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  #2191383 5-Mar-2019 14:26
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Telsa is close to announcing model Y

 
 
 

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  #2191386 5-Mar-2019 14:42
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gzt: Telsa is close to announcing model Y

 

Next week, 14th, but announcing a car a shipping in volume are two different things, 

 

Tesla have only just got themselves out of Model 3 production hell with production hitting around 6K per week, meaning they have pretty much eliminated the "wait list"-  The big question is can they continue to sell 6K a week ongoing.....

 

Moving on to launch a new model seems like they are suckers for punishment....


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  #2191420 5-Mar-2019 16:20
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wellygary:

 

gzt: Telsa is close to announcing model Y

 

Next week, 14th, but announcing a car a shipping in volume are two different things, 

 

Tesla have only just got themselves out of Model 3 production hell with production hitting around 6K per week, meaning they have pretty much eliminated the "wait list"-  The big question is can they continue to sell 6K a week ongoing.....

 

Moving on to launch a new model seems like they are suckers for punishment....

 

 

The new Model Y is mostly based on the Model 3, so what they learned from that will be carried across to the new model, plus with the new China factory helping soon, it should be better!




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  #2191434 5-Mar-2019 16:42
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dacraka:

 

The new Model Y is mostly based on the Model 3, so what they learned from that will be carried across to the new model, plus with the new China factory helping soon, it should be better!

 

 

That's where the rubber meets to road,

 

if "based on" means shares 80% + parts and can be built on the same line, then they can probably swing it,

 

if the difference is more than skin deep and they need a new production line for it... that's a different kettle of fish

 

 

 

 


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  #2194532 9-Mar-2019 15:36
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Why Tesla Needs To Slow Down Its Constant, Relentless Price Changes

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"Tesla's primary mission is to accelerate the world's transition to renewable energy and sustainable transportation.

So far, it's done a great job, bringing down the price of its electric cars and causing many other automakers to follow with their own plans for plug-in cars and energy products.

But in recent months, Tesla's almost continual price changes and content switches has started to leave potential customers in the dust. And when large changes to policy or pricing are pushed with seemingly no warning, it's started to upset some existing customers.

To counter this, Tesla needs to slow its price changes down. Here's why."




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  #2194537 9-Mar-2019 15:46
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An exchange-traded fund (ETF) is an investment fund traded on stock exchanges, much like stocks.

Here's some good adive: never invest more than you can afford to lose.

She 'sdiscussing share prices. A bear market refers to a decline in prices. A bull market is when prices are rising.

This Tesla-heavy ETF is crushing the market this year


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  #2195198 10-Mar-2019 18:35
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https://cleantechnica.com/2018/06/09/100-kwh-tesla-battery-cells-this-year-100-kwh-tesla-battery-packs-in-2020/

"$100/kWh Tesla Battery Cells This Year, $100/kWh Tesla Battery Packs In 2020"

"One of the more interesting revelations to come out of the 2018 Tesla Shareholder Meeting was updated information about Tesla’s current battery costs and projected reductions over the next 2 years.

Battery costs, coming through cutting-edge cell chemistry as well as more efficient production processes, are a key differentiator in the race to enable EVs that achieve overall price competitiveness with combustion engine vehicles — at the cash register, not just over the ownership lifetimes of the vehicles. Batteries are equivalent in importance to the historical importance of having efficient and cost-competitive combustion engine technology.

It is well known that Tesla has the highest production volume and lowest cost of lithium-ion batteries in the world, but more detailed figures on these costs only emerge occasionally. This past week included some such figures.

A question was put forward by shareholder Joel Sapp, via twitter, during the annual shareholder meeting — “has Tesla broken the seal of $100/kWh?” Initially, Chief Technical Officer J.B. Straubel gave a polite, interesting, but non-specific answer regarding the current costs. Then CEO and Chairman Elon Musk took the microphone and answered as follows:

“We think at the cell level probably we can do better than $100/kWh maybe later this year … depending upon [stable] commodity prices….

[W]ith further improvements to the cell chemistry, the production process, and more vertical integration on the cell side, for example, integrating the production of cathode and anode materials at the Gigafactory, and improved design of the module and pack, we think long-term we can get below $100/kWh at the pack level.

Which is really the key figure of merit for a car.

But long-term meaning definitely less than 2 years.”


The broader trend

It’s good to see Tesla is still both well ahead of the competition on costs today and also still on track to keep improving costs at around 15% per year. The most recent cost indication we had was in early 2016, when Tesla said it was already under $190/kWh cost at the pack level. Transforming cells, via modules, into the whole battery pack typically adds 30% cost per kWh on top of the cost of the cells alone. Here’s the graph of Tesla’s battery pack cost trend line, showing significant cost advantage over the industry average, which is regularly tracked
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  #2196323 12-Mar-2019 09:27
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kingdragonfly: Why Tesla Needs To Slow Down Its Constant, Relentless Price Changes

 

Nope,

 

The company appears to be being run by a golden retriever that is currently running between two big buttons marked "put prices up" and "cut prices" while the board of directors appear to be shouting "good dog" constantly

 

We now have prices (ex 35K model 3) going back up again !!!

 

The carmaker said the 3% price rise would not apply to the new mid-market Model 3.

 

Earlier this month Tesla said it would close an unspecified number of stores to fund a cut in the price of the Model 3 in the US to $35,000 (£26,400).

 

It will now close "about half as many" stores - making half the cost savings.

 

The carmaker, founded by Elon Musk, said that keeping more stores open would require a rise in vehicle prices by about 3% on average worldwide.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47521940

 

 


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  #2196453 12-Mar-2019 11:30
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kingdragonfly: Why Tesla Needs To Slow Down Its Constant, Relentless Price Changes






Tesla's getting cheaper faster for people who don't own one yet?

I can't see the problem. ;-)

Most people understand being an early adopter is going to see this situation arise. How many people paid $1000 for a smart phone with specs that were $400 only 18 months later? (both hands up).

Harder with a car.......but if, on the day you order it, it was seen by you / me as "being worth it"......then it was worth it.

To be utterly fair, they could / should rebate anyone who ordered at the higher price and who hasn't received their car yet.





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  #2196460 12-Mar-2019 11:41
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Linuxluver:

 

kingdragonfly: Why Tesla Needs To Slow Down Its Constant, Relentless Price Changes




Tesla's getting cheaper faster for people who don't own one yet?

I can't see the problem. ;-)

 

 

The problem is that they aren't simply price cuts, they bounce all over the place,

 

 

 

So far in 2019 we have had the January price hike, when the 75Kwh options were removed (This added around 18K to an S- USD)

 

Then 2 months later in March we had the Model 3 announcement that saw reductions on prices on other models (pretty much reversing the January price jump) - Along with the  "we're going on line only"

 

Now we have had a 3% increase in model prices, (ex the 35K 3) accompanied with a "we're going to keep a bunch of stores"

 

I mean really does this company actually do any market research before it changes things,

 

 

 

 


  #2196462 12-Mar-2019 11:48
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Pricing is adjusted now from 18th March as they intend to keep some stores open for now and will review it.

https://www.tesla.com/en_NZ/blog/update-Tesla-stores-and-pricing

I have seen so much variance in the top end models but not so much on the lower end. I have a 75d x model and I don't see a huge loss on my investment if I end up with it for 2 or more years at least.

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  #2196482 12-Mar-2019 12:05
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I had a test drive in the Kia Niro EV ... rather nice, pretty quick and nicely featured ... just a tad pricey.


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  #2196522 12-Mar-2019 13:48
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I saw a back of the bus ad thrifty rentals advertising Ionic in NZ.

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  #2197069 13-Mar-2019 10:29
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A Australian review of the Jaguar I Pace from CarAdvice. The article is on the aussie spec mid range model, the I-Pace EV400 SE

 

https://www.caradvice.com.au/719985/2019-jaguar-i-pace-ev400-se-review/

 

The video below, also from CarAdvice is a review on the long term test model they have, another SE spec

 

 

They say they are going to be posting monthly updates while living with the I-Pace, the introduction story below.

 

https://www.caradvice.com.au/723675/2019-jaguar-i-pace-se-long-term-review-introduction/

 

 

 

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  #2198469 15-Mar-2019 10:59
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Tesla Model Y announcement today at 4pm

https://www.tesla.com/modely

Now they will complete their S3XY series... I wonder what else could be ‘in the wings’

Time for a Ute version?

Knowing Tesla, it’ll be an off-road 4x4 AWD and be able to do 0-100km/h in sub 4 seaconds. Automatic Sheep/Cow Hearding for an extra $3,500? 😂

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