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  Reply # 1869306 20-Sep-2017 12:47
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Using 2 feet while driving an automatic? I'm concerned that this is even a question.


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  Reply # 1869316 20-Sep-2017 12:59
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I was teaching a friend to drive an automatic  a few years back in my car, they had only ever driven manuals, they decided for reasons known only to them to use their left foot on the brake, unfortunately they tried to depress it the same way they would depress the clutch, I still have night terrors of the outcome and my chest took many weeks to repair.





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  Reply # 1869334 20-Sep-2017 13:12
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MikeB4:

 

I was teaching a friend to drive an automatic  a few years back in my car, they had only ever driven manuals, they decided for reasons known only to them to use their left foot on the brake, unfortunately they tried to depress it the same way they would depress the clutch, I still have night terrors of the outcome and my chest took many weeks to repair.

 

 

As I already stated, that is not the way to do it. If I want to stop, I move my right foot to the brake, regardless of what the left foot is doing. I don't press on the accelerator. Maybe some people just aren't very skilled drivers.

 

 





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  Reply # 1869341 20-Sep-2017 13:18
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Rikkitic:

 

MikeB4:

 

I was teaching a friend to drive an automatic  a few years back in my car, they had only ever driven manuals, they decided for reasons known only to them to use their left foot on the brake, unfortunately they tried to depress it the same way they would depress the clutch, I still have night terrors of the outcome and my chest took many weeks to repair.

 

 

As I already stated, that is not the way to do it. If I want to stop, I move my right foot to the brake, regardless of what the left foot is doing. I don't press on the accelerator. Maybe some people just aren't very skilled drivers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nah this person is actually a good driver, it was muscle memory subconsciously thinking it was the clutch being depressed. 





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  Reply # 1869344 20-Sep-2017 13:23
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I used to drive junk cars in the States; there was no warranty of fitness in many states.

Often the parking brakes didn't work, and the engine was barely running

I learned to twist the one foot across both the accelerator and brake, pushing down hard with my heel on the brake, and feathering the throttle with my toes.

I'd also be pumping the clutch with the other foot to keep the car from stalling.

Ah the good old days...

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Reply # 1869354 20-Sep-2017 13:40
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I use 2 feet on 'special' occasions, when both need some pressing at the same time, or the right ankle is a bit sore/stiff. Otherwise the default is 1. So i can do either. 

 

 

Ah, those 'special' occasions where you need to both go faster and stop at the same time??


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  Reply # 1869377 20-Sep-2017 13:57
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When you need to spin the back wheels without moving.


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  Reply # 1869379 20-Sep-2017 14:00
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I use both feet.  Always have done since first started driving automatics.  That's what the big break peddle on US and some AU made cars was for.  The only car I could do this was  a VL Commodore as when the made the auto version they just removed the clutch peddle and kept the manual break peddle.   Typical Holden.  Do it on the cheap.   Two feet is way better for hill starts..





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  Reply # 1869381 20-Sep-2017 14:03
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caminham:

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I use 2 feet on 'special' occasions, when both need some pressing at the same time, or the right ankle is a bit sore/stiff. Otherwise the default is 1. So i can do either. 



Ah, those 'special' occasions where you need to both go faster and stop at the same time??



Exactly. Most people don't know that in order for a car to turn the front tyres need to be loaded. Esp front outside tyre. With a manual car, all you need to do is lift off and the engine braking will automatically do the weight transfer to load the front tyres. In my stupid CVT and automatic when you lift off, the engine goes to idle and the transmission disconnects. Can't turn, so you have to brake. Trouble is, the engine and transmission doesn't know how much power to deliver when I exit the corner, it has trouble. So the easiest way is to keep its memory by feathering the right foot. No I'm not a race car driver but that's the idea. I've sold those cars since. Useless.

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  Reply # 1869383 20-Sep-2017 14:04
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And no-one finds it incredible that people with such poor motor skills that they cannot distinguish between the accelerator and the brake are allowed to control two-ton death machines on public roads? I would think that the ability to brake with either foot would be a minimum competency requirement.

 

 





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  Reply # 1869398 20-Sep-2017 14:16
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It's nothing to do with motor skills. It's to do with muscle memory. 

 

 


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  Reply # 1869446 20-Sep-2017 14:53
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Muscle memory is the result of muscle training. Train the muscle differently and they will remember differently.

 

 





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  Reply # 1869458 20-Sep-2017 14:59
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Rikkitic:

 

And no-one finds it incredible that people with such poor motor skills that they cannot distinguish between the accelerator and the brake are allowed to control two-ton death machines on public roads? I would think that the ability to brake with either foot would be a minimum competency requirement.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I disagree I find more disturbing that an experienced driver of road vehicles would see the need to brake with their left foot and accelerate with their right in an automatic or manual vehicle. There are occasions in larger vehicles or off road where the vehicles revs need to be kept up to say match the rate of descent but in a normal driving situation in a standard light vehicle it is the wrong method and a silly method.





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  Reply # 1869482 20-Sep-2017 15:17
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Rikkitic:

 

Muscle memory is the result of muscle training. Train the muscle differently and they will remember differently.

 

 

Yes but you worried about driver's who were unskilled - apparently because they are not trained to do left foot braking. I see no reason to worry about this lack of training in an IMHO unnecessary skill as long as drivers are trained/skilled to use their right foot and to anticipate potential risks ahead. 

 

Indeed as others have posted, the official dogma expressed in the road code excludes left foot braking, and driving instructors often encourage to hover the right over the brake when coasting.


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  Reply # 1869492 20-Sep-2017 15:25
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Rikkitic:

 

Muscle memory is the result of muscle training. Train the muscle differently and they will remember differently.

 

 

 

Sounds good in theory, but put that person into a manual car and they will struggle.

 

In addition to all of the mechanical and psychological problems (Two Footed Panic), it's also a good habit to get into for if/when you start driving a manual transmission vehicle because you'll need the free second foot to operate the clutch properly and efficiently.


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