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  Reply # 1834511 31-Jul-2017 19:45
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@Fred99:

 

@Batman:

 

@Fred99:

 

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Fred99:

 

I don't get the point of cars like that Bugatti.

 

For not much more you could get a small jet with seating for 6 or 8, a toilet on board, travel 2000km on a tank of gas, cruise at double the speed without fear of getting a ticket, and not have people anxiously waiting for you to drive it into a tree or lake so they can laugh at you.

 

 

Seen the running costs for such a thing and training required ? :)

 

But yeah, unless you have access to a race track every weekend or a runway, not much you can do with the car ;)

 

 

 

 

Yes - not exactly a cheap hobby (private jet).  

 

OTOH a set of tyres for a Veyron cost ~ $50,000 and only last about 4,000km, so you'd use up about $10,000 worth of tyre tread on a one way trip from Chch to Auckland. 

 

 

You don't need those tyres if you only plan to drive at 200ks to outrun the cops. Slam those on when you decide to do a top speed run, then swap them out for the $400 ones for the 220kph runs.

 

 

Can't see a towbar option on the Bugatti specs - for the trailer to carry the spare set of tyres.

 

I wonder what the insurance situation would be if you ran the Bugatti on Chinese Ling-Longs - when you just wanted to do skids to impress the boys.

 

 

One has a man in a helicopter to carry the spare wheels and tyres around.

 

 


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  Reply # 1834518 31-Jul-2017 20:01
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@Fred99:

 

@MikeB4:

 

 These are engineering test objects. Developments tend to debut in this type of vehicle then filter down to cars you can actually use, much like F1 and other motor racing.

 

 

Nope. They're ~90% pure marketing.

 

 

 

 

I am struggling to think of tech developments that have made it from hyper-cars or F1 racing to road cars.

 

Most stuff seems to be first seen on S-Class Mercs.


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1834539 31-Jul-2017 21:04
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@Fred99:

 

Can't see a towbar option on the Bugatti specs - for the trailer to carry the spare set of tyres.

 

I wonder what the insurance situation would be if you ran the Bugatti on Chinese Ling-Longs - when you just wanted to do skids to impress the boys.

 

 

No you put on Michelin Pilot Sport 4. That has a speed rating to "beyond 270kph". About $400 a pop.

 

Beyond 400kph is when it gets expensive. There is no need to do more than 100kph unless you're trying to outrun a cop. In which case 220 should be enough.

 

YOu don't need a trailer to carry tyres to do a top speed run. There is *no place in NZ to achieve that speed other than a race track in which case you'd store your tyres there. Just a few brain cells needed to plan that.

 

*It takes a considerable distance to accelerate to > 400kph, the only place I can think of is the Auckland motorway from top to bottom, if you manage to lock it out for 10 mins to oneself. I don't know even know if it can be achieved on any racetrack around here - probably not is my guess


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  Reply # 1834876 1-Aug-2017 12:41
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No, the world probably doesn't need a car with 1500 PS, and can do god knows what top speed (it'll be north of the 265mph the Veyron Super Sport managed, even though it is limited to 261mph currently)

 

But the fact it exists, and from the reviews is no harder to drive than a Golf, is awesome.

 

And it's some of the little things, the dust caps that weigh a few grams weigh kilo's at top speed, the fact at 236mph, tyre pressure goes down at speed due to the cold air rushing over them. Yep.

 

As an aside to the Top Gear episode, there is also this clip (below) of Chris Harris with the Chiron

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO6jaDmJLog

 

YouTuber vlogger Shmee150 also did a bit on the Chiron, and that's below too. Warning, it's long, around 42 minutes

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68w1OEmLWio

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1834894 1-Aug-2017 13:08
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WyleECoyoteNZ:

 

No, the world probably doesn't need a car with 1500 PS, and can do god knows what top speed (it'll be north of the 265mph the Veyron Super Sport managed, even though it is limited to 261mph currently)

 

But the fact it exists, and from the reviews is no harder to drive than a Golf, is awesome.

 

And it's some of the little things, the dust caps that weigh a few grams weigh kilo's at top speed, the fact at 236mph, tyre pressure goes down at speed due to the cold air rushing over them. Yep.

 

As an aside to the Top Gear episode, there is also this clip (below) of Chris Harris with the Chiron

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO6jaDmJLog

 

YouTuber vlogger Shmee150 also did a bit on the Chiron, and that's below too. Warning, it's long, around 42 minutes

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68w1OEmLWio

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think once they sort out a few physics issue they will come up with a Super Sport equivalent version that will have a higher speed limit. Has someone blogged the distance it needs to travel just to get to 240mph? Can't find it anywhere.


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  Reply # 1835304 1-Aug-2017 22:21
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Batman:

 

Has someone blogged the distance it needs to travel just to get to 240mph? Can't find it anywhere.

 

 

I did some quick googling to find that some speed records for Bugatti and other similar monstrosities of around 250mph were set on Kennedy Space Centre runway - which is about 4.5km long, but you'd probably need 1/2 km for braking, plus a safety margin.

 

That googling also told me that some silly protocol was needed to set a Veyron into "speed" mode, which lowered the suspension to give so little clearance that you'd be in very deep crap indeed if you tried it on NZ roads.


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  Reply # 1866529 14-Sep-2017 21:19
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Fred99:

 

Batman:

 

Has someone blogged the distance it needs to travel just to get to 240mph? Can't find it anywhere.

 

 

I did some quick googling to find that some speed records for Bugatti and other similar monstrosities of around 250mph were set on Kennedy Space Centre runway - which is about 4.5km long, but you'd probably need 1/2 km for braking, plus a safety margin.

 

That googling also told me that some silly protocol was needed to set a Veyron into "speed" mode, which lowered the suspension to give so little clearance that you'd be in very deep crap indeed if you tried it on NZ roads.

 

 

Some figures finally appeared:

 

https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/news/96824878/bugatti-chiron-sets-remarkable-go-go-to-whoa-record

 

0-400-0 km/h in 42 seconds - over about 3.6km.


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