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kingdragonfly
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  #2326441 28-Sep-2019 18:49
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What's The New Porsche Taycan Turbo's REAL Top Speed? We Find Out On The Autobahn!

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How Fast is the new all electric 2020 Porsche Taycan Turbo S? There's one one way to find out and that's to floor in on the unrestricted part of the German Autobahn.


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  #2326530 29-Sep-2019 07:49
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A lot of good information why an electric bus is better for the environment and oil independence than electric cars.

NZ should push harder for electric buses.

Why The US Trails China In Electric Buses

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China is leading the world in electric vehicle adoption, with almost all city buses run on electric batteries. The U.S. has been slow to catch on, with only 300 electric buses delivered last year compared to China’s 78,000. That’s all starting to change, with some cities and companies leading the charge.


 
 
 
 


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  #2326692 29-Sep-2019 13:02
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kingdragonfly: A lot of good information why an electric bus is better for the environment and oil independence than electric cars.

NZ should push harder for electric buses.

Why The US Trails China In Electric Buses

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China is leading the world in electric vehicle adoption, with almost all city buses run on electric batteries. The U.S. has been slow to catch on, with only 300 electric buses delivered last year compared to China’s 78,000. That’s all starting to change, with some cities and companies leading the charge.

 

Wellington did have electric buses until about 18 months ago when the WRC  decided electric old fashioned   it would rather use  diesels. 

 

 





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  #2326849 29-Sep-2019 21:01
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Bollinger B1 and B2: The anti-Tesla EVs

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  #2327127 30-Sep-2019 14:39
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old3eyes:

 

Wellington did have electric buses until about 18 months ago when the WRC  decided electric old fashioned   it would rather use  diesels. 

 

 

 

 

Yeah but they were literally dragging the power cord around with them which would often disconnect, usually in the rain, and usually in peak hour traffic.  Always felt bad for the drivers of those things... 


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  #2327201 30-Sep-2019 16:50
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JimmyC:

 

old3eyes:

 

Wellington did have electric buses until about 18 months ago when the WRC  decided electric old fashioned   it would rather use  diesels. 

 

 

 

 

Yeah but they were literally dragging the power cord around with them which would often disconnect, usually in the rain, and usually in peak hour traffic.  Always felt bad for the drivers of those things... 

 

 

Wellington still does have electric buses.

 

They are a double decker, single rear axle.

 

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They are also slightly shorter than the diesel version

 

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  #2327202 30-Sep-2019 16:52
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WyleECoyoteNZ:

 

JimmyC:

 

old3eyes:

 

Wellington did have electric buses until about 18 months ago when the WRC  decided electric old fashioned   it would rather use  diesels. 

 

 

 

 

Yeah but they were literally dragging the power cord around with them which would often disconnect, usually in the rain, and usually in peak hour traffic.  Always felt bad for the drivers of those things... 

 

 

Wellington still does have electric buses.

 

They are a double decker, single rear axle.

 

Click to see full size

 

They are also slightly shorter than the diesel version

 

Click to see full size

 

 

 

 

 

 

How many did they buy 2 or 3??





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  #2327205 30-Sep-2019 17:02
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old3eyes:

 

How many did they buy 2 or 3??

 

 

Electric buses? An old stuff story I saw said around 10 were due. I think that there would be at least that number of electric. They run on the Island bay to Johnsonville route, I was actually on one this morning.

 

 

 

For the diesel ones, there are a few of those as well.


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  #2327215 30-Sep-2019 17:15
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old3eyes:

 

How many did they buy 2 or 3??

 

 

They got 10, as mentioned they have single read axles, so can be spotted from a distance, but they also have no A/C so on rainy days its like the 1980s with heaps of steamed up windows..... ( apparently its due to not enough Kwh in the battery)

 

Hopefully the next generation can have bigger batteries so they can run some demisters...

 

As an aside and keeping things on track the regional council are promising 50 odd new single level Electric buses to replace the old trolley fleet, but they appear to be at least 2 years away....


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  #2327222 30-Sep-2019 17:23
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I feel Heavy vehicles will come thick and fast once viable market propositions are easily accessible. For these buses, if they're at least 2 years away, they'll ramp up fairly quickly beyond that.


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Is it just Rivian and Tesla developing EV utes currently? Perhaps they could do well here if they're done right.

 

 

I recall Elon saying he was looking at adding the facility to plug in power tools, I would imagine there would be some control of this so you don't draw too much from the main battery.

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Guilliman: Is it just Rivian and Tesla developing EV utes currently? Perhaps they could do well here if they're done right. I recall Elon saying he was looking at adding the facility to plug in power tools, I would imagine there would be some control of this so you don't draw too much from the main battery.

 

Rivian looks to be the only one developing a traditional ute. Tesla's ute is said to be a bit "different" but we're about a month away from it being officially revealed. Bollinger (posted further up) is doing a retro style ute and Ford is making something based off of a Rivian's power train which I suppose will probably come out somewhat traditional as well.


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  #2327487 1-Oct-2019 10:21
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NzBeagle:

 

I feel Heavy vehicles will come thick and fast once viable market propositions are easily accessible. For these buses, if they're at least 2 years away, they'll ramp up fairly quickly beyond that.

 

 

Thats the main thing holding all EV's back. It needs to be viable for you and me and a business to buy one. When it is we will buy them. When that point is reached, people will cease looking at the negative reasons buying an EV, and will be briefly looking at the decreasing number of reasons they have to buy an ICE.

 

I agree, when that happens it will happen fast


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  #2327544 1-Oct-2019 11:16
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Hmm, the Bollinger looks fairly rugged.

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Obraik:

Guilliman: Is it just Rivian and Tesla developing EV utes currently? Perhaps they could do well here if they're done right. I recall Elon saying he was looking at adding the facility to plug in power tools, I would imagine there would be some control of this so you don't draw too much from the main battery.


Rivian looks to be the only one developing a traditional ute. Tesla's ute is said to be a bit "different" but we're about a month away from it being officially revealed. Bollinger (posted further up) is doing a retro style ute and Ford is making something based off of a Rivian's power train which I suppose will probably come out somewhat traditional as well.



Ford is doing an electric F-150.
Atlis are doing their "XT".

There are others.

The real risk is a battery 'cartel' developing. This is why I think governments should also be in the battery game to keep the private companies honest.

NZ has zero battery making capacity, yet we will rely on them heavily. Any government not looking at that as a risk to NZ isn't competent.




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