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#2114011 25-Oct-2018 18:27

Curious development; LG Chem has invested in an outfit developing a silicon-dominant anode.

https://www.greencarcongress.com/2018/10/20181024-enevate.html

"The composite uses carbon as a conductive matrix, silicon as the main active material, and silicon-carbide as a silicon-surface protecting nanometer-scale layer. The anodes are bonded with a proprietary process to the current collector."

My understanding was that silicon anodes expand too much and configuring them was difficult when they would swell up. It sounds like the silicon carbide helps get around this?

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#2114251 26-Oct-2018 09:21

MikeAqua:

Interesting video. So basically if Tesla knew how to build a chassis for production, they would be away laughing and the car would be lighter (even more range).

Speaking of the Model 3, Elon tweeted last night that RHD deliveries in UK and OZ (not word on NZ) will be available in "mid 2019"...

Given that they do appear to have squashed a large number of their production bugs it appears to be a realistic timeframe,

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesla-model-3-australia/teslas-musk-says-model-3-to-be-available-in-australia-uk-around-mid-2019-idUSKCN1MZ0JQ

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#2114507 26-Oct-2018 15:59

If Tesla knew how to build the body lighter, the Model 3 probably wouldn't be the safest car ever tested in the USA. Do you want light or do you want tough?

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#2117780 1-Nov-2018 12:04

http://autotalk.co.nz/news/jaguar-i-pace-deliveries-april

"Jaguar I-Pace deliveries from April"
by Geoff Dobson

"Jaguar I-Pace deliveries are expected to begin in New Zealand from April 2019, with the premium all-electric SUV pricing starting at $159,900.

It will be displayed for the first time here at the ASB Classic tennis tournament in Auckland, December 31-January 12.

'The I-Pace’s 90kWh lithium-ion battery delivers a range of up to 470km for a single charge – the equivalent of more than 14 days travel for the average Kiwi motorist driving 12,000km per annum,' Jaguar NZ general manager Steve Kenchington says.

'At the same time, the onboard powertrain provides 400PS and 696Nm of usable instant torque and with all-wheel drive as standard, the I-Pace can reach 100km/h in just 4.8 seconds,' he says.

Kenchington says local prelaunch demand has been exceptionally strong with dozens of customers purchasing a vehicle based only on reviews and respect for the brand in this market.

'With numerous industry accolades from around the world since it launched earlier this year, the I-Pace has already exceeded expectations globally,' he says.

'At the same time more than 50 deposits have been received from around the country, months before pricing details became available for this market.'"

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#2117808 1-Nov-2018 12:56

I've heard it's a casual $5k deposit...

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#2119857 5-Nov-2018 07:42

A very sad piece at RNZ this morning. SUVs - mostly diesels - make up 8 out of 10 new vehicles sold in NZ right now, and outsell EVs 64 to 1. More importantly, to meet our targets, 50% of everyone's next vehicle needs to be an EV, and for the other 50% it needs to be the one after that.

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#2119863 5-Nov-2018 08:38

SaltyNZ:

A very sad piece at RNZ this morning. SUVs - mostly diesels - make up 8 out of 10 new vehicles sold in NZ right now, and outsell EVs 64 to 1. More importantly, to meet our targets, 50% of everyone's next vehicle needs to be an EV, and for the other 50% it needs to be the one after that.

You really have to wonder how the market is going to be able to deliver that. Right now the Hyundai Kona and Ioniq are the only options available for under $70k. Let's be generous and include the upcoming Nissan Leaf and Kia Niro which will be released here next year - that makes four models in total. By comparison there must be at least a couple of hundred combustion engine models available in that price bracket.

Over the next few years it will be very interesting to see how we compete with rapidly increasing demand for EVs overseas.

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#2119885 5-Nov-2018 09:01

Norway is doing it. But different people and different government with different attitudes.

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#2119914 5-Nov-2018 09:12

SaltyNZ:
A very sad piece at RNZ this morning. SUVs - mostly diesels - make up 8 out of 10 new vehicles sold in NZ right now, and outsell EVs 64 to 1. More importantly, to meet our targets, 50% of everyone's next vehicle needs to be an EV, and for the other 50% it needs to be the one after that.

Well the tax system encourages utes because work utes dont pay fringe benefit tax but cars do. So instead of buying 4wd SUV you buy a 2 cab ute.

As an exercise, look at new utes you see round town for tiny business letters and contemplate whether that business really needs a ute.

I have two surgical friends both replaced business cars with double cab utes...

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#2119917 5-Nov-2018 09:17

afe66: Well the tax system encourages utes because work utes dont pay fringe benefit tax but cars do. So instead of buying 4wd SUV you buy a 2 cab ute.

As an exercise, look at new utes you see round town for tiny business letters and contemplate whether that business really needs a ute.

I have two surgical friends both replaced business cars with double cab utes...

Yes, that is one of the things they mention that has lead to the rise in sales of the ute compared to other vehicles, and it seems like a relatively easy loophole to close. But it doesn't address the wider issue of how we get people out of ICE vehicles altogether.

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#2119923 5-Nov-2018 09:25

I would have thought it would be relatively easy to amend the line that says no cars to no cars that emit co2 to rule out hybrids. That way the trades people that need utes still get the benefit while encouraging the car set to get ev.

If you want to encourage ev uptake, get rid of laws that encourage fossil fueled cars or at least give them the same benefit.

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#2119932 5-Nov-2018 09:32

We need perhaps to latch onto this

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/30/business/europe-lithium-electric-batteries/index.html

Includes "China's electric vehicle industry has mushroomed through companies like Warren Buffett-backed BYD (BYDDY) and Geely (GELYF). The country now has so many electric-car makers that some experts are warning of a potential glut."

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#2119944 5-Nov-2018 09:44

Yeah, maybe, but as the article implies without quite saying so, I'm not sure I'd be ready to jump to a Chinese-made car from a brand new company as I'd be worried about long term quality - kind of like Hyundais from the early 90s.

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#2119967 5-Nov-2018 09:59

afe66: I would have thought it would be relatively easy to amend the line that says no cars to no cars that emit co2 to rule out hybrids. That way the trades people that need utes still get the benefit while encouraging the car set to get ev.

If you want to encourage ev uptake, get rid of laws that encourage fossil fueled cars or at least give them the same benefit.

Amend the rules to force people to buy cars that aren't being made yet? Sure, no problems there.

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#2119970 5-Nov-2018 10:01

afe66: I would have thought it would be relatively easy to amend the line that says no cars to no cars that emit co2 to rule out hybrids. That way the trades people that need utes still get the benefit while encouraging the car set to get ev.

Because its not written that way, what it specifies are vehicles that may be exempt,

"An FBT liability won’t arise on any day where a vehicle provided to an employee is classified as a work-related vehicle.

It's important to note that not all business vehicles are work-related vehicles for FBT purposes. To qualify for the work-related vehicles exemption from FBT all four of the following requirements must be met."

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3. The exclusive design of the vehicle must be to carry goods, or goods and passengers equally. If the vehicle is designed mainly to carry passengers, it won’t meet this requirement.

Vehicles that may qualify:

• Utes (including extra cabs and double cabs).

• Light pick-up trucks.

• Vehicles with rear doors that are permanently without rear seats such as vans, station-wagons, hatchbacks, panel vans and four-wheel drives. This also applies if the rear seats have been welded down or made unusable because of a permanent fixture, such as shelving, covering the entire rear seat area.

• Taxis, including sedans and station-wagons (the rear seat requirement stated above doesn't apply to taxis).

https://www.ird.govt.nz/resources/f/a/fab9c941-c8b0-47c7-b7ee-40f4c25035b5/ir409.pdf

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