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#3019446 10-Jan-2023 10:24

IONIQ EV Series II (?) runout price now from $49,365 after Clean Car rebate. Only 311km WLTP range though - less than MG ZS & MG4

https://www.hyundai.co.nz/ioniq-ev-runout

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#3021326 14-Jan-2023 16:13

I saw this in the U.K. press today. Did similar reductions occur here? (Note - approximately double the numbers to get nz $)

“The largest cut in price has been for the Model Y Performance, which fell by £8,000 to £59,990, while the cheapest Model Y fell £7,000 to £44,990.

Tesla’s Model 3’s long-range model fell by £6,500 to £50,990, while its entry-level variant fell £5,500 to £42,990.

The Model 3 now costs less than rivals like the Kia EV6 and Polestar 2, while a Model Y is now just £2,000 more than the cheapest Skoda Enyaq 80, according to electric car comparison site Electrifying.com.”

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#3021330 14-Jan-2023 16:29

Yep, price drop discussed here:

Model 3 thread - https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=162&topicid=288285&page_no=73#3017858

Model Y thread - https://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=162&topicid=262025&page_no=27#3020078

Stuff article on the NZ price drop - https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/130923373/tesla-slashes-prices-of-its-most-popular-models-in-nz

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#3021344 14-Jan-2023 17:05

In summary though, NZ prices dropped less than UK/Europe because they were already lower. The most glaring example to me was a YouTuber giving prices (prior to the price drop) in the UK for the single motor Model 3 that were almost the same as the dual motor Model 3 Performance could be ordered for in NZ.

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#3021355 14-Jan-2023 17:28

Forbes : Despite Tesla woes, Foxconn and Qualcomm are Investing in EV and maybe you should too

During the January 5-8, 2023 Computer and Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas, many executives shared with me their marketing strategies for accelerating the world’s adoption of electric vehicles (EV).

Meanwhile during CES, Tesla shares sank to their lowest levels since 2020 as Wall Street reacted to the latest news indicating “lagging demand for its electric vehicles.”

But a large part of recent Tesla stock sell-offs can be attributed to CEO Elon Musk’s actions at Twitter; one prominent analyst says that Tesla still has “exponentially more growth ahead of it than behind it.”

The exponential growth potential is why tech giants such as Foxconn, the world’s largest technology manufacturer, and Qualcomm, traditionally known as a chip company for smartphones, are betting big on EV.
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#3021356 14-Jan-2023 17:33

Before incentives in either country and including tax, the NZ RWD Model 3 is still nearly £5,000 cheaper than in the UK. The US also just had price reductions and our RWD Model 3 is still around US$4,000 cheaper here (before incentives in either country). It's not often NZ gets to say they have the cheaper prices!

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#3021361 14-Jan-2023 17:56

Autocar.co.nz: A guide to every EV on sale in NZ right now

According to article clean car discounts 34 out of over 86 models

49,990 -- MG Excite
53,990 -- MG Essence
55,490 -- BYD Atto 3 Standard
59,990 -- BYD Atto 3 Extended
59,990 -- Fiat The 500e
59,990 -- Opel Corsa-E
59,990 -- SsangYong Korando e-Motion
61,340 -- Mini Classic
61,990 -- Nissan Leaf 40kW
61,990 -- Peugeot e-208 GT
62,990 -- Nissan Leaf 39kW
65,990 -- Hyundai Ioniq EV 38.3kWh
67,990 -- Kia 2022 Niro EV Light 64kW
68,580 -- Mini Yours
68,930 -- Mini First Resolute
69,990 -- Hyundai Kona Electric 39.2kWh
69,990 -- Nissan Leaf 62kW
69,990 -- Opel Mokka-E
71,490 -- Nissan Leaf 59kW
71,990 -- Hyundai Ioniq EV Elite 38.3kWh
71,990 -- Peugeot e-2008 GT
72,400 -- Tesla Model 3 Standard Range
73,990 -- Kia 2022 Niro EV Water 64kW
76,200 -- Tesla Model Y Standard
76,900 -- Polestar 2 Standard Range
76,990 -- Hyundai Kona Electric Elite 39.2kWh
77,990 -- Kia EV6 Air
77,990 -- Kia Niro EV EX
78,700 -- BMW i3 120Ah
79,900 -- Lexus UX 300e
79,990 -- Ford Mach-E RWD 75.7kWh
79,990 -- Hyundai Ioniq 5 58kWh
79,990 -- Hyundai Kona Electric 64.0kWh
79,990 -- LDV Mifa 9

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#3021364 14-Jan-2023 18:05

Youtube video

"Should you buy an MG in Australia in 2022"

Auto Expert John Cadogan

Jumping ahead to complaints.

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#3021456 15-Jan-2023 09:47

From Australia

NZ goes from 4% EV to 21% in less than 12 months - ICE only dead!

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#3021478 15-Jan-2023 10:20

kingdragonfly: From Australia
- ICE only dead!

Except almost all the vehicles that outsold the EVs are diesel utes…….

NZ is such a small market, it is easy for percentages to get distorted.

I’ve started applying the ‘fanboi filter’ to Sam’s videos.

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#3021491 15-Jan-2023 11:02

I have yet to meet anyone who owns an EV. Hybrids seem far more popular although that might be a factor of not living in an urban location.

Note also that the U.K. prices include VAT/GST at 20% rather than our 15%.

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#3021701 15-Jan-2023 19:03

Depends on the circles you move in.

In my department of 60 there are 12 EV almost all urban leafs. Only one one of whom could be called a greenie. All Are using them as second car for round town. Aka mums car. Oh and I think one BYD turned up at end of department Xmas bbq

There are 4 EV on my street within 100m. 3 leafs and a honda e.

And I know another ppl 4 with teslas and one electric jag.

I don't know anyone with hybrid.

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#3021705 15-Jan-2023 19:09

kingdragonfly: From Australia

NZ goes from 4% EV to 21% in less than 12 months - ICE only dead!

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While sat in my Leaf waiting for kid to finish a particular class I counted EVs with my other kid, 100 cars driving past.

4/100 were EV. All were Leaf. You won't believe how many utes with number plates N & P.

Also, anyone here can back up the statistic of 21%?

He must be counting hybrids as EVs?

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#3021709 15-Jan-2023 19:19

Batman:

kingdragonfly: From Australia

NZ goes from 4% EV to 21% in less than 12 months - ICE only dead!

The Electric Viking

While sat in my Leaf waiting for kid to finish a particular class I counted EVs with my other kid, 100 cars driving past.

4/100 were EV. All were Leaf. You won't believe how many utes with number plates N & P.

Also, anyone here can back up the statistic of 21%?

He must be counting hybrids as EVs?

Watch the video again. Electric Viking is at pains to differentiate between BEVs, PHEVs and 'self charging' hybrids.

Also I'm seeing a good percentage of EVs in surrounding traffic and despite knowing more than the average bear about EVs I'm aware there are plenty of EVs I'm failing to ID as EVs. I'm thinking that you and your kid's amateur poll may well be missing plenty.

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#3021711 15-Jan-2023 19:21

Batman:

While sat in my Leaf waiting for kid to finish a particular class I counted EVs with my other kid, 100 cars driving past.

4/100 were EV. All were Leaf. You won't believe how many utes with number plates N & P.

Also, anyone here can back up the statistic of 21%?

He must be counting hybrids as EVs?

Cost vs Benefit I imagine.

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