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Topic # 204291 25-Sep-2016 19:19
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There have been numerous threads on here about dangerous overtaking, lane-changing and inconsiderate or stupid driving in general.

 

I thought I'd share some footage I took on a recent holiday, this is how it's done in Vietnam.

 

(Apologies, it's a bit shaky.  Handheld.)

 

 

 





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  Reply # 1640335 25-Sep-2016 19:57

No wonder they have problems when the drive here!


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  Reply # 1640347 25-Sep-2016 20:27
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It's an exaggerated version of the thing I see on the Northern Motorway every day - arrogant drivers trying to go faster than the ambient traffic flow by swerving between lanes and exploiting the defensive driving of those people who follow at a sufficient distance.


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  Reply # 1640406 25-Sep-2016 22:29
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I don't see the problem.

 

That is efficiency using the whole width of the road.





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  Reply # 1640408 25-Sep-2016 22:34
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and you know what - no crashes. Something wrong with New Zealanders' driving

 





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  Reply # 1640410 25-Sep-2016 22:37
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but not in Russia - crash ++

 





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  Reply # 1640437 26-Sep-2016 02:22
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Yes I was in Vietnam few months back and wow what an opener to had mad people could be behind a steering wheel of a car or on a scooter




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  Reply # 1640440 26-Sep-2016 03:59
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This driving style is reasonably uniform across Asia. I've been to Thailand (amongst other Asian countries) quite a few times and used to think the driving there was crazy until I got used to it and saw how they actually all fit in together. I went to Sri Lanka 6 years ago and the driving there scared the crap out of me, it was a relief to get back to Thailand!



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  Reply # 1640447 26-Sep-2016 05:56
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joker97:

 

and you know what - no crashes. Something wrong with New Zealanders' driving

 

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Yes, somehow it seems to work reasonably well.  We saw little in the way of road-rage, cutting in front of someone is the norm and is tolerated.

 

In saying that, some manoeuvres really are very unsafe (including some of the ones in the bus trip in my vid above) and in the 13 days we were there we witnessed one nose-to-tail and two people who had been knocked off their moped.

 

Depending on how you interpret the stats, you're 4 times more likely to die in a traffic accident in Vietnam than in New Zealand.

 

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate)





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in terms of bad driving (not the state of un-laned traffic flow), if you have a dashcam you will find them. but yes, there are places where lanes don't mean the same thing as in NZ and hence driving within lanes is a mystery to those. 

 





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  Reply # 1640456 26-Sep-2016 07:27
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joker97:

 

and you know what - no crashes. Something wrong with New Zealanders' driving

 

..

 

Yes, somehow it seems to work reasonably well.  We saw little in the way of road-rage, cutting in front of someone is the norm and is tolerated.

 

In saying that, some manoeuvres really are very unsafe (including some of the ones in the bus trip in my vid above) and in the 13 days we were there we witnessed one nose-to-tail and two people who had been knocked off their moped.

 

Depending on how you interpret the stats, you're 4 times more likely to die in a traffic accident in Vietnam than in New Zealand.

 

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate)

 

 

what's the road death per capita here? if it's not high then they are not collecting the stats properly:

 





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  Reply # 1640476 26-Sep-2016 08:02
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Saudi Arabia road deaths per capita is 27.4 , New Zealand is 6, UK is 2.9.




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  Reply # 1640591 26-Sep-2016 12:31
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MikeB4: Saudi Arabia road deaths per capita is 27.4 , New Zealand is 6, UK is 2.9.

 

 

 

Road deaths per (billion) vehicle km is another way to compile stats - possibly better when considering road safety stats when some countries have low can ownership rates etc.  Not many countries submit those stats.

 

On that basis, per km travelled, you're about 4x safer in NZ than Brazil, 2x safer than South Korea, slightly safer than the USA,  Belgium, Spain - and surprisingly IMO - Japan.

 

UK still rates as very safe.  For the explanation of that, my money is on compulsory third-party insurance keeping the worst idiots (and many young people - because of the cost of insurance) off the roads.


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