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  Reply # 2060943 23-Jul-2018 12:02
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Batman: Santa Fe, Sorento. The 2.2 diesels are mighty beasts. Enough power to overtake on hills. Enough torque to launch your family elephant into orbit. Not sure about price though. And despite their might, I've never actually owned a diesel so I'm not sure of real life ownership experience.

 

 

 

I am not really keen on getting a diesel.

 

We did have a look at them, but I think they are outside of our budget




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  Reply # 2060944 23-Jul-2018 12:03
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shk292:

 

Ipsum?  Great as a daily driver, huge boot and extra seats OK for large kids / small adults.

 

We have a tow-bar on ours for boats (relatively light ones) etc and it tows OK but that's probably less than 750kg

 

 

 

 

The Ipsums we looked at were a little small, I am not sure if they have newer than 2007 models

 

Will have a look


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  Reply # 2060989 23-Jul-2018 13:27
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crocodile:

MikeAqua:


We had  Emina (yes that really is a car name laughing). It's a Previa derivative - sold on the japanese market.


All while drive and towed around 800kg nicely.


Chucked some roof tracks & bars (Rhino) and roof box on the top and used that for all the bulky, but light stuff - sleeping bags, pillows etc.


Great car, a little bit thristy.  But only a 6 seater.


A regular Previa is wider bodied and seats 7- but then you lose the AWD.


 



 


Cheers Mike - I will include that in my list



My Estima version of the Previa is 4wd, has 8 proper seats, enough space for 6 large suitcases with all seats used, and >200kW.

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  Reply # 2061003 23-Jul-2018 13:56
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crocodile:

 

shk292:

 

Ipsum?  Great as a daily driver, huge boot and extra seats OK for large kids / small adults.

 

We have a tow-bar on ours for boats (relatively light ones) etc and it tows OK but that's probably less than 750kg

 

 

 

 

The Ipsums we looked at were a little small, I am not sure if they have newer than 2007 models

 

Will have a look

 

 

2007 is definitely the latest model - ours is 2010 and I think that's the last year they were made.  They are a bit smaller than the Odyssey or Mazda MPV, which was a plus for us but most of the time it's used as a four seater plus large boot for dog and luggage




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  Reply # 2061004 23-Jul-2018 13:56
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Batman:
crocodile:

 

MikeAqua:

 

 

 

We had  Emina (yes that really is a car name laughing). It's a Previa derivative - sold on the japanese market.

 

 

 

All while drive and towed around 800kg nicely.

 

 

 

Chucked some roof tracks & bars (Rhino) and roof box on the top and used that for all the bulky, but light stuff - sleeping bags, pillows etc.

 

 

 

Great car, a little bit thristy.  But only a 6 seater.

 

 

 

A regular Previa is wider bodied and seats 7- but then you lose the AWD.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cheers Mike - I will include that in my list

 



My Estima version of the Previa is 4wd, has 8 proper seats, enough space for 6 large suitcases with all seats used, and >200kW.

 

 

 

 

 

Cheers Batman


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  Reply # 2061031 23-Jul-2018 14:51
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We went through this recently and went with an Outlander - albeit a 2018 with the 2.4 engine and 4wd as the second hand prices were high relative to new ones.

The 2012 and above model outlanders have far superior rear seats which are much easier to fold up and down compared to the older models. The suspension in 2012+ also rides better and they are lighter.

Mildly disappointed in fuel economy and the amount of “storage” for bits and bobs. And the location of the USB port given it has CarPlay is a bit dumb 😜

It tows OK so far but I haven’t really needed to push it yet.



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  Reply # 2061035 23-Jul-2018 14:54
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htbrst: We went through this recently and went with an Outlander - albeit a 2018 with the 2.4 engine and 4wd as the second hand prices were high relative to new ones.

The 2012 and above model outlanders have far superior rear seats which are much easier to fold up and down compared to the older models. The suspension in 2012+ also rides better and they are lighter.

Mildly disappointed in fuel economy and the amount of “storage” for bits and bobs. And the location of the USB port given it has CarPlay is a bit dumb 😜

It tows OK so far but I haven’t really needed to push it yet.

 

 

 

Cheers - does your have the CVT transmission? Petrol or diesel?

 

What are you towing?


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  Reply # 2061045 23-Jul-2018 14:56
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My parents have a 4wd Outlander - about 3 years old now. No issues with towing at all. I couldn't tell you if it was CVT or just regular Auto. I have towed a boat all the way up the Coromandel with it, no issues. 7 Seats.




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  Reply # 2061048 23-Jul-2018 15:02
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trig42:

 

My parents have a 4wd Outlander - about 3 years old now. No issues with towing at all. I couldn't tell you if it was CVT or just regular Auto. I have towed a boat all the way up the Coromandel with it, no issues. 7 Seats.

 

 


Cheers mate


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  Reply # 2061059 23-Jul-2018 15:24
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Have a look at Mazda Premacy. Slightly smaller than MPV



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  Reply # 2061074 23-Jul-2018 15:28
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1eStar: Have a look at Mazda Premacy. Slightly smaller than MPV

 

 

 

We did and it was too small. Prefer the size of the MPV


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  Reply # 2061081 23-Jul-2018 15:36
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crocodile:

 

Cheers - does your have the CVT transmission? Petrol or diesel? hat are you towing?

 

 

It's a 2.4 Petrol 4WD with a CVT. Hopefully they have been building them long enough now to have worked out any vulnerabilities. New also had a 5/10 year warranty vs second hand where they only transfer the balance of "up-to-three years" for the second owner.

 

Mine will only occasionally tow sorry, so I've only towed unbraked trailers so far which have a max of 750kg thus far. Braked I think it only tows up to 1750 for the petrol and slightly higher for the diesel. Diesels are quite rare though?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 




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  Reply # 2061082 23-Jul-2018 15:38
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htbrst:

 

crocodile:

 

Cheers - does your have the CVT transmission? Petrol or diesel? hat are you towing?

 

 

It's a 2.4 Petrol 4WD with a CVT. Hopefully they have been building them long enough now to have worked out any vulnerabilities. New also had a 5/10 year warranty vs second hand where they only transfer the balance of "up-to-three years" for the second owner.

 

Mine will only occasionally tow sorry, so I've only towed unbraked trailers so far which have a max of 750kg thus far. Braked I think it only tows up to 1750 for the petrol and slightly higher for the diesel. Diesels are quite rare though?

 

Cheers, that helps a lot. My trailer is around 750kg unbraked

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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  Reply # 2061086 23-Jul-2018 15:48
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I'm always wary about CVTs because of how they are supposed to work.

It's a couple of belts pulling/spinning a cone. How does a belt spin a cone when tremendous forces are at play? By having some hooks and ridges and a huge clamping force applied via special fluids.

I'm going to guess that it may tow fine now, but it won't for very long.

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  Reply # 2061098 23-Jul-2018 16:16
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Why not have a look at the Kia’s such as the Sportage. Real bang for your buck and available in petrol and non CVT

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