Geekzone: technology news, blogs, forums
Guest
Welcome Guest.
You haven't logged in yet. If you don't have an account you can register now.


View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic
1 | 2 | 3
518 posts

Ultimate Geek
+1 received by user: 257


  # 1730608 5-Mar-2017 23:55
One person supports this post
Send private message

Linuxluver:

 


I'm told these EV parks are about as far from any internal entrance to the mall proper as you can get.

 

Nah, they are really near (like next to the parents with pram's or something like that carparks).

I went for a look when I was in hamilton for work last week.

Got photos incl Nameplates of chargers if anybody wants me to post.


 

In normal tesla fashion, chargers are installed in pairs

 

There are two actual charger boxes each rated at 135kW. Each box feeds two stalls. Each stall can provide a maximum of 120kW, subject to demand on other stall (I think first car in gets priority, and the second car gets what is left over).


57 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 6


  # 1751142 31-Mar-2017 13:24
2 people support this post
Send private message

Visit Te Awa mall often for work, and whenever I do, I make a point of driving past the Tesla Superchargers...

 

There is four, and they the furtherest away from the entrance, escalators and lifts etc...if someone that didnt have a Tesla was to park in one, they would only be doing it to be a complete douche bag. Unlike Wheel Chair, Parents with Prams and Elderly people parking which tends to be close.

 

The Tesla chargers have always been empty when I drive past, apart from last week, when a nice White P85D was parked up charging. I got out and had a chat with the owner - nice bloke from the Naki.  As he pointed out, how convenient to be able to park up and charge for free while having a bite to eat for lunch! A good stop off location in and out of Auckland for sure!

 

 

 

To be able to set these up practically anywhere has a huge advantage over a Petrol Station.  

 

 


 
 
 
 




5303 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1164

Trusted
Subscriber

  # 1752805 1-Apr-2017 17:50
Send private message

salttlas:

 

Visit Te Awa mall often for work, and whenever I do, I make a point of driving past the Tesla Superchargers...

 

There is four, and they the furtherest away from the entrance, escalators and lifts etc...if someone that didnt have a Tesla was to park in one, they would only be doing it to be a complete douche bag. Unlike Wheel Chair, Parents with Prams and Elderly people parking which tends to be close.

 

The Tesla chargers have always been empty when I drive past, apart from last week, when a nice White P85D was parked up charging. I got out and had a chat with the owner - nice bloke from the Naki.  As he pointed out, how convenient to be able to park up and charge for free while having a bite to eat for lunch! A good stop off location in and out of Auckland for sure!

 

 

 

To be able to set these up practically anywhere has a huge advantage over a Petrol Station.   

 

 

Hamilton is actually good location for a Tesla driver with 500km range driving from Auckland to anywhere else southward on the North Island. Or in reverse. 

You'd leave Auckland and drive to Hamilton - top off - and then drive to Napier, New Plymouth, Palmy....all in easy range. For one location, it's a great one. 

That's going to be the thing about EVs with huge batteries. For moving around NZ they really will only be 5 - 10 supercharger sites......and the whole country is covered.....because most people charge up at home. You only use these when travelling longer distance in a day. Very UN-like petrol stations, which everyone needs all the time.  





____________________________________________________
I'm on a high fibre diet. 

 

High fibre diet




5303 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1164

Trusted
Subscriber

  # 1752806 1-Apr-2017 17:51
Send private message

Scott3:

 

Linuxluver:

 


I'm told these EV parks are about as far from any internal entrance to the mall proper as you can get.

 

Nah, they are really near (like next to the parents with pram's or something like that carparks).

I went for a look when I was in hamilton for work last week.

Got photos incl Nameplates of chargers if anybody wants me to post.


 

In normal tesla fashion, chargers are installed in pairs

 

There are two actual charger boxes each rated at 135kW. Each box feeds two stalls. Each stall can provide a maximum of 120kW, subject to demand on other stall (I think first car in gets priority, and the second car gets what is left over).

 

 

Agreed it's not a great distance, but they are in a corner at the end......

 

 





____________________________________________________
I'm on a high fibre diet. 

 

High fibre diet


12746 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 4247

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 1757428 6-Apr-2017 11:16
Send private message

How much do the cars cost in NZ?

And why Hamilton not Auckland? I thought the cars were expensive and Hamilton certainly does not have the reputation of being a place full of wealthy people wanting to demonstrate their wealth and status with their car choice. Auckland, however....does.






57 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 6


  # 1757496 6-Apr-2017 13:13
One person supports this post
Send private message

Geektastic:

 

How much do the cars cost in NZ?

 

 

They range in cost, from around $140K to $250K depending on Battery Capacity, Dual Motor/Single Motor, Auto Pilot Hardware/Software and a raft of other options... If you want the top model, a P100D with Ludicrous Mode (i think it can now do zero to 100km/h in under 2.5sec), you wont get much back from $250K 

 

 

 

 


And why Hamilton not Auckland? I thought the cars were expensive and Hamilton certainly does not have the reputation of being a place full of wealthy people wanting to demonstrate their wealth and status with their car choice. Auckland, however....does.

 

 

This is all about range and access to the rest of NZ, well the North Is.

 

If you own one in Auckland, which as you mention has the wealth etc, then you charge at home and have range of 500km+ so no need for superchargers in Auckland (yet). However Hamilton is very central. If you live north of Auckland, you leave home with a full charge, and then stop in Hamilton for Lunch and a recharge, before you access the rest of the North Is. Or if you live central to lower NI, you do the same when going to Auckland etc.

 

The plan is to scatter these along SH1, but at the moment, Hamilton is a very logical choice for the first location... 


2208 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 366


  # 1757576 6-Apr-2017 14:31
Send private message

How will these charging stations cope once the EV pool increases? Sylvia park has two spots and have regularly seen both in use, at first they were empty 99.9% of the time (situated close to entrance also :P )


57 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 6


  # 1757592 6-Apr-2017 14:43
Send private message

Wade:

How will these charging stations cope once the EV pool increases? Sylvia park has two spots and have regularly seen both in use, at first they were empty 99.9% of the time (situated close to entrance also :P )



I can't comment on all EV charging stations, but the ones discussed here are only for Tesla's. There are four chargers which should cope for quite sometime with the number of Tesla's in NZ now and probably for quite some time.

I know in the states, you are charged for parking in a supercharging spot if your car has finished charging. So you can't simply park there for as long as your shopping trip!

5376 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 2201


  # 1757600 6-Apr-2017 14:51
2 people support this post
Send private message

Shouldn't they be locating these on the new bypass. I know Te Rapa isn't that far from it. 

 

But why divert into Hamilton at all vs fill up and go somewhere beside the highway?

 

Ditto Auckland.  Why on K-Road vs one of the motorway service centres?

 

 





Mike

57 posts

Master Geek
+1 received by user: 6


  # 1757603 6-Apr-2017 14:58
One person supports this post
Send private message

MikeAqua:

 

Shouldn't they be locating these on the new bypass. I know Te Rapa isn't that far from it. 

 

But why divert into Hamilton at all vs fill up and go somewhere beside the highway?

 

Ditto Auckland.  Why on K-Road vs one of the motorway service centres?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Retail Shopping Centre probably has something to do with it.

 

It takes a while to charge - even with a Supercharger. So they will want these attached to some sort of Food / Retail offering

 

No one will want to stand around on the side of a motorway for 30mins while their car charges.




5303 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1164

Trusted
Subscriber

  # 1757790 6-Apr-2017 20:18
Send private message

MikeAqua:

 

Shouldn't they be locating these on the new bypass. I know Te Rapa isn't that far from it. 

 

But why divert into Hamilton at all vs fill up and go somewhere beside the highway?

 

Ditto Auckland.  Why on K-Road vs one of the motorway service centres?

 

 

 

 

They also have to locate them where there is electrical infrastructure sufficient to power them. 

The Superchargers in Hamilton have a couple of fairly large - what I assume - are battery storage units...so they can deliver 120kw DC to a Tesla while charging the battery storage at 50kwDC (or 63kw - whatever is locally available). 

They don't install this level of power reticulation by the road side in NZ. That limit the selection for locations........unless you want to spend a huge sum of money building a new high tension power network to random roadside locations.  NZ isn't that well wired. :-) 





____________________________________________________
I'm on a high fibre diet. 

 

High fibre diet


3818 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 1164


  # 1757797 6-Apr-2017 20:44
Send private message

salttlas:

MikeAqua:


Shouldn't they be locating these on the new bypass. I know Te Rapa isn't that far from it. 


But why divert into Hamilton at all vs fill up and go somewhere beside the highway?


Ditto Auckland.  Why on K-Road vs one of the motorway service centres?


 



 


Retail Shopping Centre probably has something to do with it.



It's probably a nice spot to advertise your premium car brand too

12746 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 4247

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 1757949 7-Apr-2017 09:33
One person supports this post
Send private message

salttlas:

MikeAqua:


Shouldn't they be locating these on the new bypass. I know Te Rapa isn't that far from it. 


But why divert into Hamilton at all vs fill up and go somewhere beside the highway?


Ditto Auckland.  Why on K-Road vs one of the motorway service centres?


 



 


Retail Shopping Centre probably has something to do with it.


It takes a while to charge - even with a Supercharger. So they will want these attached to some sort of Food / Retail offering


No one will want to stand around on the side of a motorway for 30mins while their car charges.



A UK style bacon buttie van in the lay-by should solve that! 😀





12746 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 4247

Trusted
Lifetime subscriber

  # 1757950 7-Apr-2017 09:35
Send private message

wellygary:
salttlas:

MikeAqua:


Shouldn't they be locating these on the new bypass. I know Te Rapa isn't that far from it. 


But why divert into Hamilton at all vs fill up and go somewhere beside the highway?


Ditto Auckland.  Why on K-Road vs one of the motorway service centres?


 



 


Retail Shopping Centre probably has something to do with it.



It's probably a nice spot to advertise your premium car brand too


From reputation I would think a central Hamilton location was a more appropriate location to advertise stab proof vests and Mace....!





1420 posts

Uber Geek
+1 received by user: 618


  # 1757975 7-Apr-2017 09:59
Send private message

Linuxluver:

 

MikeAqua:

 

Shouldn't they be locating these on the new bypass. I know Te Rapa isn't that far from it. 

 

But why divert into Hamilton at all vs fill up and go somewhere beside the highway?

 

Ditto Auckland.  Why on K-Road vs one of the motorway service centres?

 

 

 

 

They also have to locate them where there is electrical infrastructure sufficient to power them. 

The Superchargers in Hamilton have a couple of fairly large - what I assume - are battery storage units...so they can deliver 120kw DC to a Tesla while charging the battery storage at 50kwDC (or 63kw - whatever is locally available). 

They don't install this level of power reticulation by the road side in NZ. That limit the selection for locations........unless you want to spend a huge sum of money building a new high tension power network to random roadside locations.  NZ isn't that well wired. :-) 

 

 

That makes sense, the electrical layout in that area is pretty robust - its about 500m from the Kapua datacenter which has pretty high-end electron requirements.


1 | 2 | 3
View this topic in a long page with up to 500 replies per page Create new topic



Twitter »

Follow us to receive Twitter updates when new discussions are posted in our forums:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when news items and blogs are posted in our frontpage:



Follow us to receive Twitter updates when tech item prices are listed in our price comparison site:





News »

Video game market in New Zealand passes half billion dollar mark
Posted 24-May-2019 16:15


WLG-X festival to celebrate creativity and innovation
Posted 22-May-2019 17:53


HPE to acquire supercomputing leader Cray
Posted 20-May-2019 11:07


Techweek starting around NZ today
Posted 20-May-2019 09:52


Porirua City Council first to adopt new council software solution Datascape
Posted 15-May-2019 12:00


New survey provides insight into schools' technology challenges and plans
Posted 15-May-2019 09:30


Apple Music now available on Alexa devices in Australia and New Zealand
Posted 15-May-2019 09:11


Make a stand against cyberbullying this Pink Shirt Day
Posted 14-May-2019 20:23


Samsung first TV manufacturer to launch the Apple TV App and Airplay 2
Posted 14-May-2019 20:11


Vodafone New Zealand sold
Posted 14-May-2019 07:25


Kordia boosts cloud performance with locally-hosted Microsoft Azure ExpressRoute
Posted 8-May-2019 10:25


Microsoft Azure ExpressRoute in New Zealand opens up faster, more secure internet for Kiwi businesses
Posted 8-May-2019 09:39


Vocus Communications to deliver Microsoft Azure Cloud Solutions through Azure ExpressRoute
Posted 8-May-2019 09:25


Independent NZ feature film #statusPending to premiere during WLG-X
Posted 6-May-2019 22:13


The ultimate dog photoshoot with Nokia 9 PureView #ForgottenDogsofInstagram
Posted 6-May-2019 09:41



Geekzone Live »

Try automatic live updates from Geekzone directly in your browser, without refreshing the page, with Geekzone Live now.


Support Geekzone »

Our community of supporters help make Geekzone possible. Click the button below to join them.

Support Geezone on PressPatron



Are you subscribed to our RSS feed? You can download the latest headlines and summaries from our stories directly to your computer or smartphone by using a feed reader.

Alternatively, you can receive a daily email with Geekzone updates.