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wellygary
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  #2166314 23-Jan-2019 14:36
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clevedon:

SaltyNZ: We may or may not be awash in 'cheap oil' right now - if so, I haven't seen it; petrol is still around $2.10-$2.20/L around here - but the thing about oil is that a) it is going to run out, b) most of it is controlled by the most unstable, human-rights-abusive regimes on the planet and c) Mazda notwithstanding, most global manufacturing groups are going all out on EVs in the next 5 years. If Tesla went out of business tomorrow, that would be sad, but it isn't the end of EVs.


In fact, even Mazda is currently in a partnership with Toyota to exchange their SkyActiv engines for Toyota's hydrogen fuel cell technology.



 


Looks like there will be plenty of oil around for a while yet. The second and third to last paragraphs tend to sum it up.


https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/109903459/saudi-arabia-has-more-oil-than-the-world-may-ever-need



There’s another 300 billion barrels in the US too
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/US-Outstrips-Saudis-In-Largest-Recoverable-Oil-Reserves.html

tripper1000
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  #2166319 23-Jan-2019 14:41
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Yesh, Saudi Arabia being the last one standing with oil should even be greater motivation to wean our selves off it. Once Saudi is the last one with oil you don't expect them to give it away as cheap as they presently do, do you? Besides that is no excuse to keep burning it - we need oil for plastics and fertiliser for the foreseeable future. The simple fact is that there is already too many people on earth to be feed without synthetic fertiliser. You can be as organic as you like, it simply won't produce enough.

 

Saudi is rather like England of 18th century - it has a higher-than-thou attitude and is spending huge sums of (oil) money promoting religion (Islam) in the rest of the world including N.Z. This projection of their ideals, cash and stroppiness has caused issues in northern Thailand and is in part to blame for triggering the Rohingya refugee crisis. Not to mention the crisis in Yemen. Saudi, has shown no compassion for even their Muslim brothers, accepted no Muslim refugees from Syria, a conflict they fermented - they have pushed the refugees north into Europe and all the poor people drowning along the way are acceptable losses. Saudi Arabia is a pretty unsavoury world citizen who are only tolerated because of their oil.


 
 
 
 


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  #2166339 23-Jan-2019 15:21
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maxeon:

 

paulchinnz:

 

This thread probably as good as any @maxeon but perhaps now's the time to start a Tesla thread?? Akin to the Leaf one. Not sure if many Tesla owners in GZ though...

 

 

That would be awesome if we can discuss about Tesla only in a separate thread from fellow GZ members if there are a few. 

 

 

I am an owner - any questions about buying one, let me know - more than happy to help. More than happy to set up a separate thread if people want one? If so, a separate leaf thread should be set up by a leaf owner as well I guess?  Thoughts?


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  #2166346 23-Jan-2019 15:31
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There is a Leaf thread, albeit hasn't been labelled "owner". Perhaps that's the way to go, just separate Tesla thread, rather than for owners per se.


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  #2166353 23-Jan-2019 15:36
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dacraka:

 

maxeon:

 

paulchinnz:

 

This thread probably as good as any @maxeon but perhaps now's the time to start a Tesla thread?? Akin to the Leaf one. Not sure if many Tesla owners in GZ though...

 

 

That would be awesome if we can discuss about Tesla only in a separate thread from fellow GZ members if there are a few. 

 

 

I am an owner - any questions about buying one, let me know - more than happy to help. More than happy to set up a separate thread if people want one? If so, a separate leaf thread should be set up by a leaf owner as well I guess?  Thoughts?

 

 

Thanks. A separate thread would be awesome. I have a 2018 Model X 75D and do not have EAP or UHF sound. Had an option of trialing EAP and lost it now and checking with Tesla soon to see if I can have it now. 


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  #2166501 23-Jan-2019 20:35
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wellygary:
clevedon:

SaltyNZ: We may or may not be awash in 'cheap oil' right now - if so, I haven't seen it; petrol is still around $2.10-$2.20/L around here - but the thing about oil is that a) it is going to run out, b) most of it is controlled by the most unstable, human-rights-abusive regimes on the planet and c) Mazda notwithstanding, most global manufacturing groups are going all out on EVs in the next 5 years. If Tesla went out of business tomorrow, that would be sad, but it isn't the end of EVs.


In fact, even Mazda is currently in a partnership with Toyota to exchange their SkyActiv engines for Toyota's hydrogen fuel cell technology.



 


Looks like there will be plenty of oil around for a while yet. The second and third to last paragraphs tend to sum it up.


https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/109903459/saudi-arabia-has-more-oil-than-the-world-may-ever-need



There’s another 300 billion barrels in the US too
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/US-Outstrips-Saudis-In-Largest-Recoverable-Oil-Reserves.html

Carbon emissions + it's ugly stuff to deal with for maintenance and transportation. It's time we moved this kind of debate to a separate topic and keep this one for actual electric vehicle release and operation news. Hard to do in practice.

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  #2175141 8-Feb-2019 17:42
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https://wattev2buy.com/complete-list-2019-ev-models-best-electric-vehicle-buy/

A website called Wattev2buy

"Complete list of 2019 EV models"

"Judging from our list of EV models 2019 is going to be an exciting year for the EV sector as more vehicles with self-driving features enter the market. The adoption of electric vehicles will gain even more momentum due to the massive investment in charging networks and availability of more affordable mass-market EVs. Most automakers embarked on EV programs that will start delivering their first electric platforms this year."

https://wattev2buy.com/sae-levels-self-driving-automation-autonomous-vehicles/

Also has an article called "Definitions of the 6 sae levels of self-driving automation for autonomous vehicles."

  • Level 0 – No Automation: The full-time performance by the human driver of all aspects of the dynamic driving task, even when enhanced by warning or intervention systems;

  • Level 1 – Driver Assistance: The driving mode-specific execution by a driver assistance system of either steering or acceleration/deceleration using information about the driving environment and with the expectation that the human driver performs all remaining aspects of the dynamic driving task;

  • Level 2 – Partial Automation: The driving mode-specific execution by one or more driver assistance systems of both steering and acceleration/deceleration using information about the driving environment and with the expectation that the human driver performs all remaining aspects of the dynamic driving task;

  • Level 3 – Conditional Automation: The driving mode-specific performance by an Automated Driving System of all aspects of the dynamic driving task with the expectation that the human driver will respond appropriately to a request to intervene;

  • Level 4 – High Automation: The driving mode-specific performance by an Automated Driving System of all aspects of the dynamic driving task, even if a human driver does not respond appropriately to a request to intervene;

  • Level 5 – Full Automation: The full-time performance by an Automated Driving System of all aspects of the dynamic driving task under all roadway and environmental conditions that can be managed by a human driver.

 
 
 
 


kingdragonfly
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  #2175143 8-Feb-2019 17:50
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at 3 minute spot, cool headlight on the small one man 3 wheel EV. Market may be small in-city deliveries.



Electra Meccanica Solo 2.0


kingdragonfly
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  #2175636 9-Feb-2019 20:09
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Why Tesla Just Purchased An Ultracapacitor Company

"Tesla has a habit of acquiring companies that it feels will help it achieve its goal of accelerating the switch to clean, green, zero emissions transportation and energy.

So when it announced its latest acquisition - California-based Maxwell Technology -- we sat up and took notice, because Maxwell is known for its Ultracapacitors.

But what are Ultracapacitors, and what could Tesla want with them?"



kingdragonfly
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  #2176074 10-Feb-2019 20:08
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6668697/Audi-names-electric-car-E-tron-close-French-word-excrement.html

Audi names its new car 'turd': German firm's e-tron title is very close to French word for 'excrement'

  • German carmaker Audi's new electric car model is called Audi E-tron
  • The word 'etron' means 'turd' or 'excrement' in French
  • Social media users have called Audi out, but company has not responded

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  #2176632 11-Feb-2019 16:47
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New Mercedes AA+ Electric car

 

Read and weep. 





Regards,

Old3eyes


kingdragonfly
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  #2177287 12-Feb-2019 18:53
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Electric-Vehicle Market at 'Inflection Point in the US,' EVgo CEO Says
Bloomberg Technology

"Cathy Zoi, EVgo chief executive officer, discusses the growth in electric-vehicle offerings and the infrastructure improvements in the US needed to power them with Bloomberg's Emily Chang on 'Bloomberg Technology.'"

Bloomberg will only allow Youtube viewing, so click this link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA55DSF4N-E

kingdragonfly
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  #2181026 15-Feb-2019 17:04
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What Tesla Fans Should Know About The New Roadster

Business Insider


"In late 2017, Elon Musk revealed to the world the prototype for Tesla's next-generation Roadster.

Musk claims it will be the fastest production car ever developed.

Manufacturing for the supercar is scheduled to begin in 2020.

Business Insider's Tesla reporters are here to explain the most important things to know about the automaker's upcoming second-generation Roadster."


ockel
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  #2181232 16-Feb-2019 13:09
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I see that Ford will be introducing a 7.3L V8 engine to its Ute range in 2020.

Nothing screams save the planet like a 7.3L V8.

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  #2181236 16-Feb-2019 13:22
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ockel: I see that Ford will be introducing a 7.3L V8 engine to its Ute range in 2020.

Nothing screams save the planet like a 7.3L V8.


Is the gun rack in the back window standard equipment or an optional extra?




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