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  # 1804135 20-Jun-2017 15:45
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MikeAqua:

 

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Just a wee caution that jammers are illegal - as is anything that interferes with a vehicle speed measurement device.  So if you get caught with it, expect a fine.

 

 

Are you sure about that wording?

 

My understanding is that is illegal to transmit radio waves in that band, which you would have to do if you were jamming a radar.

 

By my understanding is that the visible spectrum is unlicensed... I believe I can do pretty much what I like in the way of lights (within the restrictions of white to the front, red to the rear, etc traffic laws) and lasers (without causing harm).

 

 

 

Nothing to do with spectrum management  From Land Transport Act 1998. 

 

16B Interference with operation of speed measuring devices
 Every person commits an offence who—
(a)uses in a motor vehicle any equipment that interferes with the operation of a speed measuring device:
(b) possesses in a motor vehicle any equipment that is designed to interfere with the operation of a speed measuring device.

 

Also listed in road code as a demerit point earner.

 

 

I stand corrected. Thanks Mike.

 

 


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  # 1804140 20-Jun-2017 15:59
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frankv:

 

MikeAqua:

 

frankv:

 

MikeAqua:

 

Just a wee caution that jammers are illegal - as is anything that interferes with a vehicle speed measurement device.  So if you get caught with it, expect a fine.

 

 

Are you sure about that wording?

 

My understanding is that is illegal to transmit radio waves in that band, which you would have to do if you were jamming a radar.

 

By my understanding is that the visible spectrum is unlicensed... I believe I can do pretty much what I like in the way of lights (within the restrictions of white to the front, red to the rear, etc traffic laws) and lasers (without causing harm).

 

 

 

Nothing to do with spectrum management  From Land Transport Act 1998. 

 

16B Interference with operation of speed measuring devices
 Every person commits an offence who—
(a)uses in a motor vehicle any equipment that interferes with the operation of a speed measuring device:
(b) possesses in a motor vehicle any equipment that is designed to interfere with the operation of a speed measuring device.

 

Also listed in road code as a demerit point earner.

 

 

I stand corrected. Thanks Mike.

 

 

 

 

 

 

"uses in" "possesses in" So if i put one of those ON my car (e.g the roof or bonnet or maybe a bullbar) it is not illegal as it doesnt reside with in the vehicle itself. Rather than on. How would that stand up in a NZ court if caught? I would see that as a loop hole in the states. 

 

 

 

Rikkitic:

 

Lasers don't seem to be used much anyway, at least where I live. I rarely get hits and I never see a cop on the road. I think most are just kids playing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Usually found on the motorway around the CBD with bike cops and near the bridge. You can tell from a mile away they are using lasers, Cop car parked side on..


 
 
 
 


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  # 1807360 27-Jun-2017 08:47
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Did anyone order one of these in the end? 


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  # 1807431 27-Jun-2017 10:07
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I was tempted by the whole $10 thing, if nothing but to compare it to my Uniden, but I just can't stand to even waste $10 for a laugh.

 

There are 2 new detectors out by Uniden in the US, R1 & R3, about $3-400US , the cheaper one does without GPS, but other than that, they are identical (range, filtering). Reports are that they are the new benchmark in regards to sensitivity, beating out the V1 and even the escort redline.

 

Not sure if they will come to NZ or not.

 

K band in NZ is pretty much a waste, if you can, turn it off. Speed camera vans use Redflex cameras with a low power radar on K Band, but even the best detectors will only give 1-200m warning, maybe if you are lucky, long after your eyes should have spotted the Hyundai van on the side of the road without ladders on it :)

 

Only band in use (AFAIK) on patrol cars is 34.7ka band. Detection range depends a lot on conditions (weather, traffic, landscape etc), anything less than about 400m will be a waste, you will most likely get nabbed as the detector goes off (if you are in line of sight, upwards of 1km is still possible to get you).

 

GPS is a great feature for detectors, if you do leave K Band on (I do) then you can program it to simply not squawk in certain locations (there are a few 24ghz k band alerts in and around Sydenham in Christchurch for example that I lock out).

 

If you are interested in comparing, here is a vid showing the differences between cheap and expensive detectors. The guy knows his stuff and is very informative.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  # 1807444 27-Jun-2017 10:36
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maybe if you are lucky, long after your eyes should have spotted the Hyundai van on the side of the road without ladders on it :)

 

 

 

 

Nowadays that's a white VW Transporter with a large aerial straight up in the middle of the roof. Haven't seen a Hyundai for quite a while.

 

 


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  # 1807452 27-Jun-2017 10:54
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frankv:

 

sen8or:

 

maybe if you are lucky, long after your eyes should have spotted the Hyundai van on the side of the road without ladders on it :)

 

 

 

 

Nowadays that's a white VW Transporter with a large aerial straight up in the middle of the roof. Haven't seen a Hyundai for quite a while.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Never thought the NZP would waste money on a VW..

Only seen hyundais on Auckland/Northland roads.


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  # 1807483 27-Jun-2017 11:00
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TimA:

 

frankv:

 

sen8or:

 

maybe if you are lucky, long after your eyes should have spotted the Hyundai van on the side of the road without ladders on it :)

 

 

Nowadays that's a white VW Transporter with a large aerial straight up in the middle of the roof. Haven't seen a Hyundai for quite a while.

 

 

Never thought the NZP would waste money on a VW..

Only seen hyundais on Auckland/Northland roads.

 

 

Maybe VWs have better heaters? Only seen them on Central Districts roads lately, where there used to be a bright blue Hyundai.

 

 


 
 
 
 


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  # 1807515 27-Jun-2017 11:09
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Someone once suggested to me that it might be amusing to sneak up on one of those vans, remove the number plate, put it on your own car, and speed past the van a few times. 

 

 





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  # 1807518 27-Jun-2017 11:21
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Rikkitic:

 

Someone once suggested to me that it might be amusing to sneak up on one of those vans, remove the number plate, put it on your own car, and speed past the van a few times. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Don't tempt me. 


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  # 1807522 27-Jun-2017 11:35
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TimA:

 

 

 

Never thought the NZP would waste money on a VW..

Only seen hyundais on Auckland/Northland roads.

 

 

 

 

Apart from the same Hyundai van in the same spot 100 m down from the top of Kamo Hill, I almost never see cameras in Northland. Tons of patrol cars though.

 

 


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  # 1807530 27-Jun-2017 11:51
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Gurezaemon:

 

TimA:

 

 

 

Never thought the NZP would waste money on a VW..

Only seen hyundais on Auckland/Northland roads.

 

 

 

 

Apart from the same Hyundai van in the same spot 100 m down from the top of Kamo Hill, I almost never see cameras in Northland. Tons of patrol cars though.

 

 

 



Came back down yesterday and i noticed on the Waipu straights they now have raised pads for the cop cars to sit on to scone people.

I didnt even bother speeding the whole way back, just sat on 95 and i had a train of people following me, I sat on 95 in the LEFT LANE of the overtaking lanes and most didn't even overtake, had the same 5 cars following me the whole way. Seems like people like to follow someone whos steady? I got tired to watching that bloody speedo every 20 seconds to make sure i wasnt creeping over. 2.8 straight six torque for yah. 


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  # 1807545 27-Jun-2017 11:58
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TimA:

 

Gurezaemon:

 

Apart from the same Hyundai van in the same spot 100 m down from the top of Kamo Hill, I almost never see cameras in Northland. Tons of patrol cars though.

 



Came back down yesterday and i noticed on the Waipu straights they now have raised pads for the cop cars to sit on to scone people.

I didnt even bother speeding the whole way back, just sat on 95 and i had a train of people following me, I sat on 95 in the LEFT LANE of the overtaking lanes and most didn't even overtake, had the same 5 cars following me the whole way. Seems like people like to follow someone whos steady? I got tired to watching that bloody speedo every 20 seconds to make sure i wasnt creeping over. 2.8 straight six torque for yah. 

 

 

Since there are now a tolerable amount of passing lanes in the North, there is much less incentive to pass people as soon as possible. Previously, people roared past anyone who was a little slow, out of fear they'd be stuck for 20 minutes. Now it hardly seems worth the hassle. Myself, I can't see the point of getting stressed about passing people most of the time.
Also with the increased traffic, I think a lot of people just can't be bothered passing, as you'll just end up behind another bloody logging truck 50 m further on.


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  # 1809586 30-Jun-2017 13:11
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sen8or:

 

GPS is a great feature for detectors, if you do leave K Band on (I do) then you can program it to simply not squawk in certain locations (there are a few 24ghz k band alerts in and around Sydenham in Christchurch for example that I lock out).

 

 

gps by itself is pretty useless as it only work on location of the errant source not the frequency.

 

 

if there is a legitimate radar source at the same spot you could be in for a surprise.

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  # 1809604 30-Jun-2017 13:31
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Not necessarily, my Uniden locks out frequency at location, rather than just location itself. Possibly some of the cheaper radars with GPS (Whistler and/or Cobra) may operate like this, don't know.

 

In my current town (Lincoln) there is a 24.1 frequency emitted by the local library, I have this locked out, however, the cop shop is just next door, they often leave their radars on when parked outside. Ka from the car still activates despite the location lockout of the library (the two do battle as I drive down the road, mute the ka band, then the k band gets picked up, but comes out as locked out, it then re-activates the Ka band, which I mute, rinse and repeat).


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