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  Reply # 1631182 15-Sep-2016 18:28
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Technofreak:

 

Without being present it's very hard to make a judgment call.

 

In my experience you can easily add 10 and in some cases up to 20 kph to those recommended figures without too much effort and still manage a comfortable ride. Based on this I would consider a driver that was sticking to those speeds religiously is probably holding the traffic up. I use the signs as a heads up but drive to what I see.

 

Remember they are advisory speeds.

 

 

True...and drivers out there can be 16 to 105. The road has to be designed for and safe for all of them. 

 

I do get a wee bit tired of young guys failing utterly to appreciate that less experienced or older drivers operate within a different set of parameters for safeconduct on the roads.....that are still well within the limits defined by the law. 

I also very much enjoy sitting at the lights behind the hoon who passed me 20kms ago because I was going too slow. How can I be? We both just fetched up at the same point on the road within seconds of each other. As often as not, on NZ roads, having to pass everything is a futile and immature thing to do. You get there first, but you don't get there much sooner....for all the effort. 

I pulled over to let them pass, but the stock truck laden with cattle 2km in front me wasn't as accommodating. I can cover 2km in less than the 2 minutes it takes the lights to change phase. .....and off we go. 

 

 





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  Reply # 1631183 15-Sep-2016 18:31
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What? The police do this?

 

 

No, its usually old ladies. They think that checking the lane is clear of people getting on at onewa is optional before pulling left. Im doing 80-85, they are at a crawl. I need a louder horn because I think they are deaf and cant hear it as well.





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  Reply # 1631186 15-Sep-2016 18:33
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MikeB4: Folks seem to think 50/100 kms are the minimums. Those limits are the maximum allowable having regard to the prevailing driving conditions.

 

the problem there is there is no specified minimum so you get people doing 70-80 on a road thats safe to do 100 on which end up affecting other drivers and potentially causing them to do something silly

 

there should be a minimum speed

 

 

Unenforceable. Also makes no sense. A car that's had a problem may limp to a service station. You'd have them not move legally at all for you to save....what....next to nothing in real travel-time terms. 





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  Reply # 1631188 15-Sep-2016 18:35
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A really slow car limping along is easy to pass, a moron doing decent speeds on the straights and then slowing to the yellow sign speeds or less on the corners is not easy to pass. Limping car can turn their hazzards on so everyone knows something is up. Moron driver just wants to annoy everyone else with their behaviour.





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  Reply # 1631189 15-Sep-2016 18:36
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MikeB4:

 


 

 

What? The police do this?

 

 

No, its usually old ladies. They think that checking the lane is clear of people getting on at onewa is optional before pulling left. Im doing 80-85, they are at a crawl. I need a louder horn because I think they are deaf and cant hear it as well.

 

 

I've seen this too. Even worse is the timid driver who actually fully STOPS at the bottom of the on-ramp just as they are meant to merge. They are outright dangerous.  





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I've seen this too. Even worse is the timid driver who actually fully STOPS at the bottom of the on-ramp just as they are meant to merge. They are outright dangerous.  

 

 

Seen that many times where the offramp for the northwestern and port splits off, people stop there because they want to go south and wait for a gap that will never happen.





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A really slow car limping along is easy to pass, a moron doing decent speeds on the straights and then slowing to the yellow sign speeds or less on the corners is not easy to pass. Limping car can turn their hazzards on so everyone knows something is up. Moron driver just wants to annoy everyone else with their behaviour.

 

 

Can't agree. Some one slowing to the suggested speed is likely trying to avoid throwing passengers around like peas in a can. You, driving along alone, may love the feeling of speeding around a corner. I've also known people who suffer motion sickness even in cars....and one has to drive very gently or they spew on the dash.

The road is for every one. Just......chill. You'll get there.  I pull over if i have cars collecting behind me. It doesn't happen much, but sometimes.....





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  Reply # 1631197 15-Sep-2016 18:44
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Linuxluver:

 

richms:

 

MikeB4:

 


 

 

What? The police do this?

 

 

No, its usually old ladies. They think that checking the lane is clear of people getting on at onewa is optional before pulling left. Im doing 80-85, they are at a crawl. I need a louder horn because I think they are deaf and cant hear it as well.

 

 

I've seen this too. Even worse is the timid driver who actually fully STOPS at the bottom of the on-ramp just as they are meant to merge. They are outright dangerous.  

 

 

 

 

But it is NOT just seniors that do this.





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  Reply # 1631207 15-Sep-2016 18:46
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But it is NOT just seniors that do this.

 

 

I find that it almost always is when I have to slam on the brakes when a car moves over infront of me at the onewa onramp. Its such a common occurance I am usually looking at what cars are in lane 2 before the merge happens so I can get ahead of any that look like trouble.





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  Reply # 1631208 15-Sep-2016 18:49
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Linuxluver:

 

I've seen this too. Even worse is the timid driver who actually fully STOPS at the bottom of the on-ramp just as they are meant to merge. They are outright dangerous.  

 

 

Seen that many times where the offramp for the northwestern and port splits off, people stop there because they want to go south and wait for a gap that will never happen.

 



 

'Cheaters' and lane crashers are special pet hate. They just create congestion and slow everyone down.....including themselves. Same with tailgaters.....when merging is required and they don't leave any gaps. Hello. All stop. Public transport is much better most days than contending with the selfish, stupid behaviour of people who imagine that being first and slowing everyone down to a crawl is somehow better than leaving a bit of space and keeping it all moving.  





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  Reply # 1631211 15-Sep-2016 18:51
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But it is NOT just seniors that do this.

 

 

The two most recent examples for we were Asian females.....both on the NorthWestern.  





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The two most recent examples for we were Asian females.....both on the NorthWestern.  

 

 

Did they take both hands off the wheel and put them over their mouth when you honked at them? One did that. I would have facepalmed but you know, hands on the wheel and stuff like that.





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  Reply # 1631231 15-Sep-2016 19:14
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And why do drivers going up the Ngauranga Gorge near Wellington drive at well under the limit of 80kmh? Simply because there are speed cameras everywhere and you simply can't risk going 84kmh, which is said to be the "theoretical" maximum speed in an 80kmh zone! It's well known that the Ngauranga Gorge is one of the most policed speed limit areas in the country! So don't blame people for driving at 70kmh in this 80kmh zone!

 

 

Some cars with small petrol engines struggle to maintain 80km/h going uphill on the gorge.


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Some cars with small petrol engines struggle to maintain 80km/h going uphill on the gorge.

 

 

IMO they are not fit to be on that road in that case.





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  Reply # 1631243 15-Sep-2016 19:21
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alasta:

 

Some cars with small petrol engines struggle to maintain 80km/h going uphill on the gorge.

 

 

IMO they are not fit to be on that road in that case.

 

 

 

 

Have you driven the gorge in question?

 

We got behind truck going up the gorge last Saturday it was down to 15kmh, took a while before we got a break to change lanes to get past.





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