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  # 1803838 20-Jun-2017 09:37
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PhantomNVD: Now here is an "EV" I'd REALLY love to own 😋

http://www.driven.co.nz/reviews/reviews/audi-q7-e-tron-future-first-with-torque-on-tap/


Being picky but I'd call it a hybrid rather than EV.

I don't think hybrids should be exempt from RUC personally. (or should there be a imimium pure EV range before you are exempt)

For 168k I'd buy a Tesla.

Mind you I don't have a boat.



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  # 1803841 20-Jun-2017 09:38
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PhantomNVD: Now here is an "EV" I'd REALLY love to own 😋

http://www.driven.co.nz/reviews/reviews/audi-q7-e-tron-future-first-with-torque-on-tap/

 

perfect - drive 56ks away from home then start to poison everyone

 

 

Well, I quite like the concept of this vehicle and it only costs a mere $158,400 and has no road user charges. Sure you could get 465km of pure electric range if you bought the Tesla Model X 100D, but I think this will cost well over $200,000 here?

 

If you're worried about being poisoned by emissions, you will never fly or go on a cruise or do just about anything else! By the time the world is "all-electric" it will be far too late to "save the planet"!


 
 
 
 


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  # 1803850 20-Jun-2017 09:47
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joker97:

 

PhantomNVD: Now here is an "EV" I'd REALLY love to own 😋

http://www.driven.co.nz/reviews/reviews/audi-q7-e-tron-future-first-with-torque-on-tap/

 

perfect - drive 56ks away from home then start to poison everyone

 

 

Well, I quite like the concept of this vehicle and it only costs a mere $158,400 and has no road user charges. Sure you could get 465km of pure electric range if you bought the Tesla Model X 100D, but I think this will cost well over $200,000 here?

 

If you're worried about being poisoned by emissions, you will never fly or go on a cruise or do just about anything else! By the time the world is "all-electric" it will be far too late to "save the planet"!

 

 

I was merely pointing out that it's not an EV, or one with very short range.





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  # 1803853 20-Jun-2017 09:49
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By the time the world is "all-electric" it will be far too late to "save the planet"!

 

 

That is a pretty pessimistic thought. Are you saying we are all going to die anyway, so it doesn't matter what we do? Your children won't thank you for that.

 

 





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  # 1803854 20-Jun-2017 09:50
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frednz:

 

joker97:

 

PhantomNVD: Now here is an "EV" I'd REALLY love to own 😋

http://www.driven.co.nz/reviews/reviews/audi-q7-e-tron-future-first-with-torque-on-tap/

 

perfect - drive 56ks away from home then start to poison everyone

 

 

Well, I quite like the concept of this vehicle and it only costs a mere $158,400 and has no road user charges. Sure you could get 465km of pure electric range if you bought the Tesla Model X 100D, but I think this will cost well over $200,000 here?

 

If you're worried about being poisoned by emissions, you will never fly or go on a cruise or do just about anything else! By the time the world is "all-electric" it will be far too late to "save the planet"!

 

 

Sure, it's a nice car. A Tesla Model X 100D base is just under 170K. Every EV helps to eliminate air pollution which saves lives, i remain hopeful we an avert the worst partly through widespread EV adoption!


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  # 1803860 20-Jun-2017 09:59
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http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/92140044/wellingtons-trolley-buses-to-continue-as-uncertainty-remains-over-replacements

 

This would be a real shame.  To be fair the bus operator has signed a contract with Wrightspeed who have failed to deliver a prototype for testing.

 

NZ Bus is going to lose two thirds of its bus service business with GWRC.  So all bets could be off.





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  # 1804194 20-Jun-2017 17:12
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frednz:

 

By the time the world is "all-electric" it will be far too late to "save the planet"!

 

 

That is a pretty pessimistic thought. Are you saying we are all going to die anyway, so it doesn't matter what we do? Your children won't thank you for that.

 

 

 

 

No, I'm not saying that I'm actually in favour of doing as much as we can to combat global warming! But I just wonder whether we are doing too little too late to actually be able to reverse the process. But perhaps someone more expert than myself can tell me what proportion of the world's emissions is caused by ICE vehicles?


 
 
 
 




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  # 1804581 21-Jun-2017 12:38
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Rikkitic:

 

frednz:

 

By the time the world is "all-electric" it will be far too late to "save the planet"!

 

 

That is a pretty pessimistic thought. Are you saying we are all going to die anyway, so it doesn't matter what we do? Your children won't thank you for that.

 

 

 

 

Actually, if you want to see some thoughts that are even more pessimistic than mine, this article says that:

 

The human race must start leaving Earth within 30 years to avoid being wiped out by over-population and climate change, Professor Stephen Hawking has warned. 

 

Making an impassioned speech at the Starmus science festival in Trondheim, Norway, the astrophysicist said it was crucial to establish colonies on Mars and the Moon, and take a Noah's Ark of plants, animals, fungi and insects, to start creating a new world. 

 

Prof Hawking said it was only a matter of time before the Earth as we know it is destroyed by an asteroid strike, soaring temperatures or over-population.

 


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  # 1804588 21-Jun-2017 12:45
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frednz:

 

Rikkitic:

 

frednz:

 

By the time the world is "all-electric" it will be far too late to "save the planet"!

 

 

That is a pretty pessimistic thought. Are you saying we are all going to die anyway, so it doesn't matter what we do? Your children won't thank you for that.

 

 

 

 

Actually, if you want to see some thoughts that are even more pessimistic than mine, this article says that:

 

The human race must start leaving Earth within 30 years to avoid being wiped out by over-population and climate change, Professor Stephen Hawking has warned. 

 

Making an impassioned speech at the Starmus science festival in Trondheim, Norway, the astrophysicist said it was crucial to establish colonies on Mars and the Moon, and take a Noah's Ark of plants, animals, fungi and insects, to start creating a new world. 

 

Prof Hawking said it was only a matter of time before the Earth as we know it is destroyed by an asteroid strike, soaring temperatures or over-population.

 

 

 

 

He sure has a good crystal ball!





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frednz:

 

Rikkitic:

 

frednz:

 

By the time the world is "all-electric" it will be far too late to "save the planet"!

 

 

That is a pretty pessimistic thought. Are you saying we are all going to die anyway, so it doesn't matter what we do? Your children won't thank you for that.

 

 

 

 

Actually, if you want to see some thoughts that are even more pessimistic than mine, this article says that:

 

The human race must start leaving Earth within 30 years to avoid being wiped out by over-population and climate change, Professor Stephen Hawking has warned. 

 

Making an impassioned speech at the Starmus science festival in Trondheim, Norway, the astrophysicist said it was crucial to establish colonies on Mars and the Moon, and take a Noah's Ark of plants, animals, fungi and insects, to start creating a new world. 

 

Prof Hawking said it was only a matter of time before the Earth as we know it is destroyed by an asteroid strike, soaring temperatures or over-population.

 

 

 

 

I have a lot of respect for Stephen Hawking and this idea is not new. Decades ago Robert Heinlein said 'the earth is much too fragile a basket for mankind to put all of its eggs in' (quoted according to my unreliable memory).

 

I personally feel it is important to colonise other worlds, and I hope we do before it is too late. But I have a hard time following the logic that we should do it because we are making the earth uninhabitable. Asteroids aside, the earth is still a far, far better starting point for establishing a viable human settlement, regardless of how polluted or overpopulated it is, than any other place imaginable in the solar system. Even if the atmosphere is poisoned, at least it is an atmosphere, which is a lot more than can be said for the moon or mars. The amount of technology needed to make or keep the earth habitable will always be vastly less than anything needed on mars or elsewhere. We should definitely go to mars and the other planets, and we should make them as liveable as possible and establish settlements there, but they will never be as people friendly as the planet we evolved on. I just don't see that as a sensible argument.

 

 

 

 





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  # 1804624 21-Jun-2017 13:57
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I can't see, no matter how hostile here, how mars is anywhere near as pleasant. Think about it.

Of course anything's possible, like living peacefully and treating people kindly.




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Sorry if this has already been brought up, but what does the government plan to do about the large drop in fuel taxes that they currently collect and use for road building and maintenance? The only alternative that I can see is for user charges like diesel vehicles have.


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  # 1804629 21-Jun-2017 14:02
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The government plans? Never! Only react, and usually under really short sighted advice.




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I personally feel it is important to colonise other worlds, and I hope we do before it is too late.

 

 

One of my regrets is that in my lifetime I am unlikely to see FTL or interstellar travel.

 

And I would like to explore a new world too.  Not some scabby old rock like Mars.  I'd like to see a new world with with evolved biota.  Large plants and mobile animals.





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And I would like to explore a new world too.  Not some scabby old rock like Mars.  I'd like to see a new world with with evolved biota.  Large plants and mobile animals.

 

 

And all of them will want to eat you.

 

 





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