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  Reply # 1973195 12-Mar-2018 13:40
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As someone who has owned both European cars, and Japanese, I think the decisions comes down to how long you want to keep the car for. If you are disposing of it within the warranty/ free servicing period, which can be between 3-5 years, then I would consider buying a euro. But expect heavy depreciation when selling. Japanese cars NZ new, tend to hold their value better from my experiences when it comes to reselling. IMO you should get more bang for your buck buying a Japanese, but it may not have the same 'exclusivity' that some car owners want, as there are so many one the road.




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  Reply # 1973196 12-Mar-2018 13:41
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Out of all the hatches my partner prefers the look of the golf. We ended up taking one home for the weekend and were thoroughly impressed with it. the driving aids and how it was able to drive itself on the motorways is really cool in terms of tech. We will probably keep it for 5ish years then trade up again money permitting.

We’re about to pull the trigger unless anyone says anything really bad to say.

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  Reply # 1973237 12-Mar-2018 14:16
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If I was buying again I would (on paper) drive the Civic-R.  It looks like a little beast.

 

 

 

 

By all accounts it is an excellent Hot Hatch...problem is - IMHO - it looks like it was designed by a 12 year old. The Go Faster styling is just abysmal - there is something to be said for restraint.

 

 

Yep, that styling is Vin Diesel on steroids!

 

Honda used to be a class leader with styling, but look like they are trying to reinvent themselves. Badly, IMHO


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  Reply # 1973241 12-Mar-2018 14:17
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RickW:

We’re about to pull the trigger unless anyone says anything really bad to say.

 

 

Over and above the really bad things that have already been said?


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  Reply # 1973282 12-Mar-2018 15:02
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As much as I like the engineering in the Hyundai and the Mazda, I don't particularly enjoy sitting in one as they are still very plasticky. Sit in the VW and it feels like quality.

 

 

 

 

I don't know about the hyundai, but the new mazda models have improved a lot on the interior finishes, over previous generations. Most are now soft plastics and leathers, and very European like. Not that I am am fan of leather seats. However I have found the tech in europeon cars can be more advanced than the japanese, but that isn't always a good thing, as sometimes that tech can break. Toyota for instance only seems to put the new tech into their cars once it had matured and is reliable. I had autowiper sensors in the 90's on a European car but it didn't work well, and it clicked each time the sensor detected something and switched. It then failed and it was going to be thousands to repair it, and it could only be done by the NZ agents repair agents. For people earning good money, this may not bother them so much. But I now always refer to the dog and lemon guide for car purchases, to see what can go wrong with a particular model, and it has always been right for me.


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  Reply # 1973304 12-Mar-2018 15:40
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They go exceptionally well...when they are going. 

 

I would love another Golf but I can't afford the maintenance. Ours seemed to be in the shop as much as it was on the road.  I also question the ethics of the company.  In that price bracket how about a Skoda Octavia RS? 

 

     

 

 





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  Reply # 1973311 12-Mar-2018 15:43
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They go exceptionally well...when they are going. 

 

I would love another Golf but I can't afford the maintenance. Ours seemed to be in the shop as much as it was on the road.  I also question the ethics of the company.  In that price bracket how about a Skoda Octavia RS? 

 

     

 

 

 

 

Skoda are also part of the VAG group (ethics-wise).


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  Reply # 1973312 12-Mar-2018 15:45
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scuwp:

 

They go exceptionally well...when they are going. 

 

I would love another Golf but I can't afford the maintenance. Ours seemed to be in the shop as much as it was on the road.  I also question the ethics of the company.  In that price bracket how about a Skoda Octavia RS? 

 

     

 

 

 

 

Skoda are also part of the VAG group (ethics-wise).

 

 

Bugger! 





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  Reply # 1973442 12-Mar-2018 18:04
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Skoda are also part of the VAG group (ethics-wise).

 

 

As is Audi, while we're on the topic





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  Reply # 1973462 12-Mar-2018 18:52
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Our family has owned a total of 6 Golfs.

 

TSi's, V5, GTi - none have needed repairs (we still have two TSi's and a GTi)

 

My Mk7 TSi gets 840kms on a 50 litre tank and the performance is unbelievable for 1.4litres.





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  Reply # 1973490 12-Mar-2018 19:19
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Our family has owned a total of 6 Golfs.

 

TSi's, V5, GTi - none have needed repairs (we still have two TSi's and a GTi)

 

My Mk7 TSi gets 840kms on a 50 litre tank and the performance is unbelievable for 1.4litres.

 

 

You have been extraordinarily lucky then, although you may have jinxed it now :-0

 

 

 

 





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  Reply # 1973597 12-Mar-2018 21:56
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RickW:

We’re about to pull the trigger unless anyone says anything really bad to say.

 

 

Over and above the really bad things that have already been said?

 

 

 

 

Were not too concerned about the whole dieselgate issue. Its in the past and I believe they have learnt there lesson / would have to be pretty stupid to do something similar again. The gearbox issues sound worrying but the dealer said that they are now using a wet clutch system that makes them very reliable. once again I'm not a car guy so kind of took that at face value.


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  Reply # 1973620 12-Mar-2018 22:27
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We just approached VW for a price on their Golf Estate, but they are ordering only on indent, no demonstrators, no nothing. Flagged it. It's almost identical to the Octavia.

 

There are plenty of cars in this segment. The GTI has a bit of a cult following I never really understood. The GTI I drove left me kind of cold and I like that kind of car. The Merc A45 is an astounding little pocket rocket. 

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 1973679 13-Mar-2018 02:15
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Don't worry too much about how it looks on the outside. That won't make a car a good purchase.

 

 

Buying a new car generally isn't a good financial decision. Buying a new German car seldom is. I know some people who kept periodically buying new cars when they were on good financial grounds. When their circumstances changed all the money they wasted on cars wasn't there as a buffer and they almost went bankrupt because of it.

 

 

In five years the market will start moving to electric vehicles with higher reliability and lower energy costs meaning the used value for an ICE Golf will depreciate more than it would otherwise. Turbo charged cars tend to use more fuel in the real world than a non turbo car with the same fuel use rating too.

 

 

Sport suspension on a weighty car can start feeling like satan's chiropractor. A relative bought one with that and distance in it is unpleasant.

 

 

Another issue is that the current Golf is actually a really wide car at 1.8m. It is hard for any wide car to remain "fun" to drive in urban areas with car parks and lanes constantly conspiring against you. All the new wide cars are keeping panel beaters very busy.

 

 

People keep saying they need to buy huge cars to fit things in but in the past people would fit the same stuff in cramped cars like the original Mitsubishi Mirage so I think it's more a perception or justification than a necessity in most cases.

 

 

My suggestion would be to look at getting a used Nissan Note e-Power imported from the Japanese auction system. A recent model, modest mileage car should set you back $16,500 all up. It is very fuel efficient, quick and has a more manageable width.

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  Reply # 1973703 13-Mar-2018 07:31
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RickW:

 

Were not too concerned about the whole dieselgate issue. Its in the past and I believe they have learnt there lesson / would have to be pretty stupid to do something similar again. 

 

 

And VW quickly followed up Dieselgate with Monkeygate, thus adding gross animal cruelty to purposely deceiving customers. 


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