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  Reply # 1783269 16-May-2017 17:08
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You've missed the bit about the $150 fine for inappropriate use of fog lights. Having the rear one on would be asking for it.

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  Reply # 1783306 16-May-2017 17:37
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I just stay well away from such idiots and hope that there is a policeman round the corner...!






 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1783311 16-May-2017 17:46
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ratsun81:

 

TimA:

 

trig42:

 

I wish there was a signal for the eejits with a European car that think it is cool to drive with their fog lamps on and don't realise there car has a really bright rear fog lamp shining in everyones eyes that has to follow them.

 

 

 

 

I wired up my rear foglamps so they are on both sides on the beema. Independent of the front lamps so i can roll around with steeze cause my front foglamps are on.

 

But, My rears are on a switch and i can toggle them, flash them etc, When its dark its hard for them not to be blinding. Seems to work well..

 

 

Yeah you really shouldnt be rolling round with your rear fog lamps on blinding people. But for getting attention to no lights on it might be effective

 

From the road code: 

 

Dip your headlamps in fog

 

If you drive with your lamps on full beam in fog, the light will just reflect back on you. Dip your lights – it will be much easier to see.

 

Don't just turn your park lights on. They are hard for oncoming drivers to see and do little to improve your vision.

 

You can use front fog lights when driving in fog. These have a wide, low beam and produce either a white or yellow light.

 

Rear fog lights, which produce a high-intensity red light, should only be used when visibility is very bad. (In normal conditions they can dazzle drivers following you.)

 

Fog lights should be switched off as driving conditions improve.

 

 

I'll admit, I've driven home in conditions with my headlights OFF (turning them on for oncomming etc) in Fog, it's been easier to see!

 

Much like camera flash shadows, if the light source is higher than your line of sight (street lighting) it can cast shadows and be easier to see objects than droplets of water reflecting all and sundry like a solid white beam out front and no definition.

 

 

 

Hyundais also have a separate front/rear fog control. Cant turn fogs on without being in parklights only. And can't turn rear on without the front being active (and its flick type only so turns off when you change mode) https://www.manualslib.com/manual/623622/Hyundai-I30.html?page=125 Much handy the last few weeks with the CHC fog


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  Reply # 1783329 16-May-2017 18:24
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Bung: You've missed the bit about the $150 fine for inappropriate use of fog lights. Having the rear one on would be asking for it.

 

Not just the rears, but front as well I would have thought. Same thing, only allowed to be used in the fog - too much glare in clear weather.


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  Reply # 1783378 16-May-2017 20:17
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I mention the rear lights because mĺost patrol cars don't seem to be bothered enough to u-turn and stop a car coming towards them with fog lights on in fine weather. Coming up behind a christmas tree of red light might be another matter.

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  Reply # 1783384 16-May-2017 20:31
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I find it especially frustrating driving some cars which tend to dim all the internal displays to the point of being unreadable if you dare to drive with the lights on during the day (which I always try to do), pointing at you early 2000s Subarus!!


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  Reply # 1783396 16-May-2017 21:01
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Bung: I mention the rear lights because mĺost patrol cars don't seem to be bothered enough to u-turn and stop a car coming towards them with fog lights on in fine weather. Coming up behind a christmas tree of red light might be another matter.

 

I don't think the cops can be bothered stopping anyone for driving with their fog lights no matter which way they're going no matter how fine the weather is. When you see how wide spread this behaviour is, the capacity for revenue gathering is huge.

 

I think driving with fog lights especially ,in the wet, is very inconsiderate. It's dazzling and serves no useful purpose.

 

it is acceptable to use them in fog though.....


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  Reply # 1783428 16-May-2017 23:24
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TimA:

 

trig42:

 

I wired up my rear foglamps so they are on both sides on the beema. Independent of the front lamps so i can roll around with steeze cause my front foglamps are on.

 

But, My rears are on a switch and i can toggle them, flash them etc, When its dark its hard for them not to be blinding. Seems to work well..

 

 

Yeah you really shouldnt be rolling round with your rear fog lamps on blinding people.

 

 

 

 

Dead right. They should never be used in anything other than fog. Use at any other time is just blatantly inconsiderate. In clear conditions they add nothing to your vision while taking away everyone else's.





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  Reply # 1783429 16-May-2017 23:31
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MikeB4:

 

I love automatic lights

 

 

I love them too, most of the time. The way my car is setup it dims the dashboard when the lights turn on, even if I turn them on manually. Which means if I want to have the lights on during the day (which I used to want when driving for long stretches and when it was fairly low light/visibility), that also meant I wasn't able to read the instrument panel, so no way of seeing speed etc.

 

"Fixed it" by getting retrofitted daytime running lights. They are only on when the low beams are off. And everything is automatic, so easy runnings now.





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  Reply # 1783446 17-May-2017 01:01
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WyleECoyoteNZ:

 

 

 

Seriously though, I followed a vehicle in central Wellington a while back who had no lights on, and this was when it was properly dark. I can only guess that the driver figured he\she could see alright because of the street lighting.

 

 

I must admit to doing this - when you are under the yellow street lamps of the big city it seems like daylight when you come from little old napier. 

 

Normally I just switch off and on again if the lights are off. 

 

If they only have their park lights on or one of their headlamps is out (every day i see this) then i will give them a quick double high beam flash. 

 

You hope that down the road when they finally realise, that they understand what you were trying to tell them. 

 

Edit: I have noticed no one flashes their lights anymore when a speed trap is ahead in hawkes bay or anywhere in NZ i have traveled to recently, and the victoria tunnel in wellington seems very quiet - like you could walk through without ear plugs. The uber driver took quite a bit of persuasion to honk his horn for poor young Phillis. 





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  Reply # 1783447 17-May-2017 01:24
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raytaylor: ...

 

 

 

 

 

Edit: I have noticed no one flashes their lights anymore when a speed trap is ahead in hawkes bay or anywhere in NZ i have traveled to recently, ... 

 

2-3 years ago, there was a scare on Facebook along the lines of if you flash your lights at somebody, some local Maori mongrel mob gang would hunt you down. Or some such scare story. Later on, there also was the story that it's illegal to flash your lights and that you could be fined.

 

Maybe those are reasons why this behaviour is getting less?


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  Reply # 1783459 17-May-2017 06:34
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reven:

 

openmedia:

 

As usual for this time of year there are a number of people on the road with their lights off. What's your preferred way to indicate "politely" to the other driver so they turn their lights on.

 

I've tried to help two drivers recently who were both very confused why I was

 

  • Honking
  • Flashing my headlights
  • Slowed down in-front of them with my hazard lights on
  • On arm out of the driver window with my hand "flashing" - open/closing fist.

With one driver I tried the above with no luck and then they proceeded to give me the finger when I matched their speed and tried to get them to roll down their window so I speak to them. The drive proceeded to speed off and I finally noticed a couple of minutes later that they'd turned their lights on.

 

About the only time drivers take notice of a headlight flash is when they think a police speed trap might be ahead.

 

So what's your experience and any tips for dealing with NZ drivers?

 

 

 

 

 

 

honestly if you did those things to me, i would be thinking "what the f*** is his problem".  

 

 

I disagree, although I drive everywhere with my headlights on anyway but this is similar to how I would try and alert the person.

 

I had a women travelling from Drury to Pukekohe before the street lights were put in, so pitch black without any lights on. I was madly trying to signal her, I ended up calling *555 and the police pulled her over, she was completely oblivious to the fact she couldn't see the road.





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  Reply # 1783467 17-May-2017 07:07
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AFAIK Police policy is to breath test at any stop. The way some drivers seem oblivious to no light in front of them and attempts to get their attention maybe a breath test is the answer.

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  Reply # 1783482 17-May-2017 07:56
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trig42:

 

 

 

I wish there was a signal for the eejits with a European car that think it is cool to drive with their fog lamps on and don't realise there car has a really bright rear fog lamp shining in everyones eyes that has to follow them.

 

 

 

 

THIS!!!!!!!  Very prevalent now that old BMW's / Merc's are the "car to have" for some groups.


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  Reply # 1783539 17-May-2017 09:57
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Where I have my left hand on the wheel, just happens to obscure the dash light that tells me if my lights or on.
As a result, I always have to lift my hand to double check I have put the lights on.

 

My 96 Civic was impossible to read the speedo at night without the lights on, this is not the case in the 2014 Mazda 3 - however having the lights on immediately dims the touch screen/reversing camera making it impossible to see in conditions where it might be good to have lights on - so I can understand not wanting to turn on the lights if you want to play with the touch screen (though of course Mazda says you shouldn't use the touch screen when driving)

 

I am shocked that the road code says that lights must be on 30 minutes AFTER sunset .. I always thought it was 30 minutes before ...

 

 


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