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  Reply # 1908562 27-Nov-2017 16:58
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Scott3:

 

Regarding the i3 vs other electric cars (leaf, ioniq, e-golf), I think the i3 is targeting a different market. For starters, the i3 is by far the smallest externally, and has the smallest turning circle (9.9m), has the most distinctive styling, and is rear wheel drive.

BMW intended this car to be their "Mega city" car. And I imagine their target market will keep it alongside another larger BMW in their garage. This shows in design decisions they have made, such as the small gas tank. This is not a great car to drive Auckland to Wellington, and BMW didn't intend it to be so. From that point of view, a massive range isn't also important.

 

Yes, it does seem as though BMW designed the i3 as a very smart futuristic "around town" vehicle, rather than as a comfortable vehicle for travelling long distances. Some owners have reported that, at higher speeds, the rather small wheels give a slightly bumpy ride which isn't all that comfortable over long distances, but they're fine for city driving. Incidentally, the replacement tyres for the i3 are rather expensive at around $450 each.

 

The latest news I have seen about the i3 is that all 30,000 i3's sold in America may have to be recalled due to a rather unusual frontal crash test result, as explained here:

 

http://www.bmwblog.com/2017/11/20/recall-stop-sale-issued-bmw-i3-models-sold-america/

 

According to NHTSA testing, there’s an issue with frontal crash protection for drivers of the “5th percentile female” in the driver’s seat, if they don’t wear their seatbelt. Basically, that means that, in the event of a frontal crash, females of about 5-feet tall and 110 pounds have a “marginally higher risk” of sustaining neck injuries than is allowed. Again, if they aren’t wearing their seatbelt. That latter bit is important because it’s illegal to not wear a seatbelt in 49 of the 50 States.

 

This article also says that BMW has issued a recall and stop-sale order on all of its i3 electric vehicles in the U.S. after failing a recent National Highway Traffic Safety Administration crash test.

 

The simple remedy is to wear your seat belt, but it will be interesting to see whether other countries (including New Zealand) will also consider a similar recall. It seems that it might be quite difficult and time-consuming for BMW to come up with an acceptable fix for this problem.

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1909397 29-Nov-2017 10:26
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networkn:

 

 

 

I have yet to see any mass market EV that looked "nice". Considering BMW's strategy going forward will be electric 80% I doubt what you have said is likely true.

 

 

Yes they are pretty ugly

 

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  Reply # 1909454 29-Nov-2017 11:41
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According to to ecotricity youtube channel, in 18 state in USA it isn't mandatory to wear a seatbelt !!

 

So in order to sell cars, unrestrained passengers need to be protected in the event of a crash.

 

I hope this isn't copied without thinking by NZ.

 

It would be ridiculous for a car here to be recalled because it doesn't protect someone from injuring themselves while breaking the law..


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  Reply # 1909464 29-Nov-2017 11:51
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afe66:

 

According to to ecotricity youtube channel, in 18 state in USA it isn't mandatory to wear a seatbelt !!

 

So in order to sell cars, unrestrained passengers need to be protected in the event of a crash.

 

I hope this isn't copied without thinking by NZ.

 

It would be ridiculous for a car here to be recalled because it doesn't protect someone from injuring themselves while breaking the law..

 

 

That's not quite true, only 1 state, New Hampshire has no explicit law requiring seatbelts

 

All other states do have a law,

 

BUT the 18 that are mentioned above do not have "primary" enforcement, i.e a cop cannot stop you solely because of a seat belt violation, - you can be fined for not wearing a seatbelt, but only if you are being stopped for something else..

 

https://www.cdc.gov/motorvehiclesafety/calculator/factsheet/seatbelt.html

 

 




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  Reply # 1915588 9-Dec-2017 09:43
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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/dec/06/bmw-electric-car-ad-banned-over-misleading-clean-car-claims

 

The above article explains that:

 

"The car company BMW has been censured by the UK’s advertising watchdog for claiming an electric car equipped with a small petrol engine was “clean” and “zero emissions”, in a ruling that could have a knock-on effect on other electric car advertising."

 

In the Facebook ad the car was described as “a clean car and helps to give back to the environment”. A complainant suggested that the presence of a petrol engine meant this statement was incorrect.

 

BMW argued that the nature of the petrol engine, in maintaining charge for the electric engine rather than taking over from it when needed, meant its description – which came from a user – was accurate.

 

Of course, BMW does sell an "all electric" version of the i3, so it's only the range extender version that is affected by the decision of the UK Advertising Standards Authority (ASA).

 

The article does come to an interesting conclusion when it says that:

 

... even the cleanest electric vehicle can only have as little impact on the environment as the electricity grid from which it is powered.

 

So, as long as coal or gas-fired power stations are used to generate electricity used to charge-up EVs, then it's also unfair to say that such EVs are clean and have zero emissions. Now when are NZ power stations going to quit using coal or gas?


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