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  Reply # 1783553 17-May-2017 10:10
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nakedmolerat:
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nakedmolerat: If Outlander suits you - I higly recommend to get brand new. You can't go wrong with 10 years warranty from Mitsubishi.

With that budget - I will try to get new or close to new (less than 3 yrs). Checkout Honda CRV but please don't go near a Holden!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You mean a Daewoo?

 



Daewoo is ugly but more reliable than Holden!

 

 

 

They are all part of the same group - General Motors. Vauxhall/Opel/Daewoo/Holden/Chev/many others

 

 

 

 

All the new line up apart from astra are daewoo manufactured cars.
No they are not of a greater quality. Give me an Australian Holden any day of the week. 





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  Reply # 1783561 17-May-2017 10:14
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We bought a Hyundai ix35 diesel 6 months back, we've been very happy with it. Its got all the grunt we need to tow trailers and caravans, but is still zippy off the mark around town. Its the Elite model, so has heated leather seats and other snazzy bits. Its an NZ model, so no issues with the controls. No satnav, which I'm fine with. The only thing its really missing is Bluetooth for handsfree phoning, but I'll eventually get an aftermarket one installed.


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  Reply # 1783565 17-May-2017 10:18
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TimA:

 

lxsw20:

 

nakedmolerat:
TimA:

 

nakedmolerat: If Outlander suits you - I higly recommend to get brand new. You can't go wrong with 10 years warranty from Mitsubishi.

With that budget - I will try to get new or close to new (less than 3 yrs). Checkout Honda CRV but please don't go near a Holden!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You mean a Daewoo?

 



Daewoo is ugly but more reliable than Holden!

 

 

 

They are all part of the same group - General Motors. Vauxhall/Opel/Daewoo/Holden/Chev/many others

 

 

 

 

All the new line up apart from astra are daewoo manufactured cars.
No they are not of a greater quality. Give me an Australian Holden any day of the week. 

 

 

 

 

Our experience with about 15 Captivas at work was very poor. About 2/3 of them suffered from significant mechanical or electrical faults. Needless to say we don't lease them anymore and personally I would avoid them like the plague.


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  Reply # 1783584 17-May-2017 10:40
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Our experience with about 15 Captivas at work was very poor. About 2/3 of them suffered from significant mechanical or electrical faults. Needless to say we don't lease them anymore and personally I would avoid them like the plague.

 

 

Yes we crossed the Craptiva off our list after some pre-shopping googling. We crossed off the Kuga even earlier, not because of anything we heard about it, but because the wife didn't want to be a 40-something woman driving around labelled Cougar.

 

We tested some Nissans and Mazdas which were fine, but didn't float our boats.


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  Reply # 1783587 17-May-2017 10:46
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I'm looking at buying a new mazda CX9, but, waiting for carplay to be shipped. 

 

Why are mazda so slow at this? I've been waiting a while so i've had to take the ford territory in for another service... cost $2500  -on top of normal service items, bump stops broken,  ball joints needed replacing for the umpteenth time, bonnet struts failed, service took so much time they didn't even have time to look into the power loss over 4500 revs, the rattling noise at 30kph, the software error which causes the temp control buttons to lag. 

 

The shutdown of aussie car manufacturing plants is a blessing to the entire world. 

 

I did consider skoda kodiaq, but, i can't get my head around the dsg gearbox (tested the skoda superb) with the standing start lag between pushing the accelerator and actual acceleration. 


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  Reply # 1783594 17-May-2017 10:59
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I had a look at most SUVs three years ago, but chose none as all had limited boot/luggage space. Went for an Outback instead, which I've been very happy with.


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  Reply # 1783608 17-May-2017 11:49
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A 2012/2013 Gen 1 Mazda CX5 Diesel should be within your price range now. Gen 1 CX5 is a bit noisy with NVH but it is generally reliable. The NVH issue was addressed to some extent with the Gen 1 facelift and address to a greater extent with Gen2 CX5.

 

Diesel CX5 has massive amount of torque - 420Nm and very fuel efficient. Real world fuel consumption (5 - 6L/100Km highway and 7 - 8L /100KM Mixed Urban-Highway). Torque is perfect for towing. Please note that early Diesel CX5 has oil rising issue and Mazda issued a TSB to fix the problem. If considering CX5 Diesel, make sure the TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) has been done for the diesel engine.

 

If you budget can stretch a bit further, would highly recommend a Gen 1.5 (facelift) Diesel CX5.


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  Reply # 1783609 17-May-2017 11:52
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I'm looking at buying a new mazda CX9, but, waiting for carplay to be shipped. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I recall Mazda indicating a retrofitting of Carplay and Android Auto for recent models including the CX9 - have they not yet committed to doing so?

 

If you had that assurance then you could look at buying the car at that point and coping without it initially.

 

Certainly a good-value vehicle (and fairly economical, in theory at least), and one I'd look at if I was looking for an SUV (oh, and if my wife was ok with it - she loathes SUVs with a passion, so I doubt we'll ever be in the market for one!).


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  Reply # 1783611 17-May-2017 11:57
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A 2012/2013 Gen 1 Mazda CX5 Diesel should be within your price range now. Gen 1 CX5 is a bit noisy with NVH but it is generally reliable. The NVH issue was addressed to some extent with the Gen 1 facelift and address to a greater extent with Gen2 CX5.

 

Diesel CX5 has massive amount of torque - 420Nm and very fuel efficient. Real world fuel consumption (5 - 6L/100Km highway and 7 - 8L /100KM Mixed Urban-Highway). Torque is perfect for towing. Please note that early Diesel CX5 has oil rising issue and Mazda issued a TSB to fix the problem. If considering CX5 Diesel, make sure the TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) has been done for the diesel engine.

 

If you budget can stretch a bit further, would highly recommend a Gen 1.5 (facelift) Diesel CX5.

 

 

Plus if you're looking at diesel, make sure you fully consider the implications of the need for the seemingly random need to burn off particulate in a modern diesel engine; this has been well-documented in other GZ threads. I'd think carefully about buying a diesel unless I was regularly driving at open road speeds. I understand that problems with some of the early CX5 diesels were due to people not ensuring the DPF burn-off was carried out in full (something I have never been warned of by Mazda).


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  Reply # 1783619 17-May-2017 12:12
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Plus if you're looking at diesel, make sure you fully consider the implications of the need for the seemingly random need to burn off particulate in a modern diesel engine; this has been well-documented in other GZ threads. I'd think carefully about buying a diesel unless I was regularly driving at open road speeds. I understand that problems with some of the early CX5 diesels were due to people not ensuring the DPF burn-off was carried out in full (something I have never been warned of by Mazda).

 

 

 

 

Very good point. If you mainly do short trips (ie. < 3 kms or so) then Diesel CX5 is not a good fit. The diesel DPF filter will need longer trip for re-generation.

 

Personally, I do a mix of short and motorway trips and the Gen 1.5 CX5 Diesel has been very reliable.

 

I agreed that dealers should be a lot more up front about DPF and short trips can cause problems. I did my own research before deciding that a diesel would work fine.


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  Reply # 1783647 17-May-2017 12:47
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surfisup1000:

 

I'm looking at buying a new mazda CX9, but, waiting for carplay to be shipped. 

 

 

I recall Mazda indicating a retrofitting of Carplay and Android Auto for recent models including the CX9 - have they not yet committed to doing so?

 

If you had that assurance then you could look at buying the car at that point and coping without it initially.

 

Certainly a good-value vehicle (and fairly economical, in theory at least), and one I'd look at if I was looking for an SUV (oh, and if my wife was ok with it - she loathes SUVs with a passion, so I doubt we'll ever be in the market for one!).

 

 

The US distributor has committed to retro-fitting it to all models featuring the MZD entertainment system, albeit with some models requiring additional hardware to be installed. So far I'm not aware of any commitment from Mazda NZ to offer it here, but I would imagine it is highly likely that they will. I would like to get it done when my next service is due in September.




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  Reply # 1783659 17-May-2017 13:09
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smalltrader:

 

A 2012/2013 Gen 1 Mazda CX5 Diesel should be within your price range now. Gen 1 CX5 is a bit noisy with NVH but it is generally reliable. The NVH issue was addressed to some extent with the Gen 1 facelift and address to a greater extent with Gen2 CX5.

 

Diesel CX5 has massive amount of torque - 420Nm and very fuel efficient. Real world fuel consumption (5 - 6L/100Km highway and 7 - 8L /100KM Mixed Urban-Highway). Torque is perfect for towing. Please note that early Diesel CX5 has oil rising issue and Mazda issued a TSB to fix the problem. If considering CX5 Diesel, make sure the TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) has been done for the diesel engine.

 

If you budget can stretch a bit further, would highly recommend a Gen 1.5 (facelift) Diesel CX5.

 

 

Plus if you're looking at diesel, make sure you fully consider the implications of the need for the seemingly random need to burn off particulate in a modern diesel engine; this has been well-documented in other GZ threads. I'd think carefully about buying a diesel unless I was regularly driving at open road speeds. I understand that problems with some of the early CX5 diesels were due to people not ensuring the DPF burn-off was carried out in full (something I have never been warned of by Mazda).

 

 

Thanks for this. I was thinking of trying a diesel but with my 6-7km commute to work daily and barely going above 60... I'll be ticking diesel off my list. 


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  Reply # 1783665 17-May-2017 13:20
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jonathan18:

 

surfisup1000:

 

I'm looking at buying a new mazda CX9, but, waiting for carplay to be shipped. 

 

 

I recall Mazda indicating a retrofitting of Carplay and Android Auto for recent models including the CX9 - have they not yet committed to doing so?

 

If you had that assurance then you could look at buying the car at that point and coping without it initially.

 

Certainly a good-value vehicle (and fairly economical, in theory at least), and one I'd look at if I was looking for an SUV (oh, and if my wife was ok with it - she loathes SUVs with a passion, so I doubt we'll ever be in the market for one!).

 

 

The US distributor has committed to retro-fitting it to all models featuring the MZD entertainment system, albeit with some models requiring additional hardware to be installed. So far I'm not aware of any commitment from Mazda NZ to offer it here, but I would imagine it is highly likely that they will. I would like to get it done when my next service is due in September.

 

 

 

 

IMHO I would not bet on this. Apple Car Play and Android Auto require specific HW support. Not having the requisite HW support means replacing the entire head unit which is an expensive exercise.

 

Kia Sportage is in the same boat. All NZ Sportage come with HW support for Carplay and Android Auto and it is a simple SW upgrade. While 2016 European models do not have HW support and Kia is not willing to replace head units in Europe.

 

A side note. Mazda's MZD Connect Navigation System is among the best in business. Personally I don't miss not having Carplay and Android Auto.

 

 


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When test driving, try and take a baby seat along. See how easy it is to get in and out. On some vehicles the rear doors don't open right out so it can make it difficult to get baby seats in and out.

 

The rear door height can also be an issue. Some are too low, requiring you to either bend over a lot as you place the seat in or you just bang you head a lot as you do up buckles etc.

 

 

 

Something else to think about. When your hands are full how easy is it to open the passenger doors and or tail door.




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  Reply # 1783681 17-May-2017 13:43
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When test driving, try and take a baby seat along. See how easy it is to get in and out. On some vehicles the rear doors don't open right out so it can make it difficult to get baby seats in and out.

 

The rear door height can also be an issue. Some are too low, requiring you to either bend over a lot as you place the seat in or you just bang you head a lot as you do up buckles etc.

 

 

 

Something else to think about. When your hands are full how easy is it to open the passenger doors and or tail door.

 

 

This is great advice, thank you kindly smile I'll likely do measurements as I foresee lugging a car seat everywhere I go would be quite painful. 


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