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  #2323132 23-Sep-2019 08:21
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In the subject of EVs with solar panels, there is also the Lightyear One.

Range is projected at 715km WLTP. Sunlight can add 12km range / hour. Power consumption is 85Wh / km - about half of a Tesla Model 3. A Nissan LEAF is about 140Wh /km.

It won't be cheap to start though. It starts at €119,000 (excl VAT).

https://lightyear.one/lightyear-one/




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  #2323169 23-Sep-2019 09:08
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Linuxluver:

 

Sunlight can add 12km range / hour.

 

 

 

That sounds quite incredible. Conservative driving in my Leaf gets me ~7km/kWh. With a 700km+ range I'm going to assume the car has a much bigger battery than a Leaf and is therefore heavier (so gets worse km/kWh) but let's go with 7 for the thought experiment. 12km / hr means 1.7kWh / hr, i.e. 1.7kW of electricity from solar. Absolute best case for full sunshine you're looking at ~1kW/sq. metre, and with 20% efficiency from the panel that 5 square metres of solar.

 

The car is ~5mx1.9m so it has a bit less than 6 square metres top-down area ... yes, maybe that is correct. Nice! Still... in practice you will get much less than that as the panels will never be optimally positioned so I'm still not sure it is really worth the expense.





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  #2323237 23-Sep-2019 10:55
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SaltyNZ:

Linuxluver:


Sunlight can add 12km range / hour.


 


That sounds quite incredible. Conservative driving in my Leaf gets me ~7km/kWh. With a 700km+ range I'm going to assume the car has a much bigger battery than a Leaf and is therefore heavier (so gets worse km/kWh) but let's go with 7 for the thought experiment. 12km / hr means 1.7kWh / hr, i.e. 1.7kW of electricity from solar. Absolute best case for full sunshine you're looking at ~1kW/sq. metre, and with 20% efficiency from the panel that 5 square metres of solar.


The car is ~5mx1.9m so it has a bit less than 6 square metres top-down area ... yes, maybe that is correct. Nice! Still... in practice you will get much less than that as the panels will never be optimally positioned so I'm still not sure it is really worth the expense.



Check the specs on the web site. The Lightyear One is very light and very aerodynamic.

Reduced weight
Solar roof and hood
Low aerodynamic drag
Our engineers found the balance of using lighter building materials like aluminium and carbon fiber while maintaining rigorous safety standards. The result is a car that is less heavy, consumes less energy and has an exceptional range."




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  #2324194 24-Sep-2019 20:27
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This is interesting: Circle K (gas station chain) in Norway have started to remove gas pumps and installing fast chargers.

 

Many places they are just adding the chargers, but some places they are actually removing gas pumps to install new fast chargers.

 

Norway has passed 250,000 electric cars now.


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  #2324220 24-Sep-2019 22:01
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jarledb:

 

This is interesting: Circle K (gas station chain) in Norway have started to remove gas pumps and installing fast chargers.

 

Many places they are just adding the chargers, but some places they are actually removing gas pumps to install new fast chargers.

 

Norway has passed 250,000 electric cars now.

 

 

A window into our future. Auckland may go first as half the EVs in the country are in Auckland. Though.....small numbers compared to all the OTHER cars in Auckland. :-) 

Maybe a smaller town (neighbourhood?) with more affluent people and a higher proportion of EVs. Maybe Remuera?





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  #2325543 26-Sep-2019 20:05
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Electric vehicles Database

Nice database of 74 EV's. European oriented. Searchable.

Includes sections like "newest & upcoming", "cheapest", "most efficient" "quickest", "longest range"

https://ev-database.org/

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  #2325607 26-Sep-2019 21:50
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jarledb:

This is interesting: Circle K (gas station chain) in Norway have started to remove gas pumps and installing fast chargers.


Many places they are just adding the chargers, but some places they are actually removing gas pumps to install new fast chargers.


Norway has passed 250,000 electric cars now.



I wish people would stop holding Norway up as a beacon of how to do things when the sovereign wealth fund used to subsidize all the electrification is mainly funded by selling oil and gas to Europe.
It's like Pharmac selling heroin to pay for cancer drugs.




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  #2325646 26-Sep-2019 23:09
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Dingbatt:

 

I wish people would stop holding Norway up as a beacon of how to do things when the sovereign wealth fund used to subsidize all the electrification is mainly funded by selling oil and gas to Europe.
It's like Pharmac selling heroin to pay for cancer drugs.

 

Its not that simple. To start with, Norway does not use a lot of the oil fund. The spending is restricted to 4% of the dividends from the fund. The official name for it is "Government Pension Fund of Norway" and its primary purpose is to deal with pensions.

 

The reason Norway is doing so well when it comes to electric cars are:

 

1) Taxes on regular cars are very high in Norway. In addition to GST of 25%, there is also a tax that is based on the size of the motor, weight of the car and the CO2 emissions.

 

2) The incentives for the electric cars are: No tax what so ever, no GST (Well, they have a GST of 0%, which makes it easy to change it whenever they want) and no other taxes.

 

3) The electric cars don't have to pay the very high toll rate to get into the city centres.

 

4) The electric cars have access to the bus lanes and can get quicker into the cities. (This is changing, and some access have been removed and other places they require there to be at least 2 people in the car to have access to the lanes).

 

 


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  #2325713 27-Sep-2019 09:09
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Norway is selling twilight technology to buy technology of the future. I think Norway is quite clever in that regard. They are consciously building a future - something NZ Govt's would do well to learn from. We could also sell oil (or iron sand) or any number of things to buy a future, but our environmental movement don't seem to realise that ideals and dreams cost money. They seem to have a Terra Nullius model of perfection for N.Z.

 

Oh well, once the environmentalists get their way and NZ'ers flea this land as economic refugees, all those resources will still be there for the future occupiers of this land. Looks likely to be the Chinese at this stage of the game. 

 

 


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  #2325737 27-Sep-2019 09:39
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tripper1000:

 

Norway is selling twilight technology to buy technology of the future. I think Norway is quite clever in that regard. They are consciously building a future - something NZ Govt's would do well to learn from. We could also sell oil (or iron sand) or any number of things to buy a future, but our environmental movement don't seem to realise that ideals and dreams cost money. They seem to have a Terra Nullius model of perfection for N.Z.

 

 

I think the key point is what I've bolded from your quote. Buying and planning for the future. The problem I see in NZ is there is no plan. Fossil fuel extraction happens purely for the revenue without putting any $ aside for low carbon transitions. Norway is using their oil revenue wisely for a low carbon transition. NZ (and many other countries) are not.


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Linuxluver:
SaltyNZ:

 

Linuxluver:

 

 

 

Sunlight can add 12km range / hour.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That sounds quite incredible. Conservative driving in my Leaf gets me ~7km/kWh. With a 700km+ range I'm going to assume the car has a much bigger battery than a Leaf and is therefore heavier (so gets worse km/kWh) but let's go with 7 for the thought experiment. 12km / hr means 1.7kWh / hr, i.e. 1.7kW of electricity from solar. Absolute best case for full sunshine you're looking at ~1kW/sq. metre, and with 20% efficiency from the panel that 5 square metres of solar.

 

 

 

The car is ~5mx1.9m so it has a bit less than 6 square metres top-down area ... yes, maybe that is correct. Nice! Still... in practice you will get much less than that as the panels will never be optimally positioned so I'm still not sure it is really worth the expense.

 



Check the specs on the web site. The Lightyear One is very light and very aerodynamic.

Reduced weight
Solar roof and hood
Low aerodynamic drag
Our engineers found the balance of using lighter building materials like aluminium and carbon fiber while maintaining rigorous safety standards. The result is a car that is less heavy, consumes less energy and has an exceptional range."

 

Sounds good, but will it sell in great numbers?

 

I fear the compnay might be a little bit late to the EV party, yes it's lighter than everyone else, and claims a greater range.

 

But with the all the major conventional ICE manufacturers now either having EV's available now, or models very close, this might struggle.

 

Not saying it will, but at the price point are buyers going to opt for the Lightyear, or say a Porsche Taycan Turbo (which also has a very low drag number of 0.22). I'd wager a bit of brand snobbery will come into it


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  #2325852 27-Sep-2019 11:35
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tripper1000:

 

Norway is selling twilight technology to buy technology of the future. I think Norway is quite clever in that regard.

 

 

Agreed.

 

 

Oh well, once the environmentalists get their way and NZ'ers flea this land as economic refugees, all those resources will still be there for the future occupiers of this land.

 

 

Stats don't support your gloomy view... we have vastly more immigrants than emigrants, so it seems that the consensus is that we have it pretty good, and that it's not going to get worse any time soon.

 

 

Looks likely to be the Chinese at this stage of the game. 

 

 

Yes... it really is time to restrict ownership of NZ real estate to at least residents, if not citizens.

 

 


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  #2325854 27-Sep-2019 11:36
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Bit puzzled how not using oil sands results in chinese occupation. Sudden influx in wealth results in some people demanding reduction in taxes so nothing will prevent the chinese invasion. Didnt see national spending huge amounts on defence.

On subject of refugees , those I have met have drive and desire to be here than Joe average nzers.


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  #2325995 27-Sep-2019 13:39
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Wow. Didn't realise mentioning Norway would drag this thread so far off topic.
Numerous other Global Warming and Government Policy threads on GZ.




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