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  #2278270 17-Jul-2019 13:14
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SaltyNZ: Also, 142g/100km is 37g/100km more than the proposed government fleet target of 105.


The only thing that will meet what you quoted is a fully electric or hydrogen car (I think you mean per km not 100km).




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  #2278271 17-Jul-2019 13:22
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Dingbatt:  (I think you mean per km not 100km).

 

 

 

Ahem, yes: well spotted.





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  #2278305 17-Jul-2019 14:08
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Obraik:

The VW I.D 3 has made it to NZ already.  It's been spotted in Queenstown:


https://insideevs.com/news/360148/vw-id3-spy-new-zealand/


They might have been doing some winter testing here, like Tesla did with the Model 3 a few years ago before it went into production.



Yeah quite common to see cars like that around there at this time of the year.

Many car manufacturers bring cars here to use at the Southern Hemisphere Proving Grounds (SHPG) often heavily covered up or heavily guarded.

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  #2278309 17-Jul-2019 14:17
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Dingbatt:
SaltyNZ: Also, 142g/100km is 37g/100km more than the proposed government fleet target of 105.


The only thing that will meet what you quoted is a fully electric or hydrogen car (I think you mean per km not 100km).




There's a lot of non EV's that meet the ever stricter UK standard.

Granted they are all EV's and hybrids.

Please see thread here for a long list of cars. It even includes a limousine

https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumId=184&topicId=251746

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  #2278314 17-Jul-2019 14:38
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kingdragonfly: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2019/06/20/britain-generating-electricity-zero-carbon-fossil-fuels-first/

Britain generating more electricity from zero carbon than fossil fuels for first time since industrial revolution

In what was described as an historic milestone, and a watershed moment, the amount of electricity coming from wind, solar, nuclear and hydro power overtook coal and gas by more than one percentage point at the end of May.

Coal and gas now generates 46.7 per cent of Britain’s power network, but zero carbon has pushed ahead to 47.9 per cent.

 

Which kind of begs the question... what are they generating 5.4% of their power from that isn't zero-carbon and isn't fossil fuels?

 

Cow farts? Firewood? Human treadmills?

 

 

 

 


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  #2278317 17-Jul-2019 14:49
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Shoes2468:
Obraik:

 

The VW I.D 3 has made it to NZ already.  It's been spotted in Queenstown:

 

https://insideevs.com/news/360148/vw-id3-spy-new-zealand/

 

They might have been doing some winter testing here, like Tesla did with the Model 3 a few years ago before it went into production.

 



Yeah quite common to see cars like that around there at this time of the year.

Many car manufacturers bring cars here to use at the Southern Hemisphere Proving Grounds (SHPG) often heavily covered up or heavily guarded.

 

One wonders if these are RWD IDs or AWD? The platform can apparently support both. 


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  #2278399 17-Jul-2019 14:54
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Co-gen? Waste heat from other industrial processes. It isn't truly zero carbon but it also isn't fair to label it carbon emitting because it is recycling waste heat and the same amount of carbon goes to atmosphere regardless of what you do with the surplus heat.


 
 
 
 


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  #2278430 17-Jul-2019 16:04
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frankv:

 

Which kind of begs the question... what are they generating 5.4% of their power from that isn't zero-carbon and isn't fossil fuels?

 

Cow farts? Firewood? Human treadmills?

 

 

 

 

Political speeches. They have enough hot air there to power a couple of small cities, but as we know, politicians run on lots of small green pieces of paper. This makes them neither carbon free nor fossil fueled.





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  #2278442 17-Jul-2019 16:32
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Speaking of the UK, they have a proposal law change that would mean all new houses must include an EV charger. They're also looking at a roll out of EV chargers into street lights for those that park on the street.

 

https://www.savemoneycutcarbon.com/learn-save/all-new-build-homes-in-england-will-have-electric-vehicle-chargepoints/

 

Both are things we should be doing here in New Zealand too.


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  #2278446 17-Jul-2019 16:43
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Your next car may be Chinese and electric

Quartz

"When it comes to buying and selling electric cars, there’s China and then there’s everyone else.

Quartz News heads to Shenzhen, home to the world’s second-largest electric vehicle maker (after Tesla), to see how the push for EVs could be a model for the future.

BYD, which stands for Build Your Dream is a Shenzhen-based car company.

The Chinese company, CATL, just became BMW's official battery supplier."


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  #2278603 17-Jul-2019 21:08
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OK, now this is an electric car. The new 1,970hp Lotus Evija.

 

 

 





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  #2278608 17-Jul-2019 21:25
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Nice

 

Still, if I had $1 for every time the fourth estate fell over itself with some news about an exciting new EV that I can't buy and drive away tomorrow, I'd probably have enough to buy the 2020 Roadster


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  #2279425 19-Jul-2019 08:16
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Obraik:

 

Speaking of the UK, they have a proposal law change that would mean all new houses must include an EV charger. They're also looking at a roll out of EV chargers into street lights for those that park on the street.

 

https://www.savemoneycutcarbon.com/learn-save/all-new-build-homes-in-england-will-have-electric-vehicle-chargepoints/

 

Both are things we should be doing here in New Zealand too.

 

 

 

 

The side effect of course, is to make housing even more unaffordable. We also have a group pushing for all new houses to have rainwater tanks (to which councils will have a field day charging annual inspection fees) made mandatory, along with solar panels for roofs etc.


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  #2279429 19-Jul-2019 08:26
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wsnz:

 

Obraik:

 

Speaking of the UK, they have a proposal law change that would mean all new houses must include an EV charger. They're also looking at a roll out of EV chargers into street lights for those that park on the street.

 

https://www.savemoneycutcarbon.com/learn-save/all-new-build-homes-in-england-will-have-electric-vehicle-chargepoints/

 

Both are things we should be doing here in New Zealand too.

 

 

 

 

The side effect of course, is to make housing even more unaffordable. We also have a group pushing for all new houses to have rainwater tanks (to which councils will have a field day charging annual inspection fees) made mandatory, along with solar panels for roofs etc.

 

 

Agree, you can go overboard with all these great ideas and waste a huge amount of money doing so. There is too much frenetic excitement to make proper decisions, then when some ideas are only 80% met, the world ends


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  #2279464 19-Jul-2019 09:54
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wsnz:

 

The side effect of course, is to make housing even more unaffordable. We also have a group pushing for all new houses to have rainwater tanks (to which councils will have a field day charging annual inspection fees) made mandatory, along with solar panels for roofs etc.

 

 

A charger isn't that expensive. It's also cheaper and easier to put the 32A cabling in while the house is being built rather than having to do it post-build.


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