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  #2758571 11-Aug-2021 12:45
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RobDickinson:

Its ok so long as you dont road trip it more than 1 charge 



Er sorry your just wrong.

I have a 2014 nisan leaf with range just over 100km and I have driven several times to chch from dunedin which involves 4 rapid charges and by battery temp was still in the green.

Is your experience of driving your leaf different ?


 
 
 

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  #2758586 11-Aug-2021 13:25
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kingdragonfly: That makes the 2022 Leaf very tempting. It's always nice to buy something with a history.

Given that NZ is subtropical and the south temperate climate, and rarely gets above 30, the lack of active cooling shouldn't make much difference. That is, as long as its not a second-hand Japanese car.

 

Each to their own, but in 2021 I wouldn't buy a brand new EV that doesn't have proper thermal management of its battery. 





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  #2758588 11-Aug-2021 13:29
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afe66:
RobDickinson:

 

Its ok so long as you dont road trip it more than 1 charge 

 



Er sorry your just wrong.

I have a 2014 nisan leaf with range just over 100km and I have driven several times to chch from dunedin which involves 4 rapid charges and by battery temp was still in the green.

Is your experience of driving your leaf different ?



I assume thats a 24 or 30, this is a problem with the 40 or 62 packs, like what is currently on sale




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  #2758614 11-Aug-2021 14:19
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Obraik:

kingdragonfly: That makes the 2022 Leaf very tempting. It's always nice to buy something with a history.

Given that NZ is subtropical and the south temperate climate, and rarely gets above 30, the lack of active cooling shouldn't make much difference. That is, as long as its not a second-hand Japanese car.


Each to their own, but in 2021 I wouldn't buy a brand new EV that doesn't have proper thermal management of its battery. 



The air might not get above 30 but the battery will

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  #2758621 11-Aug-2021 14:46
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afe66:
I have a 2014 nisan leaf with range just over 100km and I have driven several times to chch from dunedin which involves 4 rapid charges and by battery temp was still in the green.

Is your experience of driving your leaf different ?

 

On my 2015 Leaf I've only had the temperature going high once, fast charging in very hot summer weather.  In cooler weather the temperature might rise a little when fast charging, but generally it will still stay within the safe range.  The cars with bigger batteries should have it easier with longer stints in between the fast charges, due to having more range.  On a 24kWh Leaf a 50kW fast charge is over 2C, in a 62kWh Leaf the same 50kW charge is under 1C - there should therefore be less heating due to it effectively being a slower charge rate.


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  #2758977 12-Aug-2021 11:22
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Australia getting the refreshed iX3 in November so I assume we will.

$115k Aud so $120-130k here

210kw rear motor
80kwh pack
460km WLTP
150kw charging/11kw AC
0-100 in 6.8s

Aimed square at EQC/iPace/Etron market. Personally it would be my 4th place choice out of those...


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  #2758982 12-Aug-2021 11:31
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RobDickinson:

 


Aimed square at EQC/iPace/Etron market. Personally it would be my 4th place choice out of those...

 



 

I agree. That reminds me, I must check my lotto ticket……





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  #2759014 12-Aug-2021 12:40
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Dingbatt:

 

RobDickinson:

 


Aimed square at EQC/iPace/Etron market. Personally it would be my 4th place choice out of those...

 



 

I agree. That reminds me, I must check my lotto ticket……

 

 

what's been quoted is the same spec as the model 3. but slower, heavier and more than 2x the price. hmm


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  #2759017 12-Aug-2021 12:53
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Batman:

 

( Dingbatt:

 

RobDickinson:

 


Aimed square at EQC/iPace/Etron market. Personally it would be my 4th place choice out of those...

 



 

I agree. That reminds me, I must check my lotto ticket……)

 

what's been quoted is the same spec as the model 3. but slower, heavier and more than 2x the price. hmm

 

 

Yes, I agree with the comparison to the M3. I would just rate the BMW 4th in the Euros quoted.

 

I wish there were more sedan EVs available rather than the obsession with SUV/Crossovers. Having said that, there is still no indication of pricing or availability of the Model Y in NZ is there?

 

But for anything other than an MGZS or Leaf, input from the NZ Lotteries Commission is required.





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  #2759029 12-Aug-2021 13:19
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just wait for the cheap(er) chinese EVs to land here ...


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  #2759045 12-Aug-2021 13:50
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Its not fair comparing the iX3 against the model 3 quite a different vehicle I guess. 

I just dont know why I would buy it over the others (I guess unless a big bmw fan). 

The iPace is the fastest, probably bets off road, most car like
The EQS is luxowafting, its such a refined vehicle
The Etron is kinda in the middle, fast but not sporty, spacious and luxurious. Probably the closest match to the BMW


The Model Y will be cheaper than them all and faster, but with teslas Spartan interior and focus on high tech spaceship rather than overbearing fussiness some of the euro cars have.

 


Dingbatt:

 

Having said that, there is still no indication of pricing or availability of the Model Y in NZ is there?

 



Not yet but just add 10% onto the cost of the model 3 version you are thinking about and it should be around there.

I expect orders to open mid/late September for Q4 delivery.




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  #2759181 12-Aug-2021 17:56
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RobDickinson:

 

Not yet but just add 10% onto the cost of the model 3 version you are thinking about and it should be around there.

I expect orders to open mid/late September for Q4 delivery.

 

Be interesting to see if the new models they are going to start making in China will include a rear wheel drive Model Y for the RHD market. That would slot in nicely with the NZ feebate system if nothing else.

 

If not, then the AWD Model Y is probably going to be too expensive to get the rebate here.





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  #2759315 12-Aug-2021 19:42
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jarledb:

 

Be interesting to see if the new models they are going to start making in China will include a rear wheel drive Model Y for the RHD market. That would slot in nicely with the NZ feebate system if nothing else.

 

If not, then the AWD Model Y is probably going to be too expensive to get the rebate here.

 



They are already making them for RHD markets


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  #2759438 12-Aug-2021 22:44
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They are already making them for RHD markets

 

 

Rear wheel drive? Which markets?





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