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#2003120 26-Apr-2018 20:43

Geektastic: The purpose of speed traps is to encourage safer driving. Ergo, having a detector remind you you're speeding or that there is a fixed camera is likely to cause you to slow down if you were in need of doing so. Road safety aim achieved.

Ideally speed cameras and policemen would never catch anyone because we'd all be sensible enough and skilled enough not to speed.

Allowing people to have tools that help moderate their behaviour is IMV sensible.

I don't disagree, but every car is equipped with a 'tool'...it's called a speedometer. Now if there was only an invention that allowed the driver to alert others when they were intending to make a turn, that would be very helpful.

Lazy is such an ugly word, I prefer to call it selective participation

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#2003138 26-Apr-2018 21:04

scuwp:

[snip] Now if there was only an invention that allowed the driver to alert others when they were intending to make a turn, that would be very helpful.

Don't be suggesting things like that - everyone will want one!

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#2003159 26-Apr-2018 22:23

RunningMan:
scuwp:

[snip] Now if there was only an invention that allowed the driver to alert others when they were intending to make a turn, that would be very helpful.

Don't be suggesting things like that - everyone will want one!

I've seen a very close invention, it's called an indicator. You activate this after you have turned or made an aggressive lane change to inform others of the move you have just made.

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#2003164 26-Apr-2018 22:40

coffeebaron:
RunningMan:
scuwp:

[snip] Now if there was only an invention that allowed the driver to alert others when they were intending to make a turn, that would be very helpful.

Don't be suggesting things like that - everyone will want one!

I've seen a very close invention, it's called an indicator. You activate this after you have turned or made an aggressive lane change to inform others of the move you have just made.

Nah, where I live they’re used to indicate which direction you are not going to take at a roundabout.

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#2003183 27-Apr-2018 07:01

jonathan18:
coffeebaron:
RunningMan:
scuwp:

[snip] Now if there was only an invention that allowed the driver to alert others when they were intending to make a turn, that would be very helpful.

Don't be suggesting things like that - everyone will want one!

I've seen a very close invention, it's called an indicator. You activate this after you have turned or made an aggressive lane change to inform others of the move you have just made.

Nah, where I live they’re used to indicate which direction you are not going to take at a roundabout.

Nah, it's used to instruct others to prevent you from making a lane change in the indicated direction.

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#2003331 27-Apr-2018 10:03

Nah, it's use to indicate the direction that you turned at the last intersection.

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#2003333 27-Apr-2018 10:05

When I was driving up in the Far North I worked out that its called an indicator because it indicates that you ain't from around here.

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#2003892 28-Apr-2018 08:23

scuwp:
Geektastic: The purpose of speed traps is to encourage safer driving. Ergo, having a detector remind you you're speeding or that there is a fixed camera is likely to cause you to slow down if you were in need of doing so. Road safety aim achieved.

Ideally speed cameras and policemen would never catch anyone because we'd all be sensible enough and skilled enough not to speed.

Allowing people to have tools that help moderate their behaviour is IMV sensible.

I don't disagree, but every car is equipped with a 'tool'...it's called a speedometer. Now if there was only an invention that allowed the driver to alert others when they were intending to make a turn, that would be very helpful.

I agree. However more tools = better in this case.

For example, my radar detector says "Overspeed" in a pleasant tone at 101 kmh.

It's useful as an extra reminder.

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#2003916 28-Apr-2018 09:15

LAYING BLAME ANDJUSTIFICATION

I once did one of those self awareness courses. Frequently it was emphasised that it was necessary to move forward rather than look backward. In other words when we are doing wrong and not making progress we often resort to laying the blame on something or someone else or justifying why we did it wrong. All this does is stop us from progressing.

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#2004831 30-Apr-2018 08:12

scuwp:

[snip] Now if there was only an invention that allowed the driver to alert others when they were intending to make a turn, that would be very helpful.

I found this weird lever and button that enables a party mode on my BMW! It makes these 6 orange lights flash or either side if you use the lever!

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#2004832 30-Apr-2018 08:16

Coil:

scuwp:

[snip] Now if there was only an invention that allowed the driver to alert others when they were intending to make a turn, that would be very helpful.

I found this weird lever and button that enables a party mode on my BMW! It makes these 6 orange lights flash or either side if you use the lever!

Wow, those Bimmers have everything.

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#2004835 30-Apr-2018 08:25

kryptonjohn:

Coil:

scuwp:

[snip] Now if there was only an invention that allowed the driver to alert others when they were intending to make a turn, that would be very helpful.

I found this weird lever and button that enables a party mode on my BMW! It makes these 6 orange lights flash or either side if you use the lever!

Wow, those Bimmers have everything.

Also if you pull the party mode lever towards yourself, you trigger the "Get the F out of my way before I ram you off the road" lights.
There is also this other one with a D but a fuzzy line either side and I called it the "get off my arse or I'll burn your retinas out" button.

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#2004912 30-Apr-2018 10:24

Coil:

scuwp:

[snip] Now if there was only an invention that allowed the driver to alert others when they were intending to make a turn, that would be very helpful.

I found this weird lever and button that enables a party mode on my BMW! It makes these 6 orange lights flash or either side if you use the lever!

That button that makes all the orange lights flash is actually the magic lights - when this is activated, your car can magically park anywhere. You can park in the middle of the road, on dashed orange lines, in no parking zones, on the footpath you can even park like @nate

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#2005316 30-Apr-2018 16:25

Coil:

I found this weird lever and button that enables a party mode on my BMW! It makes these 6 orange lights flash or either side if you use the lever!

Does it play '70s disco music as well?

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#2010382 9-May-2018 01:08

Fred99:

Journeyman:

Amazing how this thread degenerated into judgmentalism.

I'm not even slightly surprised...

It's a divisive issue - speeding is a major contributory cause of road deaths but according to popular opinion "it's just revenue gathering".

Speed as a contributing factor is a crash for statistical purposes isn't only cited when the driver is exceeding the applicable posted speed limit. It's also any time that speed is considered too fast for the conditions. Even then, it's only cited in 30% of fatal or 20% of serious injury crashes. But you know what's a factor in nearly every multi-vehicle crash? One of the vehicles being on part of the roadway they shouldn't have been based on the situation.

Incompetence behind the wheel is the greatest factor by far. But they simply don't have a metric for that because, despite all evidence to the contrary that any actually competent driver will see on a daily basis, it's assumed that because you have a current driver's licence you're competent.

Until TPTB start focusing on that, the real problem, nothing will change.

https://transport.govt.nz/resources/road-safety-resources/crashfacts/speed/

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