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  Reply # 1657279 25-Oct-2016 10:44
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joker97: How slow is too slow? When the car behind wants to get past?

 

I guess there would be some individual judgement regarding this,  if you are below (-10) then you should be courteous. The question is then, what about the guy travelling 120 when you're going 100, well I think in the interest of allowing them to pass safely, i'd assist by pulling over where possible. I'm not the police, I can *555 them, but holding them up could lead to a dangerous overtake. You can be less courteous, in the form of the horn, flashing your lights, giving them the middle.

 

 

I think etiquette is the right concept here. If the guy is driving at 120 because he's bleeding to death from a stab wound by all means!





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  Reply # 1657284 25-Oct-2016 10:47
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joker97:

 

NzBeagle:

 

joker97: How slow is too slow? When the car behind wants to get past?

 

I guess there would be some individual judgement regarding this,  if you are below (-10) then you should be courteous. The question is then, what about the guy travelling 120 when you're going 100, well I think in the interest of allowing them to pass safely, i'd assist by pulling over where possible. I'm not the police, I can *555 them, but holding them up could lead to a dangerous overtake. You can be less courteous, in the form of the horn, flashing your lights, giving them the middle.

 

 

I think etiquette is the right concept here. If the guy is driving at 120 because he's bleeding to death from a stab wound by all means!

 

 

Correct, you could make assumptions, but you never know why they are choosing the fast lane.


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  Reply # 1657319 25-Oct-2016 11:17
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There can be lots of reasons for speed differential.  Yesterday I found myself wanting to go faster than a lot of cars.  I was 1 up and they had passengers so their comfort speed is lower than mine.  I'm local and know the road well, they may not have been.

 

I expected a slow trip so just chilled, tried to hang back and overtook when I could.

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 1657323 25-Oct-2016 11:22
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And now they are targeting the elderly. Something very fishy here, even if it is Stuff.

 

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/85652982/did-police-use-booze-checkpoint-to-targets-elderly-women-at-euthanasia-meeting

 

 

Wellington police may have used an alcohol checkpoint to gather information about elderly women attending euthanasia meetings.

 

The women had been attending an Exit International meeting on a Sunday afternoon early this month in the Lower Hutt suburb of Maungaraki.

 

As they left, about 4pm, all were pulled over at the checkpoint and – before being asked to blow into the machine – were made to give their names and addresses, and show their driver's licences.

 

In the days that followed, at least 10 of them received visits from police officers, asking questions about their association with Exit, a pro-euthanasia group. 

 

The claims have been confirmed by multiple women at the meeting. 

 





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  Reply # 1657327 25-Oct-2016 11:26
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The GCSB might have something to do with it ...





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  Reply # 1657337 25-Oct-2016 11:34
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And now they are targeting the elderly. Something very fishy here, even if it is Stuff.

 

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/85652982/did-police-use-booze-checkpoint-to-targets-elderly-women-at-euthanasia-meeting

 

 

Wellington police may have used an alcohol checkpoint to gather information about elderly women attending euthanasia meetings.

 

The women had been attending an Exit International meeting on a Sunday afternoon early this month in the Lower Hutt suburb of Maungaraki.

 

As they left, about 4pm, all were pulled over at the checkpoint and – before being asked to blow into the machine – were made to give their names and addresses, and show their driver's licences.

 

In the days that followed, at least 10 of them received visits from police officers, asking questions about their association with Exit, a pro-euthanasia group. 

 

The claims have been confirmed by multiple women at the meeting. 

 

 

 

I started a thread related to this based on the news item about some elderly lady's helium balloon kit being confiscated. If these reports are anywhere close to true, there needs to be some kind of investigation and accountability. This may sound funny but it is absolutely unacceptable. The job of the police is to enforce the law, not to act as self-appointed guardians of whatever morality they happen to think everyone else should be subject to. This smacks of some mid-level official taking it upon theirself to dictate the behaviour of others. It is not illegal to have meetings that discuss euthanasia. It is not illegal to commit suicide. This seems to be a blatant attempt to use police power to intimidate a particular group of people while euthanasia is under discussion in Parliament. It is absolutely unacceptable and I hope more people will say so. 

 

 





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  Reply # 1657366 25-Oct-2016 11:57
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I drive from Otaki Beach to Porirua 4/5 times a week. Mostly outside of peak traffic and after nearly two years of roadwords along SH1 I can't believe what I see on a weekly basis with people's speed. I've followed people doing 30 in 50's, 50 in 70/80's, 70/80 in 100's and seen plenty doing well over 120kph and risking all sorts of carnage trying to over take once they get to a passing lane.

 

But perhaps there is an mitigating factor on my journey.

 

Here are the speed limits I encounter from door to door 50,70,50,70,100,80,100,70,100,50,80,50,70,100,70,100,80,70,80,50,100,50,100,50. 

 

That's 24 changes to the speed limit changes in just 52kms door to door.

 

I consider myself a good driver and pay attention to the speed limits, but miss just one of those signs and you can easily find yourself doing 70 in a 100 and be none the wiser.


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  Reply # 1657371 25-Oct-2016 12:00
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@Rikkitic Sorry, I missed your thread on the issue. I agree it is unacceptable and I'm surprised there isn't a lot more fuss being made about it. 

 

Everyone's gone quiet, too quiet.





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  Reply # 1657418 25-Oct-2016 12:53
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I drive from Otaki Beach to Porirua 4/5 times a week. Mostly outside of peak traffic and after nearly two years of roadwords along SH1 I can't believe what I see on a weekly basis with people's speed. I've followed people doing 30 in 50's, 50 in 70/80's, 70/80 in 100's and seen plenty doing well over 120kph and risking all sorts of carnage trying to over take once they get to a passing lane.


But perhaps there is an mitigating factor on my journey.


Here are the speed limits I encounter from door to door 50,70,50,70,100,80,100,70,100,50,80,50,70,100,70,100,80,70,80,50,100,50,100,50. 


That's 24 changes to the speed limit changes in just 52kms door to door.


I consider myself a good driver and pay attention to the speed limits, but miss just one of those signs and you can easily find yourself doing 70 in a 100 and be none the wiser.



That's a good point! Or worse doing 100 in a 70 zone!




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  Reply # 1657424 25-Oct-2016 13:05
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joker97: That's a good point! Or worse doing 100 in a 70 zone!

 

Yep, happens all the time. Followed an unmarked police car full of uniformed officers all the way through a 70 doing 100kph on one occassion. He added insult to injury by then doing 80 through the following 100 and no-one would over take him !


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  Reply # 1657571 25-Oct-2016 17:04
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joker97: That's a good point! Or worse doing 100 in a 70 zone!

 

Yep, happens all the time. Followed an unmarked police car full of uniformed officers all the way through a 70 doing 100kph on one occassion. He added insult to injury by then doing 80 through the following 100 and no-one would over take him !

 

 

Wow maybe they were waiting for someone to overtake them by accident. Sneaky! (Just guessing from their behaviour in the 70 zone)





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