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  #1758221 7-Apr-2017 16:55
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I agree that there isn't a market for _new_ leafs but you could export to Nz used demo vehicles or low miles.

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  #1759705 9-Apr-2017 10:15
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frednz:

 

 

 

Thanks for your replies, they are very helpful. I guess if you were doing a massive trip on the REX in NZ, you would want to start the REX at a battery level of 75% and try and maintain this level if you are unable to charge the battery at a charging station etc.

 

If you did this, I suppose the battery level could drop to say 50% (or less) even if the REX has been on all the time. In other words, how likely is it on a long trip, driving often at 100 km/h, that the battery could be maintained at 75% using REX all the time?

 

The other point I have noticed about the i3 is that the small tyres often come in for criticism, as discussed here.

 

It was interesting to see that electric cars were discussed on last night's "Project" on TV3. The Nissan Leaf was the centre of the discussion and it came across that buying and owning an EV was pretty easy and that there was nothing wrong with buying really old EVs as their batteries would hardly have deteriorated at all. Range wasn't regarded as a problem so long as the car could get you to work and back home ok (all of which is rather debatable to say the least).

 

Regards

 

Fred

 

 

Yeah, When I have done trips where I know I will need to burn petrol, I start the REX when at around 75%, and turn it off when I have just under the electric range to complete the journey (therefore requiring the REX to automatically run for the last few KM. This is as much about fuel management as keeping a big battery buffer. (The 9L tank takes you something like 110 - 130 km). If I run the fuel tank out first, I can drive on battery until I I reach a fuel station, meaning I can use all the tank. If I used the battery first, I would need to leave a reserve buffer in the tank incase I got detoured or similar.

 

In my experience the REX has no problem keeping up with the power consumption of the car on NZ roads. You go up a hill, and the state of charge will drop a couple of percent, and as you go back down the other side (or on the level), the REX will catch back up. EPA rated average power requirement is something like 14.4kW, so the 25kW REX output comfortably exceeds this.

 

Regarding tires, I deliberately avoided the largest wheel size. Risk of tire related issues rises with reduced side wall. Also should note that in my experience NZ roads have very good surface condition compared to those in the USA.


 
 
 
 


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  #1759743 9-Apr-2017 12:57
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Scott3:

 

frednz:

 

 

 

Thanks for your replies, they are very helpful. I guess if you were doing a massive trip on the REX in NZ, you would want to start the REX at a battery level of 75% and try and maintain this level if you are unable to charge the battery at a charging station etc.

 

If you did this, I suppose the battery level could drop to say 50% (or less) even if the REX has been on all the time. In other words, how likely is it on a long trip, driving often at 100 km/h, that the battery could be maintained at 75% using REX all the time?

 

The other point I have noticed about the i3 is that the small tyres often come in for criticism, as discussed here.

 

It was interesting to see that electric cars were discussed on last night's "Project" on TV3. The Nissan Leaf was the centre of the discussion and it came across that buying and owning an EV was pretty easy and that there was nothing wrong with buying really old EVs as their batteries would hardly have deteriorated at all. Range wasn't regarded as a problem so long as the car could get you to work and back home ok (all of which is rather debatable to say the least).

 

Regards

 

Fred

 

 

Yeah, When I have done trips where I know I will need to burn petrol, I start the REX when at around 75%, and turn it off when I have just under the electric range to complete the journey (therefore requiring the REX to automatically run for the last few KM. This is as much about fuel management as keeping a big battery buffer. (The 9L tank takes you something like 110 - 130 km). If I run the fuel tank out first, I can drive on battery until I I reach a fuel station, meaning I can use all the tank. If I used the battery first, I would need to leave a reserve buffer in the tank incase I got detoured or similar.

 

In my experience the REX has no problem keeping up with the power consumption of the car on NZ roads. You go up a hill, and the state of charge will drop a couple of percent, and as you go back down the other side (or on the level), the REX will catch back up. EPA rated average power requirement is something like 14.4kW, so the 25kW REX output comfortably exceeds this.

 

Regarding tires, I deliberately avoided the largest wheel size. Risk of tire related issues rises with reduced side wall. Also should note that in my experience NZ roads have very good surface condition compared to those in the USA.

 

 

Thanks very much Scott, it's great that you have had a good experience using REX. Now that the 2017 i3 model is available its range is even greater, but I'm not sure whether owners of 2014 models will consider it worthwhile to upgrade to the 2017 i3. The current retail price for 2014 models is still holding well at around $40,000 to $60,000, so this might be an option for people who think the $85,000 needed for the 2017 model is rather steep! But, I'm surprised that prices for the 2014 model haven't dropped further now that the 2017 i3 is available!

 

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  #1764864 16-Apr-2017 08:27
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Elon Musk announces Tesla is going to make a semi-truck and a Ute.

https://futurism.com/its-official-tesla-is-making-an-electric-semi-and-pickup-truck/




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  #1769129 23-Apr-2017 09:00
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EV convoy travelling Bluff to Cape Reinga

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/91724269/enormous-nz-electricvehicle-roadshow-is-under-way

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  #1770055 25-Apr-2017 06:31
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clinty: EV convoy travelling Bluff to Cape Reinga

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/91724269/enormous-nz-electricvehicle-roadshow-is-under-way

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That's my red Nissan LEAF looming in the foreground. :-)
.http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/91724269/enormous-nz-electricvehicle-roadshow-is-under-way





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  #1770058 25-Apr-2017 07:34
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http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/23/technology/elon-musk-dump-trump/index.html?iid=ob_article_hotListpool

From CNN: "Why there was an anti-Elon Musk ad in USA's Sunday paper

A full-page ad in the Sunday editions of the Washington Post and The New York Times urged Tesla CEO Elon Musk to 'dump Trump.'

The ads were paid for by a startup investor named Doug Derwin. The longtime Silicon Valley resident told CNNMoney he shelled out $400,000 to run ads in the Times and the Post, as well as the San Francisco Chronicle and the San Jose Mercury News.

It's the latest step in Derwin's $1 million bid to convince Musk he's failing environmentalists. He calls it 'Elon Dump Trump.'"

 
 
 
 


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  #1772167 28-Apr-2017 21:59
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The last new charger I mentioned here was the one in Te Awamutu. 

Since then, several more have come online. 

 

1. 50kw DC CHAdeMO and CCS / SAE Type 2 at 130 Tauroa St, Raumanga in Whangarei. (It's a Mcdonalds). 

 

2. 50kw DC CHAdeMO and CCS / SAE Type 2 at 19 Percy St, Warkworth. (It's a New World car park around the side)

 

3. 50kw DC CHAdeMO and CCS / SAE Type 2 at 24 Queen St, Upper Hutt. (Launched today - 20170428. Ready to go)

 

4. 50kw DC CHAdeMO and CCS / SAE Type 1 at Rolleston St. Raikaia. Makes getting from Christchurch to Timaru easy for almost all EVs. The CCS / SAE Type 1 is scheduled to be converted to Type 2 on May 15th. There is now an unbroken chain of fast chargers between Christchurch and Invercagill. That's 566km and now easily do-able at the speed of your choice. 

 

There a dozen more actively under construction and they should be ready in the next few weeks. In particular 3 more around the Coromandel allowing easy touring there.....plus Taupo, Turangi and Waiouru, allowing an EV to drive down SH 1 from Auckland to Wellington easily the same day. There will soon be three fast chargers in Taupo....

 

Charge.Net tell me they are looking hard at how to offer fast charging along the 'new' (defacto) SH1 routes between Picton and Christchurch. Murchison is an important location. 

 

Remaining fast charger gaps are:

 

- the top of the South Island (outside Nelson / Golden Bay where they have 3 fast chargers).
- Westland south of Hokitika.
- Southland outside of Invercargill and Balclutha.
- Taranaki outside of New Plymouth
- Northland beyond Pahia
- The East Cape and Gisborne

 

Of course all of these areas - the whole country, really - are well covered by motels and campgrounds who offer cheap EV charging, but it may take hours to top up. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 





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  #1772169 28-Apr-2017 22:07
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Over the past two weeks a big change has taken place across most of the fast charger networks in NZ.

The Motor Industry Association has settled on the CCS / SAE Type 2 standard (from Europe) as the alternate for CHAdeMO on their cars. This is in line with the new government recommended standard supporting Type 2 charging connectors.

What does that mean? Over the past 2 weeks almost all the CCS SAE Type 1 connectors (a US standard) on ABB (generally operated by power companies)  and Veefil (Charge.Net) fast chargers have been swapped out and replaced with CCS Type 2. 

 

That most immediately means BMW i3 and Hyundai Ioniq EVs (both sold in NZ) can now DC fast charge at almost all fast chargers in NZ.....whereas just two weeks ago they could not.

The few remaining CCS / SAE Type 1 connectors will almost all be swapped out over the next few weeks..... Though no one is too sure what will happen to the CCS / SAE Type 1 connector on the Delta fast charger operated by Dunedin City Council. It's the only one if its kind in the country. 





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  #1772282 29-Apr-2017 08:53
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There's a proposal to build a hotel on the site of the Dunedin rapid charger though..

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  #1772380 29-Apr-2017 11:44
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afe66: There's a proposal to build a hotel on the site of the Dunedin rapid charger though..

 

Then it will move or someone else will install a new one or three.  

 

For now, it's up and running. :-) 

 

I'd much rather any fast chargers weren't a stone's throw from the Octagon and were instead on the approaches to the city from elsewhere. Most locals will charge at home or work. It's the travelers who definitely need access to public charging if they are passing through. If they are staying the night, most motels have no issues letting you charge from your room. 

 

This is where the ability to charge an EV pretty much anywhere stands out....





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  #1772524 29-Apr-2017 17:46
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I was at the Wellington MTA 100 car show today. Quite a few EV's on show there including Tesla. There seemed to be a lot of interest in them. My wife was quite taken with the Tesla's but the McLaren really caught her eye.


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  #1775232 3-May-2017 22:33
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MikeB4:

 

I was at the Wellington MTA 100 car show today. Quite a few EV's on show there including Tesla. There seemed to be a lot of interest in them. My wife was quite taken with the Tesla's but the McLaren really caught her eye.

 

 

I should have been there on Saturday, but was down with a cold. 

 

I was there all day Sunday with my red LEAF and was kept busy talking almost non-stop from 9am to 5:20pm (when the weather packed up). 





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  #1775238 3-May-2017 22:50
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More EV charger news. These are on Plugshare. 

1. Taupo finally has an EV fast charger (50kw DC via CHadeMO or CCS Type 2) as of Monday, May 1st, located in Kaimanawa St, alongside the Taupo Fire Station.  It's free to use for now. This charging station makes it possible for a car like my 30kWh Nissan LEAF to leave Auckland at 7am, charge for 25 mins in Te Awamutu, then drive to Taupo and chrge for 25 mins..... and be in Napier by 3pm. Auckland to Napier with just two charges....and two relatively brief breaks built in. 

 

2. Cambridge has its first active EV fast charger as of yesterday, on the edge of Victoria Park. (50kw DC via CHadeMO or CCS Type 2)

 

3.  The EV fast charger in Rakaia (Canterbury) has had the CCS/SAE Type 1 connector swapped out and replaced with a CCS/SAE Type 2 connector, so BMW i3 and Hyundai Ioniq and other cars that can FC fast charge with CCS Type 2 can now use this charger.

 

Turangi is supposed to go live in the next week (50kw DC via CHadeMO or CCS Type 2).  

 

The EV charging network on SH1 in the North Island, from Kawakawa in the north to Wellington, is very close  to being complete. Just Waiouru and Turangi to go.

 

Unison (Napier) is looking to have two more fast charging stations on the Napier / Taupo highway installed by the end of July, near Rangataiki and about 5km east of Te Haroto at McVicar Rd intersection. These would allow even Nissan LEAF Gen 1 owners with 100km range to drive freely between Taupo and Napier.   

 

 





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Got back to Auckland on Saturday afternoon after driving my 30kWh Nissan LEAF to Bluff and back. We head for Cape Reinga in the morning.

 

The Leading the Charge road trip has been a useful incentive for power companies and others along the two routes to get their fast charging stations installed or reconfigured for the newer EVs (Hyundai and BMW in particular).

Along the way, new fast charging stations opened in Te Awamutu, Rakaia, Taupo (one so far, two more coming very soon) and Cambridge and - separately - Tairua on the Coromandel. 

 

Parts of the country are already very well served and it was easier than ever to make the trip between Auckland and Wellington. As of this week, with the opening of the Taupo charger, you can now drive Auckland to Wellington easily the same day in an EV like my 30kWh LEAF. For the next 4-6 weeks you still have to go via Napier, but the fast chargers in Turangi (next week) and Waiouru (June) should be open soon. Along with Mangaweka, Palmerston North, Otaki and Porirua already operating it will be easy. No, you don't have to stop at all of them. 

More regionally, my LEAF can now get from Auckland to Taupo (or back) with a single 20 minute stop along the way to charge. That's how long I'd stop anyway on that journey. The fast charger in Taupo now means you can make the return journey easily on the same day.....between breakfast and supper. 

An EV like a Tesla can already roam more or less freely anywhere in NZ. The next year will see the gaps closed and more affordable cars will be able to roam around just as freely. 

The interest in EVs along the away at the many Leading the Charge events has been huge. 

 

 

 

 

 

 





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