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  Reply # 1972277 10-Mar-2018 11:45
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The scooter technically has right of way, but you would still expect the scooter operator to exercise caution and not assume that every reversing vehicle will be able to see them through the fence. This is similar to pedestrian crossings - the cars are supposed to stop to let someone cross, but that doesn't mean that a pedestrian can just burst out onto the crossing without checking or without waiting for traffic to see them and stop.


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  Reply # 1972283 10-Mar-2018 11:58
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Journeyman:

 

The scooter technically has right of way, but you would still expect the scooter operator to exercise caution and not assume that every reversing vehicle will be able to see them through the fence. This is similar to pedestrian crossings - the cars are supposed to stop to let someone cross, but that doesn't mean that a pedestrian can just burst out onto the crossing without checking or without waiting for traffic to see them and stop.

 

 

But pedestrians do burst out anywhere where there isn't a crossing, without checking and without waiting for traffic to see them and stop! Even cars do that!


 
 
 
 


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  Reply # 1972609 11-Mar-2018 06:45
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Batman:

 

Journeyman:

 

The scooter technically has right of way, but you would still expect the scooter operator to exercise caution and not assume that every reversing vehicle will be able to see them through the fence. This is similar to pedestrian crossings - the cars are supposed to stop to let someone cross, but that doesn't mean that a pedestrian can just burst out onto the crossing without checking or without waiting for traffic to see them and stop.

 

 

But pedestrians do burst out anywhere where there isn't a crossing, without checking and without waiting for traffic to see them and stop! Even cars do that!

 

 

Even where there is one, they still do it. Vehicles are only required to give way where the pedestrian is "already on the crossing" OR "obviously waiting to cross", not "dawdling along the sidewalk before making a sharp turn and almost sprinting onto the crossing" as many seem to do. I'd like to see TPTB doing some education and enforcement in this area to lower the number of Kamikaze pedestrians before natural selection does it for them.


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  Reply # 1972662 11-Mar-2018 11:07
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Batman:

 

Journeyman:

 

The scooter technically has right of way, but you would still expect the scooter operator to exercise caution and not assume that every reversing vehicle will be able to see them through the fence. This is similar to pedestrian crossings - the cars are supposed to stop to let someone cross, but that doesn't mean that a pedestrian can just burst out onto the crossing without checking or without waiting for traffic to see them and stop.

 

 

But pedestrians do burst out anywhere where there isn't a crossing, without checking and without waiting for traffic to see them and stop! Even cars do that!

 

 

 

 

Exactly. If a person bomb bursts out into the path of a car - whether a crossing or a driveway - then as long as the driver has exercised their responsibility of care as much as they can practically do so, then I don't see that the driver is at fault even if the pedestrian has right of way. In other words, right of way is not a force field and people have to use common sense :)

 

Ya know what irks me? When I'm reversing out of a car parking spot and some pedestrian just blithely walks straight across the back of my car with not a care in the world! WTH? 


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  Reply # 1972664 11-Mar-2018 11:23
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Ya know what irks me? When I'm reversing out of a car parking spot and some pedestrian just blithely walks straight across the back of my car with not a care in the world! WTH? 

 

 

I reverse into parking spots.
It was a requirement of a job I used to do - and I've never got out of the habit. Makes for a faster, safer exit.


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  Reply # 1972666 11-Mar-2018 11:25
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That's a easy one when driveway or exit crosses a footpath the vehicle crossing it must giveway. Generally works well in residential areas but has anyone notice this rule gets forgotten around malls or petrol stations exits. 


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  Reply # 1972680 11-Mar-2018 12:17
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Journeyman:


Ya know what irks me? When I'm reversing out of a car parking spot and some pedestrian just blithely walks straight across the back of my car with not a care in the world! WTH? 



I reverse into parking spots.
It was a requirement of a job I used to do - and I've never got out of the habit. Makes for a faster, safer exit.



Umm there are diagonal parks that if you reverse into then you get a juicy fine.

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  Reply # 1972700 11-Mar-2018 12:39
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Batman:
Sidestep:

 

Journeyman:

 

 

 

Ya know what irks me? When I'm reversing out of a car parking spot and some pedestrian just blithely walks straight across the back of my car with not a care in the world! WTH? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I reverse into parking spots.
It was a requirement of a job I used to do - and I've never got out of the habit. Makes for a faster, safer exit.

 



Umm there are diagonal parks that if you reverse into then you get a juicy fine.

 

Nope. I try to use commonsense.

Not illegally reversing into diagonal parks, just all those supermarket carparks, off street parking, people's driveways..
I've convinced my wife to reverse-park whenever she can as well.

 

We're the people who aren't reversing out blind across footpaths or into pedestrian and traffic flow at those places.
Whenever I drive into a large carpark and spot a couple facing out among the hundreds and hundreds of cars nosed in, I'm like "yeah buddy!"


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  Reply # 1972921 12-Mar-2018 07:48
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Sidestep:

 

Not illegally reversing into diagonal parks, just all those supermarket carparks, off street parking, people's driveways..
I've convinced my wife to reverse-park whenever she can as well.

 

 

I thought that the road code applies equally to a private car park as for a public road. Then parking the wrong way, which is in the road code, is just as wrong in a supermarket carpark.


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  Reply # 1972926 12-Mar-2018 08:10
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Sidestep:

 

Not illegally reversing into diagonal parks, just all those supermarket carparks, off street parking, people's driveways..
I've convinced my wife to reverse-park whenever she can as well.

 

 

I thought that the road code applies equally to a private car park as for a public road. Then parking the wrong way, which is in the road code, is just as wrong in a supermarket carpark.

 

 

I'd be very surprised if backing in - at say, Pak-n-Save - is illegal.
It's the safest way to park, you don't end up having to reverse out into the stream of people pushing trolleys, small children and cars.


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  Reply # 1972940 12-Mar-2018 08:50
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Sidestep:

 

Hammerer:

 

Sidestep:

 

Not illegally reversing into diagonal parks, just all those supermarket carparks, off street parking, people's driveways..
I've convinced my wife to reverse-park whenever she can as well.

 

 

I thought that the road code applies equally to a private car park as for a public road. Then parking the wrong way, which is in the road code, is just as wrong in a supermarket carpark.

 

 

I'd be very surprised if backing in - at say, Pak-n-Save - is illegal.
It's the safest way to park, you don't end up having to reverse out into the stream of people pushing trolleys, small children and cars.

 

 

But then you can't get your groceries in the boot...


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  Reply # 1972946 12-Mar-2018 09:01
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Sidestep:

 

I'd be very surprised if backing in - at say, Pak-n-Save - is illegal.
It's the safest way to park, you don't end up having to reverse out into the stream of people pushing trolleys, small children and cars.

 

 

The drivers I find most amusing are the ones that park front-in at the supermarket covered walkways.  Especially when it's raining, and they're standing in the rain, blocking traffic with their trolley, unloading their shopping into the car.  Whereas if you've reversed in, you can stand in the dry.  About 75% of drivers just don't get this, makes me wonder what way round they sit on the toilet.


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  Reply # 1972996 12-Mar-2018 10:31
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I would say as the car is crossing the footpath, the car should give way.

 

I believe any vehicle using (or crossing) a footpath should do so at pedestrian speed.

 

 





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  Reply # 1972998 12-Mar-2018 10:32
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shk292:

 

The drivers I find most amusing are the ones that park front-in at the supermarket covered walkways.  Especially when it's raining, and they're standing in the rain, blocking traffic with their trolley, unloading their shopping into the car.  Whereas if you've reversed in, you can stand in the dry.  About 75% of drivers just don't get this, makes me wonder what way round they sit on the toilet.

 

 

Technically illegal to angle park back in.





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  Reply # 1973140 12-Mar-2018 12:44
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Not many people know this but I've been ticketed for driving through Amber lights. That's apparently illegal too. The insurance person did not believe me.

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