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  # 1788152 25-May-2017 14:43
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shk292:

 

surfisup1000:

 

jonathan18:

 

What about when in the right-hand lane, and one is travelling faster than the left-hand lane, but not that much faster so as to stay at an acceptable speed?

 

 

 

 

This driving would be fine by me -- as long as you aren't going the same speed . 

 

 

This is what I was trying to explain much further up the thread - to me, this is perfectly reasonable driving, and it would be stupid to expect you to be constantly fighting into the left lane, so that some entitled "special" person can drive at 20-30kph above the limit.  This is often the case on my commute into Auckland - left lane doing 85-90, right lane doing 90-100, both lanes full of cars.  And the occasional jerk who thinks everyone in the right lane should slow down and squeeze into the left lane so he can drive at 120.  Sorry, not happening

 

 

Hmmm, the rule is drive as far left as practical. If you have to "fight" to get into the left lane, it clearly isn't practical, if someone was able to pass you on the left, then it clearly was practical to be driving in the left lane. We've all seen self entitled emergency response vehicles wanting to do 20-30 KPH over the limit, stuck behind a pious, higher-than-thou driver who plainly doesn't habitually keep left.

 

Developing the habit of driving in the RH lane in not only inconsiderate, but can be dangerous - for instance, when you're fatigued/distracted, or otherwise have not got your mind on the job, you revert to the way you habitually drive (you know, that auto-pilot mode, where you can't remember the last 10 Km of the road) - if you habitually drive in the RH lane, and there is no median barrier, tired/distracted people end up on the wrong side of the road - this happens primarily with tourists of course, but also happens with urban drivers who stray onto country roads - ah-la SH2 south of Auckland - it's nick-named the death highway and it isn't a co-incidence that it starts where the Auckland motorways end.


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  # 1788169 25-May-2017 15:27
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tripper1000:

 

Hmmm, the rule is drive as far left as practical. If you have to "fight" to get into the left lane, it clearly isn't practical, if someone was able to pass you on the left, then it clearly was practical to be driving in the left lane

 

 

That depends on the driving style used to pass on the left.  If, as often happens, it consists of swerving into the safe folloing distance in front of a vehicle in the left lane, accelerating past a vehicle to the right, then swerving into the safe following distance being maintained by that vehicle - then that doesn't indicate that the person on the right should be moving left.  It just indicates that some tailgaters have no concept of safe following distances or ambient traffic speed.

 

Most of us who drive on Auckland motorways would like to drive faster most of the time, but we accept that there is congestion, often in all lanes, and we select a lane that we perceive to be moving best and go with the flow.  It's the ignorant few who tailgate aggressively in order to intimidate other drivers to move over, that cause dangerous situations.


 
 
 
 


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  # 1788175 25-May-2017 15:50
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shk292:

 

surfisup1000:

 

jonathan18:

 

What about when in the right-hand lane, and one is travelling faster than the left-hand lane, but not that much faster so as to stay at an acceptable speed?

 

 

 

 

This driving would be fine by me -- as long as you aren't going the same speed . 

 

 

This is what I was trying to explain much further up the thread - to me, this is perfectly reasonable driving, and it would be stupid to expect you to be constantly fighting into the left lane, so that some entitled "special" person can drive at 20-30kph above the limit.  This is often the case on my commute into Auckland - left lane doing 85-90, right lane doing 90-100, both lanes full of cars.  And the occasional jerk who thinks everyone in the right lane should slow down and squeeze into the left lane so he can drive at 120.  Sorry, not happening

 

 

Are you a policeman now?


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  # 1788190 25-May-2017 16:00
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One thing other drivers need to appreciate is that when someone is driving slightly larger vehicles if you tailgate them they have no way to know you are there until they maybe enter a bend. Sometimes you see written on the back of trucks "if you can't see my mirrors I can't see you". Many of these vehicles are legally only allowed to do a maximum of 90 k/hr. As a driver of such a vehicle I try to be courteous, but it is very hard to be courteous to someone you don't know exists. Also when their are multiple lanes changing from the right hand lane to the left is not always that easy or safe eg when you are travelling at 90k/hr and a stream of cars just ignore the fact you have your indicator on and keep passing you on the left. I look in my mirrors and all seems clear and I am about to move left and then one ducks out from right behind me. It will be me who gets fined or jailed if I just indicate and blindly change lanes and plow into them. So drivers in the right hand lane doing 90 are not always to blame if stuck there. All the tooting and single finger saluting won't change matters. 


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  # 1788192 25-May-2017 16:05
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reg52nz:

 

So drivers in the right hand lane doing 90 are not always to blame if stuck there. All the tooting and single finger saluting won't change matters. 

 

 

I hope you have a good dashcam fella!


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  # 1788193 25-May-2017 16:06
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PeterQ:

 

Are you a policeman now?

 

 

How is that relevant?  I wan't proposing to arrest anyone.  I'm OK with people speeding when it's safe to do so but I'm not going to slow down and squeeze into an already congested lane in order to enable them to have a private speeding lane.


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  # 1788195 25-May-2017 16:11
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shk292:

 

PeterQ:

 

Are you a policeman now?

 

 

How is that relevant?  I wan't proposing to arrest anyone.  I'm OK with people speeding when it's safe to do so but I'm not going to slow down and squeeze into an already congested lane in order to enable them to have a private speeding lane.

 

 

Point taken


 
 
 
 


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  # 1788210 25-May-2017 16:29
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adimw:

 

 

 

I hope you have a good dashcam fella!

 

 

 

 

I don't understand your comment?


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  # 1791184 29-May-2017 15:57
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surfisup1000:

 

I've tailgated, but only when the other driver is being an absolute jerk. 

 

Such as blocking the fast lane of a dual carriageway by driving the same speed as the adjacent car in the slow lane. Tailgating doesn't really work with these drivers though, they simply are not paying attention . 

 

 

I strike this a lot, people who sit in the right lane at the same speed as those in the left

 

As a result, I get boxed in ... and when that gap does eventually open up, speed limit be damned as I am getting out of there before some other fool plays the same trick.

 

 


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  # 1791192 29-May-2017 16:11
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tripper1000 

 

...  if you find your self always being tail-gated, you're the problem, not the 90% of other drivers, and you're making travelling a misery for the normal drivers.

 

 

 

 

I don't follow your logic there, so you are saying that if you are always being tailgated even though you are travelling at the speed limit then you are the problem?

 

 Huh?


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  # 1791199 29-May-2017 16:25
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tripper1000 

 

...  if you find your self always being tail-gated, you're the problem, not the 90% of other drivers, and you're making travelling a misery for the normal drivers.

 

 

 

 

I don't follow your logic there, so you are saying that if you are always being tailgated even though you are travelling at the speed limit then you are the problem?

 

 Huh?

 

 

The logic is that your speed relative to the limit shouldn't be a factor in determining which lane you occupy.  You should only be in the right hand lane if the left lane is congested (or both lanes are), or you are overtaking a vehicle in the left lane.  I think this can reasonably be extended to include when both lanes are congested, you can pick the fastest lane.  But, driving at what you perceive to be the speed limit when there is space to move left is not allowed by the road code.  Your speedo may be innacurate, and anyway, what right has anyone (except police) to impose the speed limit on other drivers?


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  # 1798513 12-Jun-2017 14:30
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To quote a work colleague on this very issue, "Tail gating saves fuel".

 

LOL I guess there is some science behind that one and it may even be partially true. Especially when tailgating a big truck.


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  # 1798515 12-Jun-2017 14:32
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Wiggum:

 

To quote a work colleague on this very issue, "Tail gating saves fuel".

 

LOL I guess there is some science behind that one and it may even be partially true. Especially when tailgating a big truck.

 

 

 

 

Most of the time the amount of feathering of the throttle you have to do uses more gas than cruising at your own pace!
How ever the new adaptive cruise controls work a treat for this, Only if it would let you get close enough!


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