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# 2310477 4-Sep-2019 10:26
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I just went to use the Vector chargers at the Auckland Airport shopping centre, unfortunately the left hand charger doesn't appear to be going. Had some issues with Plugshare so couldn't check in and advise.

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  # 2310498 4-Sep-2019 10:44
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Guilliman: I just went to use the Vector chargers at the Auckland Airport shopping centre, unfortunately the left hand charger doesn't appear to be going. Had some issues with Plugshare so couldn't check in and advise.

 

Did you let Vector know directly?

 

https://www.vector.co.nz/personal/ev-charging/ev-charging-station-faqs

 

Who do I call if I notice a problem or damage with/to the EV chargers?
If a charge outlet is damaged do not use the damaged charge outlet. We’d appreciate it if you could let us know so we can get a crew out to repair it. Please call us on 0508 VECTOR (0508 832 867).


 
 
 
 


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  # 2311597 6-Sep-2019 09:10
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Ah didn't think about that, done.



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  # 2311998 6-Sep-2019 22:06
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Napier now has a 2nd DC fast charger. A new Charge Net charger is operational as of today (2019 09 06).

This charger should help relieve congestion around the Unison charger in Dickens St and provide some backup.

It's the usual Charge Net setup:

1 x 50kw DC CHAdeMO tethered cable
1 x 50kw DC CCS 2 tethered cable

Charge Net account required to activate. (www.chargenet.co.nz) and use costs 25c / kWh + 25c / minute.





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  # 2313455 9-Sep-2019 11:01
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Linuxluver:
KiwiME:

Linuxluver:
The reality is most people will charge at home most of the time. I certainly do. . That's 90% of the cost of energy accounted for. Road trips will involve paid charging. The cheapest way to go is charger to 70% (300km in a Kona) and then drive 225km (ish) and charge to 70% again. This is the fastest and cheapest way to roll. Why pay more to charge shower?
It's an adjustment thing. I do it all the time. You get used to it. It's just different. Then comibine the total cost of home charging abd roads trips and the average price per km is very low compared to ICE.


I realise that what you've described is the pragmatic approach.  After buying the Kona I found out that I can't park close enough to home to charge off my own electricity supply (best night rate in HB $0.19) and so have only used public chargers since the car was new.  My average rate for July (easy to calculate because all charging is billed from ChargeNet) was $0.46.  At that number I'm still ahead of an ICE car, but if RUCs are added at the current rate then I'll be even with a petrol car that does 6.5 l/100km.  That of course doesn't contribute to the extra $40k upfront nor the extra $550/y insurance that is only fractionally helped by $200/y lower servicing cost.


The wide span of private v.s. public charging costs in combination with RUCs inevitably means that the EV market will remain, as it started, with those who can charge at home inexpensively and drive mostly within their home range.  Government costing estimates that use $0.15/unit (ECCA) have misappropriated the private domestic rates of householders, without mentioning the associated caveats such as only charging at night, etc.  In my opinion, government costing for creating policy should be done only with open-market charging costs.  The cost benefits of private electricity rates are the property of the householders who negotiated those rates in return for abiding with the T&Cs.


 



Can you explain your power situation at home more? I installed convenient charging points at both houses I have been regularly charging at. How far away are you from your power? I've used 30 metre outdoor extension cords to charge from a 240v / 10amp power point. On one occasion I used two. Ideally, you would get a 32amp /7kw Type 2 socket installed and use an appropriate cable. Is 10 metres long enough?

The issue your having isn't really anything to do with the car. It's about your own preparations to meet your own requirements.
Here's what I use. This cost me about $1000.. Worth every penny. My LEAF can charge at 6.6kw.

 

 

Can I just ask you a question about your Leaf here? I recently ordered one of those charge port covers but unfortunately it doesn't seem to close over the OEM Audio EVSE I got with mine. Nor, it seems, the cable I later ordered from them for plugging into public AC charge sockets. Did you get this cable separately or was it included with your fixed charge point there? Unfortunately I don't think I'll be able to have a fixed point installed where we're living right now plus I don't want to deal with the further hassle of uninstalling it if/when we move elsewhere. At this point the cover is of no use to me so I'm considering returning it.



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  # 2313478 9-Sep-2019 11:20
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Guilliman:
Can I just ask you a question about your Leaf here? I recently ordered one of those charge port covers but unfortunately it doesn't seem to close over the OEM Audio EVSE I got with mine. Nor, it seems, the cable I later ordered from them for plugging into public AC charge sockets. Did you get this cable separately or was it included with your fixed charge point there? Unfortunately I don't think I'll be able to have a fixed point installed where we're living right now plus I don't want to deal with the further hassle of uninstalling it if/when we move elsewhere. At this point the cover is of no use to me so I'm considering returning it.


The cable I'm using came with the car as it's a UK LEAF. How much was your cover? I might be interested.




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  # 2313483 9-Sep-2019 11:24
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Linuxluver:
Guilliman:
Can I just ask you a question about your Leaf here? I recently ordered one of those charge port covers but unfortunately it doesn't seem to close over the OEM Audio EVSE I got with mine. Nor, it seems, the cable I later ordered from them for plugging into public AC charge sockets. Did you get this cable separately or was it included with your fixed charge point there? Unfortunately I don't think I'll be able to have a fixed point installed where we're living right now plus I don't want to deal with the further hassle of uninstalling it if/when we move elsewhere. At this point the cover is of no use to me so I'm considering returning it.


The cable I'm using came with the car as it's a UK LEAF. How much was your cover? I might be interested.

 

 

I see.

 

It cost me $122.58 all up, it's complete including a carry bag.

 
 
 
 


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  # 2313523 9-Sep-2019 12:26
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What's a charge port cover ? Why does it need a bag?

The cable linuxlover (and I have) and I have are type 2 (wall socket end) to type 1 (car end) which enables you to plug into upto 32A AC power supplies like linuxlover looks like he was on side of his house and public AC supplies like Warehouse.

We probably both also have a cable with adapters to plug into domestic wall sockets (and probably caravan/commando power sockets).

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  # 2313536 9-Sep-2019 13:00
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afe66: What's a charge port cover ? Why does it need a bag?

The cable linuxlover (and I have) and I have are type 2 (wall socket end) to type 1 (car end) which enables you to plug into upto 32A AC power supplies like linuxlover looks like he was on side of his house and public AC supplies like Warehouse.

We probably both also have a cable with adapters to plug into domestic wall sockets (and probably caravan/commando power sockets).

 

 

The cover is one of these [it comes with a bag];

 

 

Click to see full size

 

 

https://bluecars.nz/shop/charging-port-cover/

 

 

The cable I have is one of these;

 

 

Click to see full size

 

 

Although it seems OEM Audio don't carry this one now, instead I see this one listed;

 

 

https://oemaudio.co.nz/product/ev-power-type-2-to-type-1-lead-5-metres-ip-66/

 

 


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  # 2313555 9-Sep-2019 13:44
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Ok. Was looking at wrong end of cable.

Cant say I see a need to cover the car end of the cable though. Seems to drain fine for me.

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  # 2313557 9-Sep-2019 13:53
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Perhaps I am too paranoid about the car end. It's been bucketing down semi-regularly around here though. I park my car in front of the garage [currently acting as storage rather than being actually able to park a car inside] and run the charge cable I have underneath to door which has just enough of a gap. There's some minor protection from a balcony if I park close enough.

 

 

Thats another thing about the cover, it doesn't block anything to the rear of the port door.



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  # 2313869 9-Sep-2019 22:52
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afe66: Ok. Was looking at wrong end of cable.

Cant say I see a need to cover the car end of the cable though. Seems to drain fine for me.


It's to stop people unplugging the cable from the car.




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  # 2313891 10-Sep-2019 07:02
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Doesn't the lock setting do the same thing? I set to lock when charging using my own cable, and 'auto' when using a public cable.

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  # 2313968 10-Sep-2019 08:55
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paulchinnz: Doesn't the lock setting do the same thing? I set to lock when charging using my own cable, and 'auto' when using a public cable.

 

It may have improved on the second Leaf, but on the original model the 'lock' is easily circumvented by any long thin tool (screwdriver) or, if your my wife, by managing to get thin fingers to lift up the mechanism! On this model it's really only useful to discourage opportunistic theft.




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  # 2313982 10-Sep-2019 09:05
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paulchinnz: Doesn't the lock setting do the same thing? I set to lock when charging using my own cable, and 'auto' when using a public cable.


Yes. The car lock works if the cable is compatible. But it is relatively easily forced. Admittedly, cable theft isn't a big issue in NZ so far. I just used it because it looked cool. But then I lost one of the bolts and can't fix one side.:-)




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