in the next few years to actually purchase even a second hand "NZ New" electric .. 


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 2075113 18-Aug-2018 07:00
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nzkiwiman: ... I don't think I will be in a position in the next few years to actually purchase even a second hand "NZ New" electric .. 

 

I'm paying $520 p/m for my Gen2 2015 Leaf wich had 12000 on the odometer at the time of purchase. That ±$80 fuel savings per week nearly pays for the car.


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  Reply # 2075240 18-Aug-2018 10:58
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IcI:

 

I'm paying $520 p/m for my Gen2 2015 Leaf wich had 12000 on the odometer at the time of purchase. That ±$80 fuel savings per week nearly pays for the car.

 

 

Do you have 'fuel usage' data? Eg real world kWh per 100km? 


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  Reply # 2075262 18-Aug-2018 12:20
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Delphinus:

IcI:


I'm paying $520 p/m for my Gen2 2015 Leaf wich had 12000 on the odometer at the time of purchase. That ±$80 fuel savings per week nearly pays for the car.



Do you have 'fuel usage' data? Eg real world kWh per 100km? 



I drove my leaf Dunedin to chch return at just under 15kwh/100km. No real difference between eco and drive mode which I put down to flat terrain.

Wanka to Dunedin was 15 going up and 13kwh return.

Driving on Dunedin hill has me about 16 and 20 in winter because heater use.

I can look on flip the fleet to get national data.


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  Reply # 2075263 18-Aug-2018 12:20
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Delphinus:

IcI:


I'm paying $520 p/m for my Gen2 2015 Leaf wich had 12000 on the odometer at the time of purchase. That ±$80 fuel savings per week nearly pays for the car.



Do you have 'fuel usage' data? Eg real world kWh per 100km? 



I drove my leaf Dunedin to chch return at just under 15kwh/100km. No real difference between eco and drive mode which I put down to flat terrain.

Wanka to Dunedin was 15 going up and 13kwh return.

Driving on Dunedin hill has me about 16 and 20 in winter because heater use.

I can look on flip the fleet to get national data.


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  Reply # 2075316 18-Aug-2018 14:57
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afe66:

I drove my leaf Dunedin to chch return at just under 15kwh/100km. No real difference between eco and drive mode which I put down to flat terrain.

 

 

 

Eco mode isn't magic, it just makes it easier to drive in a way that is most economical.





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  Reply # 2076042 20-Aug-2018 10:18
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Tesla is suing Ontario, Canada for decision to stop rebates on EVs.  Tesla customers are more affected than anyone else because many of them will have their cars delivered after the cut-off date for rebates and because there are particular exemptions for cars supplied by third party dealers (soft landing for local businesses) but Tesla doesn't use third party dealers.

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/news/106344616/tesla-sues-ontario-for-pulling-plug-on-electric-car-rebates

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 2076145 20-Aug-2018 12:08
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Delphinus:

 

Do you have 'fuel usage' data? Eg real world kWh per 100km? 

 

In a 24KwGen2 Leaf I get approx 15 kw/100km on the hilly open roads, doing 100kph and overtaking the slow cars and 13 kw/100km around town and on the smoother flatter Auckland motorways. Over 4800kms I have used $200 in electricity and not used approx. $1050 in petrol driving in my 2L Ice, so saved about $800 in real money.


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  Reply # 2076149 20-Aug-2018 12:14
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tripper1000:

 

Delphinus:

 

Do you have 'fuel usage' data? Eg real world kWh per 100km? 

 

In a 24KwGen2 Leaf I get approx 15 kw/100km on the hilly open roads, doing 100kph and overtaking the slow cars and 13 kw/100km around town and on the smoother flatter Auckland motorways. Over 4800kms I have used $200 in electricity and not used approx. $1050 in petrol driving in my 2L Ice, so saved about $800 in real money.

 

 

Nice. is all of the $200 charging at 25c type of rates? If not, if you are lucky enough to access some free charges, or lower night rates, or Solar PV it can drop further


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  Reply # 2076164 20-Aug-2018 12:29
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MikeAqua:

Tesla is suing Ontario, Canada for decision to stop rebates on EVs.https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/news/106344616/tesla-sues-ontario-for-pulling-plug-on-electric-car-rebates



From the article: "Tesla alleges that since it doesn't use third-party dealers, the policy change discriminates against the firm. It wants the court to quash its exclusion."

It seems reasonable. The USA is well known for dealers lobbying for laws, even at the federal levele, which just maintain monopolies.

I would expect the same shenanigans in Canada.

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tdgeek:

 

tripper1000:

 

Delphinus:

 

Do you have 'fuel usage' data? Eg real world kWh per 100km? 

 

In a 24KwGen2 Leaf I get approx 15 kw/100km on the hilly open roads, doing 100kph and overtaking the slow cars and 13 kw/100km around town and on the smoother flatter Auckland motorways. Over 4800kms I have used $200 in electricity and not used approx. $1050 in petrol driving in my 2L Ice, so saved about $800 in real money.

 

Nice. is all of the $200 charging at 25c type of rates? If not, if you are lucky enough to access some free charges, or lower night rates, or Solar PV it can drop further

 

Yes all of the $200 charging is calculated at 24c per kw at home. Disclosure: I have used a small amount of Chargenet (paid 25c/kw and 25c/minute)  and some free fast charging so I have billed both at 24c on my spread-sheet as that is approx. what it averages out at: you don't dwell on paid chargers as long as free charged due to the 25c/minute charge. I don't try to save money by charging on the free chargers because it isn't worth the time vs cost. It takes about 40 minutes to fully charge, which saves only $4.60 at home and my time is worth way more than that. I looked at solar but it doesn't stack up economically or practically - 1) my car is at work when the sun is shining at home, 2) Car costs about $4.10 per 100km - so the potential savings are just too small to justify solar investment before you even factor in a power wall.


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  Reply # 2076241 20-Aug-2018 14:20
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SaltyNZ:

afe66:

I drove my leaf Dunedin to chch return at just under 15kwh/100km. No real difference between eco and drive mode which I put down to flat terrain.


 


Eco mode isn't magic, it just makes it easier to drive in a way that is most economical.



Yes I know.
Was mentioning that to preempt questions.
The Dunedin to chch was part of a small Dunedin based FTF study where we drove in eco one month and drive the next.
I've never been convinced it make huge amounts of difference which of the two basic modes you use. One pedal driving with aggressive regeneration may create more benefit.

(personaly driving in exo mode help reduce my hoon induced speeding)



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  Reply # 2078572 24-Aug-2018 14:43
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MikeAqua:

 

kingdragonfly:

Having immersed myself in Tesla's mainstream media-Twitter-Reddit-Owners Group news and analysis sinkhole, the only thing I can say with certainty about Tesla's privatization effort is that no one has an accurate idea of what's truly happening.

 

Quite possibly including Musk, who seems to be in desperate need of a holiday.

 

 

Agreed. He needs to be able to step back and take a break. He's been a work-a-holic for ages....but he's in his late 40s now....and you just can't keep that up. 

There is a reason sprints are only 100m......and not 26 miles. He's trying to sprint 26 miles. 





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  Reply # 2078580 24-Aug-2018 14:53
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On the subject of renting EVs, I signed up with yoogoshare.co.nz while at EV World in Auckland a few weeks ago. 

The following week I rented a BMW i3 (picked up at the airport in Chch, but there are 8 hubs in Chch) and used it for 3 days. The week after, I rented a Hyundai Ioniq for 3 more days. 

It was $421 incl GST (each 3 day rental).....but you don't need to buy any petrol and I drove it (BMW i3) about 700km in 3 days....so that's more than a full tank for most cars. It's not the cheapest rental, but these are awesome cars and zero emissions....and not that much more.  

You have an RFID card and to start the rental (booked via web or app) you just tap on a sensor at front-right on the car window. That unlocks the car and you're able to start it. To lock or unlock you just tap the card on sensor. It works really well. 

When you return the car you park it, plug it into the charger and than tap the charge with your card....and that ends the rental. You get an email about 1 minute later acknowledging the rental is complete. Your card then can't unlock the car as you don't have a booking. 

You don't have to rent the car for days. You might only rent it for an hour or two and return it to where you dropped it off. The basic price seems to be just under $15 / hour......but across days falls to just over $5 / hour. 

They are also launching in Auckland. They also do weekend specials that are much cheaper. 

Yesterday, I won a free weekend with either an BMW i3 or a Hyundai Ioniq. Looking forward to that. 

I've been frustrated by the lack of support for EVs from any rental car company other than Europcar, who do have a pair of VW e-Golf in each of AKL, WGN and CHC....which I've rented for 4 days and it's well worth the rental if you can get it sorted. You can't rent via the web site and the number at the desk in Chch (at least) may get bounced to a call centre who also can't rent it. But I did manage to break through those barriers and get a rental sorted. It should have been much easier. 

 

 





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