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Wannabe Geek


# 214417 10-May-2017 17:15
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Hello,

 

I would like to hear from anyone in New Zealand who knows someone using one of the Chinese two way radios listed in the subject.

 

I wish to use the radio for vehicle communication on the VHF frequencies and would be keen to hear from someone who can confirm that the radio can be programmed to work on, say, 150.15 MHz.

 

The instructions would indicate that this should be possible and I feel it may be an advantage to confirm that it works in New Zealand.

 

Cheers,

 

Greg.


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Geek


  # 1779243 10-May-2017 19:00
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Hi,

 

IIRC  150.15MHz is for licensed commercial use (E band).

 

Assuming you are licensed to use 150.15MHz, the radios you have referred to probably won't be type approved for NZ operation on that frequency.

 

May be prudent to check with the RSM - or at least look for relevant regulations or Gazette notices.

 

If you have not paid for a license, then you may have to look at using a PRS channel (say UHF) - plenty of room there, and lots of affordable radios available.  The PRS channels are subject to (free) general user radio license (GURL) conditions,

 

cheers,

 

Dave

 

 




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Wannabe Geek


  # 1779302 10-May-2017 20:19
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Thanks for the advice Dave,

 

I will check with the RSM about approval for this type of radio.

 

To elaborate a little, the radio will be used to monitor the log truck traffic on our narrow winding gravel road that is unsuitable for the heavy traffic we have.

 

Cheers, Greg.


 
 
 
 


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Uber Geek


  # 1779336 10-May-2017 20:46
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One of these I take it?

The legalities of having one of these is somewhat.. hmm. As they are open band they are able to RX and TX - the use of them unlicensed is technically not OK. And usually not an approved device for use on NZ spectrum. It would be hard to prove you didn't tx on it if someone took it up as a case I suspect.

I have a PX777 UHF for PRS use, but they don't like (or allow the sale even) the use of them in NZ because it has the ability to tx on HAM frequencies. Been bought up a few times. Because you can it is therefore bad. (which is a little silly)




164969

239530

BRYAN HESLOP LOGGING LIMITED

ENX8

150.150000

RAI VALLEY FORESTRY AREA

BQ27 488241

Land Simplex

Current



164969

239530

BRYAN HESLOP LOGGING LIMITED

ENX8

150.150000

TASMAN DISTRICT TLA



Land Simplex

Current



164969

239530

BRYAN HESLOP LOGGING LIMITED

ENX8

150.150000

MARLBOROUGH DISTRICT TLA



Land Simplex

Current



165392

239924

ABC FOREST HARVESTING & MARKETING LIMITED

ENX5

150.112500

ALL NORTH ISLAND



Land Simplex

Current



166130

240309

D G GLENN LOGGING LIMITED

ENX8

150.150000

HAWKES BAY AREA

BK39 288051

Land Simplex


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Uber Geek


  # 1779345 10-May-2017 20:59
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But do remember, you aren't meant for the transmission unless you work for them and it is for part of the role to use the radio. They've paid for the use of the airwaves.

 

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1989/0148/latest/DLM197340.html 

 

Even buying a 2nd hand scanner would suffice to listen. But remember legally you can't use what you hear for anything or act upon it without scrutiny. 

 

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1989/0148/latest/DLM197387.html 




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Wannabe Geek


  # 1779411 11-May-2017 08:15
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Hi Oblivian,

 

Yes, As you noticed, there are many licenses on that particular frequency and no doubt many more users such as log trucking companies and private users such as myself who have permission from the license holders to use that frequency.

 

Channel 8 (150.15 MHz) is used on the public roads to call in the route for logging trucks and associated traffic.

 

If all local road users were to listen in on channel 8, many inconveniences, close calls and more serious accidents involving log trucks and logging contractors would be avoided. I purchased my radio after such an altercation with a truck and have saved myself many problems in the last 10 years or so.

 

A suitable vehicle mounted, good quality VHF radio such as Tait will set one back at least $1500 installed. A lot of money to most road users. For a couple of hundred dollars these cheaper radios such as the QYT would provide a good solution to improving safety on these narrow, gravel country roads that are really unsuitable for current commercial traffic.

 

Reading between the lines I get the impression that these VHF/UHF radios are frowned on because they are user programmable and therefore regulation of the user by the appropriate authorities may be problematic.

 

I tend to agree with your 'which is a little silly' comment above.   

 

I am still be keen to hear from someone who has used a programmable radio on the VHF band, like the QYT, proving that they are compatible with the VHF radios currently in use such as my ICOM F121s.

 

Cheers,

 

Greg.


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  # 1779801 11-May-2017 18:25
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That leads to an entirely different issue.

 

Down that end of the range the radios can be digital, or have propriety protocols they transmit with that normal radios won't be able to decode or tx on

 

 




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Wannabe Geek


  # 1779838 11-May-2017 19:36
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Thanks Oblivian,

 

That makes sense to me.

 

Do you happen to know how I can interpret the specs to see if there will be any compatibility issues.

 

I Guess the real proof would be to try one.

 

Cheers,

 

Greg.


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