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  #3193241 10-Feb-2024 13:20
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billgates: Sorry to hear that @SaltyNZ

Did someone crash into your car while your car was parked or you were driving it and some rear ended your car?

What would be the total payout your insurance would make if they do write it off and how much more extra $ can you add on top of payout? Would Kia EV6 LR or MG4 X Power meet the budget?

 

 

 

In traffic on Hibiscus Coast Highway heading north. I was stationary in the right hand lane because everyone was stopped. There was a bus about three car lengths ahead of me in the left lane, also stopped. I had just enough notice to plant my foot to the floor on the brake when the other car came in from the left, hitting my left rear with his front right.

 

He bounced off to the left, rolled, clipped the corner of the bus and righted again just as the slide was stopping. That car is a write off for sure, the whole front and roof are destroyed. The bus only had minor damage so after making sure everyone was ok and taking details, he continued on his run.

 

Poor kid - I spoke to his (I think) aunt just as I was leaving. She said he had been the one to find his uncle at 1am that morning having had what they first thought was a stroke but turned out to be a heart attack. So he's been awake since 1am, with that stress on his mind all day, did a full day's work and was driving home in stop-start traffic. Lost concentration for a split second; I guess he thought he would go around the stationary bus and just didn't see the black car in the other lane until it was too late. His first car accident - lucky the limit there is 60.

 

Worse still, it was his mum's car he was borrowing because his was getting new tires.

 

Also first car accident for my daughter who was in the passenger seat. They say history doesn't repeat but it does rhyme. When my sister was my daughter's age, she was in the passenger seat when numbnuts decided to stop in the middle of Parramatta Road to look at used fridges. In that case though I was hit so hard from behind that I was pushed into the car in front hard enough to push him into the car in front of him.

 

The EV6 is another I would look at but I prefer LFP batteries if possible and I don't think any EV6 models have them. They last longer (as an ex-Leaf owner, that's pretty important to me!), they're safer, they don't care if you charge them to 100% every day, and they have no cobalt so the utebros can't "herpderp child labour!" you about them.

 

I wouldn't do the MG4 if for no other reason than my wife hates them. The somewhat flaky nature of charging on the ZS makes me a bit hesitant to get another MG also.





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  #3194257 12-Feb-2024 11:35
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ChargeNet has purchased the vector Auckland charger sites:

 

https://charge.net.nz/article/chargenet-purchases-vectors-auckland-sites/

 

And they will move from free to paid on the 19th of Feb.



This move from free to paid, is something that many EV owners including myself strongly support.

 

At the moment queues at Vector chargers are often so long, they are virtually unusable for people who actually need to charge on a trip. And the vast majority of users are locals who have the means to DC charge at home, using the chargers to save themselves ~$4 from their power bill.

Also the presence of the free chargers has essentially crowded out private operators (excl some of the petrol station's which fortunately don't seem to care), meaning that Auckland has some big area's with minimal fast charging options.

 

And of course 50kW DC charging is something pretty expensive for vector to be giving away for free (i.e. paid for by Aucklanders power bills).



That said, I do kind of feel for low income people who wait in the long queues to take advantage of the free charging, and are going to get hit with the loss of free charging & RUC's in a short period.


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  #3194260 12-Feb-2024 11:46
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I hope they upgrade the site at greenlane maccas because that is a great place for chargers with both food and a supermarket right beside it.





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  #3194264 12-Feb-2024 11:52
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richms:

 

I hope they upgrade the site at greenlane maccas because that is a great place for chargers with both food and a supermarket right beside it.

 

 

 

 

Probably needs power upgrade - those chargers seemed to be limited to ~30kW the last couple of times I used them.





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  #3194290 12-Feb-2024 12:18
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Yet another blow to the "No really, Hydrogen is the future" people; Shell is permanently closing all it's H2 stations in California for ... well, all the obvious reasons.





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  #3194299 12-Feb-2024 12:44
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SaltyNZ:

 

richms:

 

I hope they upgrade the site at greenlane maccas because that is a great place for chargers with both food and a supermarket right beside it.

 

 

 

 

Probably needs power upgrade - those chargers seemed to be limited to ~30kW the last couple of times I used them.

 



Assuming they could secure the power & more parking bays, it would be a great candidate for a full scale hypercharger site (3x bays, and 2x300kW chargers each with 2xCCS & 1x CHaDEMO cord).

[edit] - But if I was Charge.net I would run it as is with payment in place for a couple of months to get usage date to compare to other sites.


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  #3194361 12-Feb-2024 15:19
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Scott3:

 

Assuming they could secure the power & more parking bays, it would be a great candidate for a full scale hypercharger site (3x bays, and 2x300kW chargers each with 2xCCS & 1x CHaDEMO cord).

[edit] - But if I was Charge.net I would run it as is with payment in place for a couple of months to get usage date to compare to other sites.

 

 

There's some other issues with that area (that intersection has a lot of standing water and was under about a foot of it during the Anniversary weekend floods) that is going to need to be resolved first. 

 

Hopefully whatever drainage/earthworks they end up having to do there takes into account future use of the site and energy demands.




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  #3195225 14-Feb-2024 18:01
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Moving this from another discussion.

@michaelmurfy: but if you were looking at PHEV then for around the same cost you can get an EV and never have to visit a fuel station + charge at home (assuming you've got a place to charge it).

Yes but, for around the same cost the range is not equivalent. I'm happy with say BYD EV 420km range. Partner isn't. For that reason PHEV made sense, and then later an EV to replace the second car.

It's a painful moment saying no to PHEV. Buying another hybrid just feels like buying old tech although granted some new bells and whistles will come with it. That and the end of subsidies have me thinking second hand recent hybrid is the way to go for us.

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  #3195242 14-Feb-2024 18:37
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The thing is that range is actually fine as you’re getting that each day. Longer trips are fine (I’ve literally driven all over NZ and done 50,000km in mine). Trust me when I say your partner will be fine with it 😊

 

People really tend to forget that you plug in overnight and have a full tank in the morning and charging on the road is really quick and easy too (average charging stop is 20mins for most people). 

 

A PHEV is basically giving you the placebo of getting rid of range anxiety which seriously doesn’t exist in a modern EV these days. 





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  #3195298 14-Feb-2024 19:17
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I'm happy with say BYD EV 420km range. Partner isn't.

 

 

 

Your partner drives more than 420km a day? They should try to get a company car...





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  #3195306 14-Feb-2024 20:10
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michaelmurfy:

 

A PHEV is basically giving you the placebo of getting rid of range anxiety which seriously doesn’t exist in a modern EV these days. 

 

 

 

 

I have always considered a PHEV to be the worst of both worlds... a small ICE that doesn't really excite much, and the EV aspect that has limited power and range... 

 

When I do buy my next car, I am almost certain it will be EV. 


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As of October last year we had a 2003 Toyota Corolla (mine) and a 2004 Toyota Caldina (the missus).  Both were at 290,000km.

 

Wanted to jump on the EV thing before the subsidies ended (well aware RUC were coming April 2024) and as we can charge at home and do less than 100km per day, a 2018 Leaf seemed perfect.  We initially looked at getting a new EV (MG4 most probably) but then decided we didn't need to spend $50k when a $27k Leaf would achieve our purpose.  We were in the process of renovating our garage, including electrical, so we got our sparky to chuck on a caravan plug.

 

Thankfully in May last year I had refinanced our mortgage with Westpac and moved to offset.  Then about July(ish) from memory they came out with their interest free loan up to 50k for EV/hybrid etc so we jumped on that to purchase the Leaf.

 

Plan was to sell the Corolla (5 speed manual) and me to take the Caldina (love having a wagon).

 

Just as we were purchasing the Leaf the Caldina had an issue with the throttle, a local mechanic made the problem worse and after they had the car for three months I took it to another mechanic who said it was stuffed and we ended up scrapping it for $300.

 

Suddenly we needed another car as we really don't want to lose the space of a wagon as we use that regularly.  We ended up being glad we didn't drop $50k on a new EV as we had $23k (the remainder of the $50k) available through a second application to the interest free Westpac loan.

 

So after looking around, and wanting something that was a bit more practical range wise than the Leaf, I've settled on a 2020 Toyota Corolla hybrid wagon. In the process of getting pre-purchase done on one in Auckland as I'm in Taranaki and I'm not paying a $6k premium to buy local.

 

We used to budget $650 month for fuel.  We now budget $100 month for EV charging, and I'm hoping no more than $150 month for the hybrid.  RUC may add another $100 max so we will be saving around $300 month on fuel costs.

 

I wouldn't touch a PHEV now - those RUC have killed them for me, especially with a large amount of open road in our daily commute.

 

The Leaf is fantastic to drive, on the odd occasion I'm allowed behind the wheel.  It's much nicer than I thought it was going to be and we did consider getting a second Leaf and just hiring a car for trips away, but the hybrid Corolla wagon will hopefully be around the same cost to run (at least until they add RUC to the non plug in hybrids down the track.

 

So other than going into $50k interest free debt to pay back in 5 years, we will have upgraded from 2003 and 2004 cars to 2018 and 2020.  Seems no brainer with the free finance.

 

 


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  #3197132 18-Feb-2024 16:02
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82.4% of all new cars sold in Norway in 2023 were EVs.

 

How can NZ get to the same level, and what has Norway done to make it happen?

 

CNBC just aired a news story that covers what Norway is doing, and what I think NZ should be copying. 

 





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  #3197133 18-Feb-2024 16:07
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jarledb:

 

82.4% of all new cars sold in Norway in 2023 were EVs.

 

How can NZ get to the same level, 

 

 

 

 

Well first, we'll remove the clean car incentive and the Auckland regional fuel tax. Then we will introduce Road User Charges for EVs without rolling it out for petrol cars as well - and we will make sure to keep the $12 processing fee because we love taxes on taxes. 

 

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