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  # 1712894 30-Jan-2017 16:43
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jonathan18:OP - is there any strong reason why you're not keen to look at near-new?


The cars I've looked at new have generally had a 3 year/100,000km warranty. I would probably do 100,000km in 3 years, so I guess I was kind of looking at the "added value" of that really. Plus knowing it hasn't been thrashed. I guess buying within that 3 year/100,000km window means the vehicle should be up to date with servicing to keep the warranty valid.

 

 

 

Many now seem to have 5 years warranty, and 3 years free servicing. 




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  # 1712906 30-Jan-2017 16:53
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mattwnz:Many now seem to have 5 years warranty, and 3 years free servicing.


Advice a friend gave was to check service intevals, and hit the dealer up for typical servicing cost. He says $700 for an annual 15,000km service is probably typical - therefore if one car seems less appealing because its $2000 more... it may actually be $2200 less over 3 years from the free servicing. So I'll need to look into that more as well. As I said I'd do 100,000km in 3 years so if there isn't a km limit (or if it is 100K Km), then free servicing is large bonus.

 
 
 
 


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  # 1712910 30-Jan-2017 16:56
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Geese: 

I did see somebody with 3 years free serving but don't recall now. Maybe Mitsubishi?

Advice a friend gave was to check service intevals, and hit the dealer up for typical servicing cost. He says $700 for an annual 15,000km service is probably typical - therefore if one car seems less appealing because its $2000 more... it may actually be $2200 less over 3 years from the free servicing. So I'll need to look into that more as well. As I said I'd do 100,000km in 3 years so if there isn't a km limit (or if it is 100K Km), then free servicing is large bonus.

 

Our Mazda 2 came with 3 years free servicing (or every 10,000 KM, whatever comes first). We were originally looking at a Suzuki Swift, but that had an estimated annual service cost of $700. There were other factors as well, but that was a pretty big negative for us.




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  # 1712919 30-Jan-2017 17:04
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dclegg: Our Mazda 2 came with 3 years free servicing (or every 10,000 KM, whatever comes first). We were originally looking at a Suzuki Swift, but that had an estimated annual service cost of $700. There were other factors as well, but that was a pretty big negative for us.


Just looked up the Mazda 2. Going to read about it now. Looking at the servicing, its 3 years/100,000km. So if a service is $700, and I do 100,000km in 3 years, thats 10 services or a $7,000 saving.

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  # 1712946 30-Jan-2017 18:31
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dclegg: Our Mazda 2 came with 3 years free servicing (or every 10,000 KM, whatever comes first). We were originally looking at a Suzuki Swift, but that had an estimated annual service cost of $700. There were other factors as well, but that was a pretty big negative for us.


Just looked up the Mazda 2. Going to read about it now. Looking at the servicing, its 3 years/100,000km. So if a service is $700, and I do 100,000km in 3 years, thats 10 services or a $7,000 saving.


I'm pretty sure it's no more than six services over the first three years of a new Mazda, well that's the case with my Mazda 6. Still, it's a significant benefit to have this covered for three years.

I'm shocked at an annual service charge of $700 for a Swift, as that sounds damn high. That's about what I expect to pay over a year for my bi-annual services (it's a diesel with six-monthly service intervals).

OP, have you also considered a Honda Jazz? This may be a little over your budget initially but Honda prices hold up well when selling. A lot more space, both cargo and person, than the 2. Well-appointed cars as well, eg GPS, reversing camera...

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  # 1712949 30-Jan-2017 18:50
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$700 for servicing!? That sounds way too high for a small car. Maybe that is why you I wouldn't use a dealer for servicing unless it was within the free servicing period. $200-300 is what my local garage charges. Mazdas are serviced every 6 months in NZ, although it is every 12 months in Oz, which doesn't make any sense.


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  # 1712971 30-Jan-2017 21:00
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In my view the Kia Picanto is the best option for sub $20k. They are normally sold as automatics, but I see there is a manual available on indent order. I had the mechanically similar Rio for a few years and had no issues whatsoever.

 

Buying second hand to avoid the initial depreciation hit is a good idea if you're only intending to keep the vehicle for three years or less, but if you average depreciation over five years or more then buying new makes more sense.


 
 
 
 


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  # 1712973 30-Jan-2017 21:02

whoa whoa $700/year for servicing? what are they doing to the car??


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  # 1712974 30-Jan-2017 21:02
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How about this: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/mazda/auction-1243529154.htm

 

Brand new Mazda 2, 6-speed manual, $20k


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  # 1713014 30-Jan-2017 22:23
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+1 on the mazda 2.  We did get the upgraded model (GSX) and is well worth it.  We were comparing them to the Suzuki swifts, and is superior in every way. 6 speed auto ran rings around the performance of any of the other swifts.

 

Also they will negotiate heavily if you are paying cash


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  # 1713056 31-Jan-2017 07:23
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If you can get a Mazda2 for under $20k then it will be better than the Picanto that I mentioned above.


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  # 1713061 31-Jan-2017 07:59
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mattwnz:

$700 for servicing!? That sounds way too high for a small car. Maybe that is why you I wouldn't use a dealer for servicing unless it was within the free servicing period. $200-300 is what my local garage charges. Mazdas are serviced every 6 months in NZ, although it is every 12 months in Oz, which doesn't make any sense.



When our Suzuki SX4 was dealer serviced most were $300-350. The dealer had said put aside $30/month. The "servicing" was almost all oil and other fluid changing. The days of setting valve clearances, changing the plugs and doing the timing every service are long gone. The invoice had an impressive list of tasks for that km reading but only those in bold were actually done. Perhaps if they pretended that they had "checked and lubricated door locks and hinges" each time and all the other trivial items the bill could double. As it was the bill was padded with "environmental charges" for oil disposal and a charge for the lap top used to check stored ECU codes.

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  # 1713062 31-Jan-2017 08:03
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Mitsubishi mirage?

 

1.2L

 

$18.5 k all up onroad cost.

 

5 star safety.

 

Up to 10 year warranty.

 

Just saying...





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  # 1713063 31-Jan-2017 08:05
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For excellent non-biased new car reviews for most models dating back many years, I recommend www.goauto.com.au

 

Yes it's an Australian website, but the vast majority of the cars reviewed on there are the same spec as kiwi new models.


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  # 1713064 31-Jan-2017 08:06
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alliao:

 

whoa whoa $700/year for servicing? what are they doing to the car??

 

 

No idea. Just relaying what the salesman at the Suzuki dealership told us when we took one for a test drive.


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